RE: [Vo]:Theory of Little Pops Evidence in A Growing Earth!

2010-02-14 Thread Jones Beene
As controversial as the subject is, the Wiki article is balanced, if not
leaning towards the minority viewpoint:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expanding_earth

 

Here is what is said about Adams:

 

One prominent present day advocate of an expanding Earth is comics artist
Neal Adams,[34] who calls his ideas Growing Earth Theory. He believes that
an Earth with half its present radius would allow the continents to fit
together perfectly, completely closing both the Atlantic and Pacific oceans.
Adams has made video animations that graphically illustrate his hypothesis.
His divergence from older versions of Expanded Earth is his proposed
mechanism of expansion, in which new mass is created by some sort of
electron/positron pair production within the core of the Earth.[35][36][37]

 

 

From: Wm. Scott Smith 

 
You don't even need a Big Bang if you have enough Little Pops
 
Evidence that this is so!!!  The Earth Grows!!!
 
 http://www.nealadams.com/nmu.html http://www.nealadams.com/nmu.html

  _  



RE: [Vo]:Theory of Little Pops Evidence in A Growing Earth!

2010-02-14 Thread Jones Beene
Scott,

 

One thing I meant to add to the previous - about the methodology for an
expanding earth - and it is not mentioned in the Wiki piece - is the
assertion of Dr. R. Mills of large scale hydrino T formation in the solar
corona. 

 

Side note: Due to trademark concerns, we are usually calling the
below-ground-state hydrogen:  f/H for fractional hydrogen. Mills was not
the first to suggest the species, but he has put many man-years of effort
into his evolving theory, and is generally given credit for adding substance
to the basic concept, despite the flaws that have turned up in the
mathematics (according to critics on the HSG forum).

 

Anyway, given that Mills could be partially correct - and has opined that as
much as half of the energy output of the Sun is generated in the solar
corona, in the form of EUV from ongoing deep f/H shrinkage (as opposed to
fusion) - if true, then that would amount to millions of tons per second of
neutral material (or even Rydberg matter) being spewed outwards, and over
time this can provide some mass accretion for an expanding earth hypothesis
(so long as all planets expand, and not just earth). 

 

It also explains the Oort cloud and possibly even a proportion of dark
matter in the big picture. The downside of the viewpoint is the
side-effect of the sun losing more mass over time than with fusion, and
consequently that should mean that the earth's orbit would expand gradually
over time. Global cooling would be the result of that . g . and this
winter seems to be one that bolsters the Anti-Algore contingent. Let's don't
go there.

 

BTW - This view of a solar origin for large amounts of cosmological f/H
does not necessarily negate Fran's view of a Casimir cavity based species,
which is transient, as opposed to permanent. 

 

There could easily be a middle ground, or more inclusive mega-approach which
anyone might wish to consider at some point: for instance, one in which the
cavity origin is a subset of the broader phenomenon. Perhaps the first few
fractional levels are always transient (and Mills is wrong on that) but
after a certain fractional threshold is reached, or energy-depletion level
is reached, the species shrinks all the way to Rydberg matter. 

 

This could explain some of the recent pycnodeuterium (Arata, et al)
results rather elegantly since that only happens after lots of heat has been
given up over several days in the experiment. A most enticing feature is
that it all (cosmological, macro-scale and nanoscale) can be tied into a
revised ZPE hypothesis with quantum flux as the common denominator (as
explained via the Dirac epo). R. Mills, to his extreme discredit, is a ZPE
denier ;-)

 

Jones

 

 

 

 



RE: [Vo]:Theory of Little Pops Evidence in A Growing Earth!

2010-02-14 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Jones,

On the surface (no pun intended) this is an absolutely absurd hypothesis.

...and yet, I love it!

Well shoot! We know stars expand and shrink during their epic life times.
So... why not planets too? What mechanism has been theorized that would make
planets like our Earth (and Mars) expand? Oh! I know! Bunches of hydrinos
normalizing back to the normal ground state Yeah, that's the ticket!

But I wants-ta know: where wuz all the ocean water before Earth expanded.
Laying on top of everything? Maybe Earthj was originally WaterWorld. Watch
out for those Smokers!

Oh! I don't care! This is still an elegant hypothesis! :-) 

A+

Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks




From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] 
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 9:58 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Theory of Little Pops  Evidence in A Growing Earth!

As controversial as the subject is, the Wiki article is balanced, if not
leaning towards the minority viewpoint:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expanding_earth

Here is what is said about Adams:

One prominent present day advocate of an expanding Earth is comics artist
Neal Adams,[34] who calls his ideas Growing Earth Theory. He believes that
an Earth with half its present radius would allow the continents to fit
together perfectly, completely closing both the Atlantic and Pacific oceans.
Adams has made video animations that graphically illustrate his hypothesis.
His divergence from older versions of Expanded Earth is his proposed
mechanism of expansion, in which new mass is created by some sort of
electron/positron pair production within the core of the Earth.[35][36][37]


From: Wm. Scott Smith 
 
You don't even need a Big Bang if you have enough Little Pops
 
Evidence that this is so!!!  The Earth Grows!!!
 
http://www.nealadams.com/nmu.html




RE: [Vo]:Theory of Little Pops Evidence in A Growing Earth!

2010-02-14 Thread Jones Beene
OK Steven - first, let's be clear that I do not espouse this theory as it
stands now.

However, it deserves a fair hearing. It may not fly, but it has not been
shot down effectively by the mainstream. In fact, the counter arguments are
lame.

In fact, there are parts of it that might fit quite well into the mainstream
view - such as expansion being 'an initial stimulus' for starting and
intensifying the process of continental drift / subduction. The end result
is a bit of both. 

The earth may have been smaller 4.5 billion years ago, but instead of 400%
smaller, only 25% (the numbers are meaningless except to express the point
that even a small difference could be important if we acknowledge that both
views can coexist).

As for f/H normalizing after arrival ... yes, that is a good
observation, and could be the major factor driving expansion ... yet, you
ask the question about the water problem ... well, it can be observed that
you may have answered the question with the setup, no? 

Most rock - granite, limestone, sandstone etc is an oxide. Shale contains
lots of carbon. What happens when a neutral and very dense form of hydrogen,
expelled from the solar corona... 

... which may have been 100,000 times denser (if were Rydberg matter) first
sinks to the core of earth and later, when it absorbs sufficient heat within
the earth, expands and bonds chemically with its surroundings ... 

... catch my drift :)

If you said - it probably forms water, with some of it forms abiogenic oil
(the Gold hypothesis), then go to the head of the class... 

There could have been far less water 4.5 billion years ago, and some of it
has been manufactured by the ongoing solar f/H process. Some oil and
natural gas may also have an inorganic origin.

Jones


-Original Message-
From: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson 

Jones,

On the surface (no pun intended) this is an absolutely absurd hypothesis.

...and yet, I love it!

Well shoot! We know stars expand and shrink during their epic life times.
So... why not planets too? What mechanism has been theorized that would make
planets like our Earth (and Mars) expand? Oh! I know! Bunches of hydrinos
normalizing back to the normal ground state Yeah, that's the ticket!

But I wants-ta know: where wuz all the ocean water before Earth expanded.
Laying on top of everything? Maybe Earthj was originally WaterWorld. Watch
out for those Smokers!

Oh! I don't care! This is still an elegant hypothesis! :-) 

A+

Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks




From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] 
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 9:58 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Theory of Little Pops  Evidence in A Growing Earth!

As controversial as the subject is, the Wiki article is balanced, if not
leaning towards the minority viewpoint:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expanding_earth

Here is what is said about Adams:

One prominent present day advocate of an expanding Earth is comics artist
Neal Adams,[34] who calls his ideas Growing Earth Theory. He believes that
an Earth with half its present radius would allow the continents to fit
together perfectly, completely closing both the Atlantic and Pacific oceans.
Adams has made video animations that graphically illustrate his hypothesis.
His divergence from older versions of Expanded Earth is his proposed
mechanism of expansion, in which new mass is created by some sort of
electron/positron pair production within the core of the Earth.[35][36][37]


From: Wm. Scott Smith 
 
You don't even need a Big Bang if you have enough Little Pops
 
Evidence that this is so!!!  The Earth Grows!!!
 
http://www.nealadams.com/nmu.html