. That frustum is rather like a
beach with big waves where the rip tide is a powerful vector. I think Occam
would approve.
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 1:53 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:EM Drive powered by entangled photons
BTW – Ron
BTW – Ron Clark reminds me of the theory of inertia and Unruh radiation which
appeared a few months ago, and fits into a broader possibility. Actually there
are two varieties as well as the “flyby anomaly”. Either of them opens up the
scenario where several tiny asymmetrical forces and effects
ether is Boscovichian particles known a long time; as part of ignored/forgotten
history when attention of physics community diverted onto Einstein
will be in my talk based on abstract
http://www.noeticadvancedstudies.us/AndertonX.pdf
Boscovich theory 1758
Vigier conferenceVigier 9
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From: Bob Higgins
* According to Don Hotson… the ether is composed of epos (shrunken,
neutral, electron-positron orbital pairs) that can be polarized. This provides
the displaceable element needed in Maxwell's equations…
This could be interpreted as consistent with the proposition that
The momentum of Higgin’s electron/positron pair would be large by comparison!
From: Frank Znidarsic [mailto:fznidar...@aol.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 9:13 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:EM Drive powered by entangled photons
The momentum of an emitted photon is very
The momentum of an emitted photon is very small
Momentum = energy / c
Frank Znidarsic
That’s a cool concept
From: Bob Higgins [mailto:rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 7:15 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:EM Drive powered by entangled photons
I previously observed the coincidental similarity between the difference in
photonic thrust
I previously observed the coincidental similarity between the difference in
photonic thrust and Shawyer thrust and the Q of the cavity - let me propose
how a connection might exist.
According to Don Hotson (deceased), the ether is composed of epos
(shrunken, neutral, electron-positron orbital
From: Eric Walker
Bob Higgins wrote:
But, photonic leakage still doesn't explain the measured Shawyer EM drive
thrust.
If this is true, then I like the anisotropic neutrino explanation that has been
floated here sometime back. Presumably the neutrinos would come from electron
capture (or
Subject: Re: [Vo]:EM Drive powered by entangled photons
As I mentioned in my previous post, if you want to see how the photons can leak
out, just have a look at the Fabry-Perot etalon. At resonance it is a high Q
filter, even though the boundaries are highly reflecting.
But, photonic leakage still
On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Bob Higgins
wrote:
But, photonic leakage still doesn't explain the measured Shawyer EM drive
> thrust.
>
If this is true, then I like the anisotropic neutrino explanation that has
been floated here sometime back. Presumably the
From: Bob Higgins
As I mentioned in my previous post, if you want to see how the photons can leak
out, just have a look at the Fabry-Perot etalon. At resonance it is a high Q
filter, even though the boundaries are highly reflecting…. But, photonic
leakage still doesn't explain the measured
No Jones, I was proposing that IF photons for make their way through a
barrier due to a cancelled waveform, then maybe protons as per your typo,
or other particles could also do so if their quantum wave functions
cancelled, and just MAYBE this is related to quantum tunneling.
And even then I'm
From: John Berry
Well, particles (electrons, protons, atoms, bucky balls, ignored cats) fired at
a screen still produce an interference... So maybe protons could tunnel through
a barrier if there is a wave from another proton that interferes?
John,
Are you suggesting that the cone be filled
As I mentioned in my previous post, if you want to see how the photons can
leak out, just have a look at the Fabry-Perot etalon. At resonance it is a
high Q filter, even though the boundaries are highly reflecting.
But, photonic leakage still doesn't explain the measured Shawyer EM drive
thrust.
Well, particles (electrons, protons, atoms, bucky balls, ignored cats)
fired at a screen still produce an interference...
So maybe protons could tunnel through a barrier if there is a wave from
another proton that interferes?
Could this be how tunneling works?
On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 2:01 AM,
Oops… obviously, that should read “photon” instead of “proton”:
If photons [not protons] can become paired and out-of-phase due to some kind of
cavity resonance effect, such that one result of the pairing is that they can
escape metal confinement, then almost every citizen is at risk from
From: Russ George
OK Dr. Photon just how do we like this news on the EM Drive and the paired out
of phase photons?
http://www.physics-astronomy.com/2016/06/new-paper-claims-that-em-drive-doesnt.html#.V2LfsvkrKVM
This reminds me of a question I have had.
Imaging we have 2 lasers putting out 2 coherent light beams along the same
path, one frequency is very slightly higher than the other.
Constrictive/destructive interference between the 2 beams mean that along
the path at time they double in strength, but
In reply to Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Thu, 16 Jun 2016 13:44:29 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
>The author says:
>
>"photons must become paired up in order to discharge the fuel
>cavity, so that the two photons in those pairs are essentially out
>of phase, which means they entirely cancel
The idea that it's leaking fits well with the observation that the
thrust involved is "incredibly small".
When you're chasing effects at the margin of what you can detect,
totally marginal errors can totally mess up the results.
On 06/16/2016 01:36 PM, Bob Higgins wrote:
I don't quite
The author says:
"photons must become paired up in order to discharge the fuel
cavity, so that the two photons in those pairs are essentially out
of phase, which means they entirely cancel each other out and have
no net electromagnetic field"
If it shoots out a pair of /out of
I don't quite understand why people think photons don't leak out of the
Shawyer apparatus. If you look at a Fabry-Perot resonator - two parallel
mirrors (an etalon). The reflectivity for each of the mirrors can be
99.999%, and the etalon Q will be quite high, but at the resonance, light
will
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