RE: [Vo]:EVOs, Hutchison, and ancient megalithic tech
Robin - If there was a significant internal charge cloud within a brick, and the charges rode along with the motions of the surrounding gyrating molecules, there should be a detectable magnetic field, right? Something to look for in these experiments. -Original Message- From: Robin Sent: Friday, July 14, 2023 9:55 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:EVOs, Hutchison, and ancient megalithic tech In reply to Andrew Meulenberg's message of Fri, 14 Jul 2023 14:17:55 -0500: Hi, Years ago, I read in a magazine that elliptical motion of atoms resulted in a force. It occurred to me that two synchronized sound sources arranged such that the direction of the sound from each was perpendicular to the other, and with a solid cube placed where the two beams crossed, could generate elliptical motion in the atoms of the solid, if the amplitude of the sound waves was different for each sound source. >When the vertical component of the centrifugal force of the rotating >eccentric load exceeds the weight of the brick, the brick will move off >the ground. Non-vertical components will drive the brick horizontally >every time the net force exceeds the weight of the brick. Two small >synchronous motors, if properly aligned and fixed to a 1 ton rigid >load, could allow it to be moved by another small motor. No wheels are required! > >US Patent office refused a patent on this concept, despite seeing an >operating system with a small example. [snip] Buy electric cars and recharge them from solar panels on your roof.
Re: [Vo]:EVOs, Hutchison, and ancient megalithic tech
Interference between synchronous laser beams provides the basis for an optical lattice. The eccentric weights gives this on a macroscale. On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 2:58 PM Robin wrote: > >Hi, > > PS - the dimensions of the solid should be such that it is resonant for > the frequency of the sound. > Buy electric cars and recharge them from solar panels on your roof. > >
Re: [Vo]:EVOs, Hutchison, and ancient megalithic tech
>Hi, PS - the dimensions of the solid should be such that it is resonant for the frequency of the sound. Buy electric cars and recharge them from solar panels on your roof.
Re: [Vo]:EVOs, Hutchison, and ancient megalithic tech
In reply to Andrew Meulenberg's message of Fri, 14 Jul 2023 14:17:55 -0500: Hi, Years ago, I read in a magazine that elliptical motion of atoms resulted in a force. It occurred to me that two synchronized sound sources arranged such that the direction of the sound from each was perpendicular to the other, and with a solid cube placed where the two beams crossed, could generate elliptical motion in the atoms of the solid, if the amplitude of the sound waves was different for each sound source. >When the vertical component of the centrifugal force of the rotating >eccentric load exceeds the weight of the brick, the brick will move off the >ground. Non-vertical components will drive the brick horizontally every >time the net force exceeds the weight of the brick. Two small synchronous >motors, if properly aligned and fixed to a 1 ton rigid load, could allow it >to be moved by another small motor. No wheels are required! > >US Patent office refused a patent on this concept, despite seeing an >operating system with a small example. [snip] Buy electric cars and recharge them from solar panels on your roof.
Re: [Vo]:EVOs, Hutchison, and ancient megalithic tech
When the vertical component of the centrifugal force of the rotating eccentric load exceeds the weight of the brick, the brick will move off the ground. Non-vertical components will drive the brick horizontally every time the net force exceeds the weight of the brick. Two small synchronous motors, if properly aligned and fixed to a 1 ton rigid load, could allow it to be moved by another small motor. No wheels are required! US Patent office refused a patent on this concept, despite seeing an operating system with a small example. On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 2:11 PM MSF wrote: > This is one of my favorite subjects. Not Hutchison, but speculation about > how the ancients were able to cut and transport those huge blocks of stone. > It might be that electrical effects are involved, but I'm not sure that's > necessary. Hutchison effects might be real, but those videos he made had > some rather obvious primitive video fakery. At least that's my opinion. > > Here's an experiment I did longer ago than I care to remember. It's > simplicity itself. I epoxied a small DC motor to the top of a brick and > placed it in a sandbox. The motor had an eccentric weight attached to the > shaft. Connected to the motor was a variable DC power supply. Obviously, > the frequency of vibration could be controlled by varying the current to > the motor. As the RPM of the motor increased to a certain level, the brick > began to move. Depending upon small adjustments of the current, the brick > might rotate in one direction or the other or shift slightly. When > stabilized, the brick could be moved with the touch of a finger. > > You could see light under the brick through the oscillating sand. This > doesn't exactly constitute levitation, but you could see how it could be > interpreted that way. There are so many ways of creating sonic frequencies, > it's hard to say how ancient peoples did it. > > There you have it. I encourage anyone reading this to replicate my little > experiment and tell us what happened.
RE: [Vo]:EVOs, Hutchison, and ancient megalithic tech
Robin - Lol, probably. I think it's likely that some works, in particular I like the interior limestone blocks at the pyramids for this, could easily have been 'geopolymer'. Most others though, not so much. Natural stone in most cases is pretty obvious. So are quarry marks and cutting evidence. Peru has some really obvious quarry locations close to the construction sites, some with blocks abandoned in apparent transit from the quarry. But no rock crushers, vats, kilns, etc. that I know of. - Rick -Original Message- From: Robin Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2023 4:10 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:EVOs, Hutchison, and ancient megalithic tech In reply to 's message of Wed, 12 Jul 2023 15:59:49 -1000: Hi, I wonder if people thousands of years from now will wonder how we managed to carve large concrete structures? [snip] Buy electric cars and recharge them from solar panels on your roof.
Re: [Vo]:EVOs, Hutchison, and ancient megalithic tech
In reply to 's message of Wed, 12 Jul 2023 15:59:49 -1000: Hi, I wonder if people thousands of years from now will wonder how we managed to carve large concrete structures? [snip] Buy electric cars and recharge them from solar panels on your roof.
RE: [Vo]:EVOs, Hutchison, and ancient megalithic tech
tation and/or room temperature superconduction? Anyone see the vids of compass reactions near megalithic block cuts? Similar? Is that evidence of powerful electric or magnetic processes having been applied to the stones? - Rick From: MSF Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2023 9:11 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:EVOs, Hutchison, and ancient megalithic tech This is one of my favorite subjects. Not Hutchison, but speculation about how the ancients were able to cut and transport those huge blocks of stone. It might be that electrical effects are involved, but I'm not sure that's necessary. Hutchison effects might be real, but those videos he made had some rather obvious primitive video fakery. At least that's my opinion. Here's an experiment I did longer ago than I care to remember. It's simplicity itself. I epoxied a small DC motor to the top of a brick and placed it in a sandbox. The motor had an eccentric weight attached to the shaft. Connected to the motor was a variable DC power supply. Obviously, the frequency of vibration could be controlled by varying the current to the motor. As the RPM of the motor increased to a certain level, the brick began to move. Depending upon small adjustments of the current, the brick might rotate in one direction or the other or shift slightly. When stabilized, the brick could be moved with the touch of a finger. You could see light under the brick through the oscillating sand. This doesn't exactly constitute levitation, but you could see how it could be interpreted that way. There are so many ways of creating sonic frequencies, it's hard to say how ancient peoples did it. There you have it. I encourage anyone reading this to replicate my little experiment and tell us what happened.
Re: [Vo]:EVOs, Hutchison, and ancient megalithic tech
MSF wrote: This is one of my favorite subjects. Not Hutchison, but speculation about > how the ancients were able to cut and transport those huge blocks of stone. Conventional techniques, I believe. Long ago I saw a video with a large group of enthusiasts in England. They had a gigantic concrete block the size of a stonehenge stone. They hauled it a good distance using cut logs as rollers. Then they dug a hole and erected it. I don't recall if they put another stone across the top. I don't think so. That would have cost a lot. But they demonstrated various techniques that would have accomplished that. They used wood, ropes, and other manual equipment. They wanted to raise a large mound of dirt at one point, but safety standards forbid that, so they used modern scaffolding in the shape of a dirt mound. They had to experiment with various ways to use human power, and wooden levers, and they had to consult with engineers to keep from crushing someone by accident. So it was not a pure recreation of 5,000 year old techniques. But it demonstrated how those techniques might have worked. I do not know how people cut stones 5,000 years ago, but they did in England, Central America and elsewhere.
Re: [Vo]:EVOs, Hutchison, and ancient megalithic tech
This is one of my favorite subjects. Not Hutchison, but speculation about how the ancients were able to cut and transport those huge blocks of stone. It might be that electrical effects are involved, but I'm not sure that's necessary. Hutchison effects might be real, but those videos he made had some rather obvious primitive video fakery. At least that's my opinion. Here's an experiment I did longer ago than I care to remember. It's simplicity itself. I epoxied a small DC motor to the top of a brick and placed it in a sandbox. The motor had an eccentric weight attached to the shaft. Connected to the motor was a variable DC power supply. Obviously, the frequency of vibration could be controlled by varying the current to the motor. As the RPM of the motor increased to a certain level, the brick began to move. Depending upon small adjustments of the current, the brick might rotate in one direction or the other or shift slightly. When stabilized, the brick could be moved with the touch of a finger. You could see light under the brick through the oscillating sand. This doesn't exactly constitute levitation, but you could see how it could be interpreted that way. There are so many ways of creating sonic frequencies, it's hard to say how ancient peoples did it. There you have it. I encourage anyone reading this to replicate my little experiment and tell us what happened.
RE: [Vo]:EVOs, Hutchison, and ancient megalithic tech
Hi Terry – Hail Eris my dude! Glad we both made it through the Great Grunge. Looking forward to hearing your ideas and comments. Yes, I’m aware of that Tibetan story. It seems to coincide with two distinct phases of the acoustic technique where the purpose of the sound is to manipulate and use bulk internal charge. #One is to accumulate it, #Two is to activate it. #One tends to be more gentle (primary tones in sine waves) and long in duration, drawing in charges slowly and letting them rest within the dielectric. A larger percent of the charge population may have their fields more contained in the dielectric body due to resting in low energy pockets close to the molecular structures, so the fields are not so visible outside it. Accumulated. #Two tends to be more like white noise random phonons with short rise times, where the jostled charges have a larger population no longer at rest and with localized positions averaging a little further away from the molecular structure within the dielectric, exposing more of their collective fields (now in motion) outside the dielectric body. Activated. Bible story of Jericho: #One, they blew trumpets for some days to collect charge. #Two, a loud shout to activate what they gathered to dislodge the stones and collapse the wall. Modern example of #Two: Pulsed Electro-Acoustics (PEA) for analyzing excess charge clouds within materials, usually dielectric insulation. Initially e-fields can’t be characterized well outside the material with electrostatic detectors. A “shout” from a laser taps the surface creating a shockwave, so phonons ping the molecular structures inside. Resulting charge movements are registered as EM on coil detector arrays where a computer can reveal and map the areas of charge accumulation. Like I said, I’m doing lots of speculating these days. No Macnut trees here either. Turmeric, squash, peppers, tomatoes, papayas, lettuce, bok choy. * RIck
Re: [Vo]:EVOs, Hutchison, and ancient megalithic tech
I saw a good summary on related Kozyrev mirrors. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9hwXoCrEUs In my experiments any spiral where the number of turns is in the form of n minus a fraction of n, so 2 minus 1/2 = 1.5 turns The next is 3 minus a 3rd (2.666 turns) and so on produces a strong effect. On Tue, 11 Jul 2023 at 14:38, Terry Blanton wrote: > > Rick, my body surfing friend. Good to hear from you. > > You know, I never did plant those macadamia seeds. I have them still. > > I look forward to examining your supposition when I have the time. > > Have you read that Tibetan monks can lift heavy stones with sound? > > I will try to look at this tomorrow. > > On Mon, Jul 10, 2023, 9:49 PM wrote: >> >> EVOs, HUTCHISON, AND ANCIENT MEGALITHIC TECH >> >> >> >> Hi all, long time. Sorry about the length of this, hope some of you will >> take a moment to look through it. Warning: contains significant speculation >> and some video links, (no affiliation to links). >> >> >> >> For some time I've been fascinated by anomalous ancient stone working >> techniques. The spread of information on the subject over the last couple of >> decades due to the internet and video, TV like Ancient Mysteries, Graham >> Hancock etc., has exposed the public to the fact and depth of these >> mysteries despite the ever-present overburden of academic resistance, grift, >> and woo. >> >> >> >> There's been lots of theories over the years of sound, geopolymers, aliens, >> etc., and more lately, some sort of electromagnetic effect. Conditions in >> and around rock crystals are often affected by both EM and sound, perhaps >> not always through just piezoelectricity. Browns gas has also been proposed >> as a cutting technique since the melted surface containing transmutations >> has been found in some samples of the vitrified cut surfaces from various >> ruins which are similar to BG-burned samples of the same material. >> >> >> >> Although these proposed theories do lean towards explanations for cut and >> finish, the big elephant in the room is still on the loose: how did they >> *raise* and *transport* these damn things? Another slightly smaller elephant >> is the almost capricious manner with which numerous large and repeated cuts >> were made both at quarries and in removed material - it was easy for them. >> That last one often doesn't become so apparent until you've been looking at >> this for a while and can see the larger context of the total extent and >> volume of this work globally, as well as within individual sites. >> >> >> >> I've had some ideas about this, and in the last few years I've actually "cut >> metal" and casually tried something. I got weak but interesting results, and >> I'd like to refine the experiment and keep careful records before discussing >> particulars publicly, but to the point of this post: >> >> >> >> There's a video out on YouTube now under the "Versadoco" account: >> >> >> >> https://youtu.be/884rjnOSnbI >> >> >> >> Some ideas that I think are new to the megalith mysteries are presented >> there which might seem familiar to Vortexians - Ken Shoulders' EVOs, and the >> softening, melting, and occasionally levitation effects described by John >> Hutchison. >> >> >> >> The best explanation is the one that addresses the unknown causes for *all* >> the features of a phenomenon, and for the moment, this one looks pretty >> interesting to me. I noticed long ago how dried pottery clay in rehydration >> will mimic features of some Hutchison effect samples where they soften, >> split and crumble distinctively before melting. In clay it's water molecules >> soaking in between the grains and ionically defeating the small bonds >> between them. In Hutchison's materials, is it EVOs or excess free charge >> content accumulated around the grains? In the stone artifacts, that could >> explain effects attributed by some to Brown gas since accumulated charge or >> EVOs are also present. >> >> >> >> Still missing is the practical method for EVO/charge generation the >> mysterious masons actually used, which if known, should be easily duplicable >> since there is an implied low-tech nature to this. The video fumbles and >> punts on that crucial topic, IMO. But at least there's no need for aliens or >> complex high tech. >> >> >> >> I speculate that powerful (i.e. LOUD and long duration) acoustics were used >> for charge generation (or more likely acquisition from the environment), and >> manipulation and concentration through cymatics, hopefully without JH's >> personal presence required as some have suggested. With large stones >> containing a gigantic internal space charge you might be able to cut and >> shape them with copper tools using Electrical Discharge Machining (EDM)*, >> then raise and transport and them using the enormous electric fields from >> all that trapped charge coupling (against) the ground plane. Resonate, chop, >> float, stack, discharge. If true,
Re: [Vo]:EVOs, Hutchison, and ancient megalithic tech
Rick, my body surfing friend. Good to hear from you. You know, I never did plant those macadamia seeds. I have them still. I look forward to examining your supposition when I have the time. Have you read that Tibetan monks can lift heavy stones with sound? I will try to look at this tomorrow. On Mon, Jul 10, 2023, 9:49 PM wrote: > EVOs, HUTCHISON, AND ANCIENT MEGALITHIC TECH > > > > Hi all, long time. Sorry about the length of this, hope some of you will > take a moment to look through it. Warning: contains significant speculation > and some video links, (no affiliation to links). > > > > For some time I've been fascinated by anomalous ancient stone working > techniques. The spread of information on the subject over the last couple > of decades due to the internet and video, TV like Ancient Mysteries, Graham > Hancock etc., has exposed the public to the fact and depth of these > mysteries despite the ever-present overburden of academic resistance, > grift, and woo. > > > > There's been lots of theories over the years of sound, geopolymers, > aliens, etc., and more lately, some sort of electromagnetic effect. > Conditions in and around rock crystals are often affected by both EM and > sound, perhaps not always through just piezoelectricity. Browns gas has > also been proposed as a cutting technique since the melted surface > containing transmutations has been found in some samples of the vitrified > cut surfaces from various ruins which are similar to BG-burned samples of > the same material. > > > > Although these proposed theories do lean towards explanations for cut and > finish, the big elephant in the room is still on the loose: how did they > *raise* and *transport* these damn things? Another slightly smaller > elephant is the almost capricious manner with which numerous large and > repeated cuts were made both at quarries and in removed material - it was > easy for them. That last one often doesn't become so apparent until you've > been looking at this for a while and can see the larger context of the > total extent and volume of this work globally, as well as within individual > sites. > > > > I've had some ideas about this, and in the last few years I've actually > "cut metal" and casually tried something. I got weak but interesting > results, and I'd like to refine the experiment and keep careful records > before discussing particulars publicly, but to the point of this post: > > > > There's a video out on YouTube now under the "Versadoco" account: > > > > https://youtu.be/884rjnOSnbI > > > > Some ideas that I think are new to the megalith mysteries are presented > there which might seem familiar to Vortexians - Ken Shoulders' EVOs, and > the softening, melting, and occasionally levitation effects described by > John Hutchison. > > > > The best explanation is the one that addresses the unknown causes for > *all* the features of a phenomenon, and for the moment, this one looks > pretty interesting to me. I noticed long ago how dried pottery clay in > rehydration will mimic features of some Hutchison effect samples where they > soften, split and crumble distinctively before melting. In clay it's water > molecules soaking in between the grains and ionically defeating the small > bonds between them. In Hutchison's materials, is it EVOs or excess free > charge content accumulated around the grains? In the stone artifacts, that > could explain effects attributed by some to Brown gas since accumulated > charge or EVOs are also present. > > > > Still missing is the practical method for EVO/charge generation the > mysterious masons actually used, which if known, should be easily > duplicable since there is an implied low-tech nature to this. The video > fumbles and punts on that crucial topic, IMO. But at least there's no need > for aliens or complex high tech. > > > > I speculate that powerful (i.e. LOUD and long duration) acoustics were > used for charge generation (or more likely acquisition from the > environment), and manipulation and concentration through cymatics, > hopefully without JH's personal presence required as some have suggested. > With large stones containing a gigantic internal space charge you might be > able to cut and shape them with copper tools using Electrical Discharge > Machining (EDM)*, then raise and transport and them using the enormous > electric fields from all that trapped charge coupling (against) the ground > plane. Resonate, chop, float, stack, discharge. If true, big implications > for various modern industries, obviously. > > *Here's a link to a practical modern example of using EDM on a pre-charged > dielectric instead of the usual current-connected metal target material. > Internal charging is via linear accelerator (kinetic not acoustic), but a > simple manual bulk EDM-style technique is shown. Scroll down to the video: > https://www.etsy.com/shop/Criticalelectron?ref=mini_mfts_name_id=1464572835 > > > > > > Thoughts? > > > > - Rick > > >
