RE: [Vo]:Theory of Little Pops Evidence in A Growing Earth!
As controversial as the subject is, the Wiki article is balanced, if not leaning towards the minority viewpoint: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expanding_earth Here is what is said about Adams: One prominent present day advocate of an expanding Earth is comics artist Neal Adams,[34] who calls his ideas Growing Earth Theory. He believes that an Earth with half its present radius would allow the continents to fit together perfectly, completely closing both the Atlantic and Pacific oceans. Adams has made video animations that graphically illustrate his hypothesis. His divergence from older versions of Expanded Earth is his proposed mechanism of expansion, in which new mass is created by some sort of electron/positron pair production within the core of the Earth.[35][36][37] From: Wm. Scott Smith You don't even need a Big Bang if you have enough Little Pops Evidence that this is so!!! The Earth Grows!!! http://www.nealadams.com/nmu.html http://www.nealadams.com/nmu.html _
RE: [Vo]:Theory of Little Pops Evidence in A Growing Earth!
Scott, One thing I meant to add to the previous - about the methodology for an expanding earth - and it is not mentioned in the Wiki piece - is the assertion of Dr. R. Mills of large scale hydrino T formation in the solar corona. Side note: Due to trademark concerns, we are usually calling the below-ground-state hydrogen: f/H for fractional hydrogen. Mills was not the first to suggest the species, but he has put many man-years of effort into his evolving theory, and is generally given credit for adding substance to the basic concept, despite the flaws that have turned up in the mathematics (according to critics on the HSG forum). Anyway, given that Mills could be partially correct - and has opined that as much as half of the energy output of the Sun is generated in the solar corona, in the form of EUV from ongoing deep f/H shrinkage (as opposed to fusion) - if true, then that would amount to millions of tons per second of neutral material (or even Rydberg matter) being spewed outwards, and over time this can provide some mass accretion for an expanding earth hypothesis (so long as all planets expand, and not just earth). It also explains the Oort cloud and possibly even a proportion of dark matter in the big picture. The downside of the viewpoint is the side-effect of the sun losing more mass over time than with fusion, and consequently that should mean that the earth's orbit would expand gradually over time. Global cooling would be the result of that . g . and this winter seems to be one that bolsters the Anti-Algore contingent. Let's don't go there. BTW - This view of a solar origin for large amounts of cosmological f/H does not necessarily negate Fran's view of a Casimir cavity based species, which is transient, as opposed to permanent. There could easily be a middle ground, or more inclusive mega-approach which anyone might wish to consider at some point: for instance, one in which the cavity origin is a subset of the broader phenomenon. Perhaps the first few fractional levels are always transient (and Mills is wrong on that) but after a certain fractional threshold is reached, or energy-depletion level is reached, the species shrinks all the way to Rydberg matter. This could explain some of the recent pycnodeuterium (Arata, et al) results rather elegantly since that only happens after lots of heat has been given up over several days in the experiment. A most enticing feature is that it all (cosmological, macro-scale and nanoscale) can be tied into a revised ZPE hypothesis with quantum flux as the common denominator (as explained via the Dirac epo). R. Mills, to his extreme discredit, is a ZPE denier ;-) Jones
RE: [Vo]:Theory of Little Pops Evidence in A Growing Earth!
Jones, On the surface (no pun intended) this is an absolutely absurd hypothesis. ...and yet, I love it! Well shoot! We know stars expand and shrink during their epic life times. So... why not planets too? What mechanism has been theorized that would make planets like our Earth (and Mars) expand? Oh! I know! Bunches of hydrinos normalizing back to the normal ground state Yeah, that's the ticket! But I wants-ta know: where wuz all the ocean water before Earth expanded. Laying on top of everything? Maybe Earthj was originally WaterWorld. Watch out for those Smokers! Oh! I don't care! This is still an elegant hypothesis! :-) A+ Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 9:58 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Theory of Little Pops Evidence in A Growing Earth! As controversial as the subject is, the Wiki article is balanced, if not leaning towards the minority viewpoint: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expanding_earth Here is what is said about Adams: One prominent present day advocate of an expanding Earth is comics artist Neal Adams,[34] who calls his ideas Growing Earth Theory. He believes that an Earth with half its present radius would allow the continents to fit together perfectly, completely closing both the Atlantic and Pacific oceans. Adams has made video animations that graphically illustrate his hypothesis. His divergence from older versions of Expanded Earth is his proposed mechanism of expansion, in which new mass is created by some sort of electron/positron pair production within the core of the Earth.[35][36][37] From: Wm. Scott Smith You don't even need a Big Bang if you have enough Little Pops Evidence that this is so!!! The Earth Grows!!! http://www.nealadams.com/nmu.html
RE: [Vo]:Theory of Little Pops Evidence in A Growing Earth!
OK Steven - first, let's be clear that I do not espouse this theory as it stands now. However, it deserves a fair hearing. It may not fly, but it has not been shot down effectively by the mainstream. In fact, the counter arguments are lame. In fact, there are parts of it that might fit quite well into the mainstream view - such as expansion being 'an initial stimulus' for starting and intensifying the process of continental drift / subduction. The end result is a bit of both. The earth may have been smaller 4.5 billion years ago, but instead of 400% smaller, only 25% (the numbers are meaningless except to express the point that even a small difference could be important if we acknowledge that both views can coexist). As for f/H normalizing after arrival ... yes, that is a good observation, and could be the major factor driving expansion ... yet, you ask the question about the water problem ... well, it can be observed that you may have answered the question with the setup, no? Most rock - granite, limestone, sandstone etc is an oxide. Shale contains lots of carbon. What happens when a neutral and very dense form of hydrogen, expelled from the solar corona... ... which may have been 100,000 times denser (if were Rydberg matter) first sinks to the core of earth and later, when it absorbs sufficient heat within the earth, expands and bonds chemically with its surroundings ... ... catch my drift :) If you said - it probably forms water, with some of it forms abiogenic oil (the Gold hypothesis), then go to the head of the class... There could have been far less water 4.5 billion years ago, and some of it has been manufactured by the ongoing solar f/H process. Some oil and natural gas may also have an inorganic origin. Jones -Original Message- From: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson Jones, On the surface (no pun intended) this is an absolutely absurd hypothesis. ...and yet, I love it! Well shoot! We know stars expand and shrink during their epic life times. So... why not planets too? What mechanism has been theorized that would make planets like our Earth (and Mars) expand? Oh! I know! Bunches of hydrinos normalizing back to the normal ground state Yeah, that's the ticket! But I wants-ta know: where wuz all the ocean water before Earth expanded. Laying on top of everything? Maybe Earthj was originally WaterWorld. Watch out for those Smokers! Oh! I don't care! This is still an elegant hypothesis! :-) A+ Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 9:58 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Theory of Little Pops Evidence in A Growing Earth! As controversial as the subject is, the Wiki article is balanced, if not leaning towards the minority viewpoint: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expanding_earth Here is what is said about Adams: One prominent present day advocate of an expanding Earth is comics artist Neal Adams,[34] who calls his ideas Growing Earth Theory. He believes that an Earth with half its present radius would allow the continents to fit together perfectly, completely closing both the Atlantic and Pacific oceans. Adams has made video animations that graphically illustrate his hypothesis. His divergence from older versions of Expanded Earth is his proposed mechanism of expansion, in which new mass is created by some sort of electron/positron pair production within the core of the Earth.[35][36][37] From: Wm. Scott Smith You don't even need a Big Bang if you have enough Little Pops Evidence that this is so!!! The Earth Grows!!! http://www.nealadams.com/nmu.html