Re: [Vo]:Backstory of Phenanthrene excess heat

2008-12-04 Thread Jones Beene
In re: why phenanthrene? (aside from its fluorescence) ... is phenanthrene unique in the world of nuclear chemistry? ... and even more tantalizing- is it a record of an ancient biological pathway? (since it is found in the 'fossil record' as a component of coal). QTAIM - This is one further

Re: [Vo]:Backstory of Phenanthrene excess heat

2008-12-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: Mizuno is only vaguely aware of Mills and has not read any of his work as far as I know. Then he has regrettably put himself at great disadvantage- given the obvious similarities ... That would only be true if the theory is correct and if it makes useful predictions. (I

Re: [Vo]:Backstory of Phenanthrene excess heat

2008-12-04 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Thu, 4 Dec 2008 08:39:02 -0800 (PST): Hi, [snip] ***hydrogen-to-hydrino 3-body reactions*** I say this because precise three body reaction of hydrogen in a gas or plasma are extremely rare, since each of the protons has 3 degrees of freedom... BUT ... in

Re: [Vo]:Backstory of Phenanthrene excess heat

2008-12-04 Thread Jones Beene
Robin, The problem with this is that Hydrogen bound in a molecule has a different ionization energy than free Hydrogen, which means that it can no longer function as a Mills catalyst (unless coincidentally the molecule has become a Mills catalyst analogous to NaH). Yes. That is exactly

Re: [Vo]:Backstory of Phenanthrene excess heat

2008-12-04 Thread Mike Carrell
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [snip] The problem with this is that Hydrogen bound in a molecule has a different ionization energy than free Hydrogen, which means that it can no longer function as a Mills catalyst (unless coincidentally the molecule has become a Mills

Re: [Vo]:Backstory of Phenanthrene excess heat

2008-12-04 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Thu, 4 Dec 2008 14:11:30 -0800 (PST): Hi, [snip] Secondly - as posted several times by the renegade observers who are trying to merge CQM and CF into a coherent single theory - and who believe that Mills got much of it right, and either missed some of it, or

Re: [Vo]:Backstory of Phenanthrene excess heat

2008-12-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: [SIDE NOTE #3] It is somewhat of disgrace that Mizuno does not cite Mills, nor is he apparently familiar with Forster or FRET. Mizuno is only vaguely aware of Mills and has not read any of his work as far as I know. Mills is challenging to read and Mizuno has difficulty

Re: [Vo]:Backstory of Phenanthrene excess heat

2008-12-03 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Wed, 3 Dec 2008 14:40:48 -0800 (PST): Hi, [snip] We need full clarification before a skeptic who does know about the hydrino can say that what Mizuno was really measuring in the ICP mass spectroscopy (Finnigan Mat Element: outsourced) was merely some new

Re: [Vo]:Backstory of Phenanthrene excess heat

2008-12-03 Thread Jones Beene
Robin, There another possibility that keeps nagging at me It occurs to me that perhaps there is something like CHy, with a strong bond between the Hy and the C, which would have a mass of 13, and would pass for C13. Well - the problem is that the (hypothetical) molecular ion 12C(Hy)+

Re: [Vo]:Backstory of Phenanthrene excess heat

2008-12-03 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Wed, 3 Dec 2008 18:10:42 -0800 (PST): Hi, Robin, There another possibility that keeps nagging at me It occurs to me that perhaps there is something like CHy, with a strong bond between the Hy and the C, which would have a mass of 13, and would pass