RE: [Vo]:Re: LENR is occurring in SAFIRE

2018-03-16 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com 
QUESTIONS:

  1.  What are the anode and cathode made of?  I bet the anode is a Ni alloy.
  2.  What are the ions in the plasma  double layer—particularly the positive 
ions?
  3.  What is the photo spectrum of the positive ion zones of the double layers?
  4.  What happens if D is substituted for the H in the pressurized anode?
  5.  What high energy spectrum is seen during the large energy releases?
  6.  Are the isotopes of the elements seen during mass spec work normal or are 
there certain isotopes seen for the various elements being detected?
  7.  Why do they not identify the papers on LENR that Toyota etal., have put 
out?
  8.  How did they measure the effect of gravity being zero?



They should have the answers to all these questions, given their apparent 
scientific expertise onboard.
The angular momentum associated with the various spherical double layers should 
be determined.

The double layers of the plasma seem like they are a separate coherent system 
coupled by a magnetic field via the intrinsic spin of the electrons and the 
various positive ions, whatever they are—probably hydrogen.

Since the double layers form with both hollow and solid anodes, I would bet the 
Ni alloy is loaded with hydrogen to start.  The hollow anodes can be 
replenished with H a it leaks into the plasma and the inside of the reactor.

IMHO it sounds like LENR.

Bob Cook

From: JonesBeene<mailto:jone...@pacbell.net>
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 9:10 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Re: LENR is occurring in SAFIRE


Why is this not a glorified Farnsworth Fusor?

The basic configuration, voltage and electrode placement is similar, as are the 
outputs including production of He3 and neutrons.

Did they even credit Farnsworth? He invented the desktop electric plasma 
machine with spherical plasma and self-focusing. These guys added some nice 
computer controls and a wealth of self-promotion - but is there a fundamental 
improvement in operation ?



From: Axil Axil<mailto:janap...@gmail.com>


http://disq.us/url?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.safireproject.com%2FewExternalFiles%2FSAFIRE-Project-Report.pdf%3A32XLsBM3uurpRXHUMnmHfcZ4JQk=2168707



Here is the written report that accompanies the SAFIRE video presentation.


On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 11:05 AM, Axil Axil 
<janap...@gmail.com<mailto:janap...@gmail.com>> wrote:

The SAFIRE project got kicked in the teeth with LENR. These professional 
scientists really don't know what is going on. Just like in the SunCell, 
tungsten vaporizes in nanoseconds. Like the Hutchison effect, tungsten turns 
into powder. This video is long but if you are interested in LENR, it is worth 
the time. The LENR stuff starts at 33:00, but if you don't know what SAFIRE is, 
watch it from the beginning. If you are interested in the weird stuff that MFMP 
is finding, you will find more of it in this video. At 1:03:18, there is a 
large power discharge that the presenter did not want to talk about, but in 
past presentations, the output form these energy bursts was up to 20,000,000 
watts and He3 was found, I have a felling that the SAFIRE project is in the 
process of patenting the fusion effects. The researchers may be going dark on 
this process. SAFIRE has opened the door to a new way to do plasma fusion 
without radiation and neutrons.



[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keJAQIWEyzY[/media]<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keJAQIWEyzY%5b/media%5d>

Re: [Vo]:Re: LENR is occurring in SAFIRE

2018-03-16 Thread Axil Axil 
As far as I know there is no neutrons. Where did you find that neutron
reference?

On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 12:10 PM, JonesBeene  wrote:

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> Why is this not a glorified Farnsworth Fusor?
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>
> The basic configuration, voltage and electrode placement is similar, as
> are the outputs including production of He3 and neutrons.
>
>
>
> Did they even credit Farnsworth? He invented the desktop electric plasma
> machine with spherical plasma and self-focusing. These guys added some nice
> computer controls and a wealth of self-promotion - but is there a
> fundamental improvement in operation ?
>
>
>
>
>
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> *From: *Axil Axil 
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> http://disq.us/url?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.safireproject.com%
> 2FewExternalFiles%2FSAFIRE-Project-Report.pdf%
> 3A32XLsBM3uurpRXHUMnmHfcZ4JQk=2168707
>
>
>
> Here is the written report that accompanies the SAFIRE video presentation.
>
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> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 11:05 AM, Axil Axil  wrote:
>
> The SAFIRE project got kicked in the teeth with LENR. These professional
> scientists really don't know what is going on. Just like in the SunCell,
> tungsten vaporizes in nanoseconds. Like the Hutchison effect, tungsten
> turns into powder. This video is long but if you are interested in LENR, it
> is worth the time. The LENR stuff starts at 33:00, but if you don't know
> what SAFIRE is, watch it from the beginning. If you are interested in the
> weird stuff that MFMP is finding, you will find more of it in this video.
> At 1:03:18, there is a large power discharge that the presenter did not
> want to talk about, but in past presentations, the output form these energy
> bursts was up to 20,000,000 watts and He3 was found, I have a felling that
> the SAFIRE project is in the process of patenting the fusion effects. The
> researchers may be going dark on this process. SAFIRE has opened the door
> to a new way to do plasma fusion without radiation and neutrons.
>
>
>
> [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keJAQIWEyzY[/media]
>
>
>
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>

RE: [Vo]:Re: LENR is occurring in SAFIRE

2018-03-16 Thread JonesBeene 

Why is this not a glorified Farnsworth Fusor? 

The basic configuration, voltage and electrode placement is similar, as are the 
outputs including production of He3 and neutrons.

Did they even credit Farnsworth? He invented the desktop electric plasma 
machine with spherical plasma and self-focusing. These guys added some nice 
computer controls and a wealth of self-promotion - but is there a fundamental 
improvement in operation ?



From: Axil Axil

http://disq.us/url?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.safireproject.com%2FewExternalFiles%2FSAFIRE-Project-Report.pdf%3A32XLsBM3uurpRXHUMnmHfcZ4JQk=2168707

Here is the written report that accompanies the SAFIRE video presentation. 


On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 11:05 AM, Axil Axil  wrote:
The SAFIRE project got kicked in the teeth with LENR. These professional 
scientists really don't know what is going on. Just like in the SunCell, 
tungsten vaporizes in nanoseconds. Like the Hutchison effect, tungsten turns 
into powder. This video is long but if you are interested in LENR, it is worth 
the time. The LENR stuff starts at 33:00, but if you don't know what SAFIRE is, 
watch it from the beginning. If you are interested in the weird stuff that MFMP 
is finding, you will find more of it in this video. At 1:03:18, there is a 
large power discharge that the presenter did not want to talk about, but in 
past presentations, the output form these energy bursts was up to 20,000,000 
watts and He3 was found, I have a felling that the SAFIRE project is in the 
process of patenting the fusion effects. The researchers may be going dark on 
this process. SAFIRE has opened the door to a new way to do plasma fusion 
without radiation and neutrons.

[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keJAQIWEyzY[/media]