In reply to Jones Beene's message of Wed, 3 Dec 2008 14:40:48 -0800 (PST): Hi, [snip] >We need full clarification before a skeptic who does know about the hydrino >can say that what Mizuno was really measuring in the ICP mass spectroscopy >(Finnigan Mat Element: outsourced) was merely some new type of ionized >molecule with a bound and buried proton (i.e. hydrino) attached within the 12C >orbital in a new way ... (still new chemistry and physics, or old hydrino >tech, but not as specutacular as finding of true isotopic shifting would be) >... IOW the hydrino explanation would be an alternative to the 13C positive >ion that could only be appreciated by learning CQM. [snip] This is essentially what I was referring to in my previous post where I wrote:-
"There another possibility that keeps nagging at me. Mills claims the production of e.g. KHyI. It occurs to me that perhaps there is something like CHy, with a strong bond between the Hy and the C, which would have a mass of 13, and would pass for C13. That would also explain the dearth of fusion energy." This is what I have been saying on Vortex for years. It is precisely why a measurement from a MS is not sufficient for work in this field. It needs to be backed up by alternative methods which directly access the nucleus, such as NAA. NAA would clearly distinguish between a Hydrino bound to C12, and real C13, because adding a neutron to a C12 nucleus simply yields stable C13, whereas adding one to C13 yields C14 which is radioactive. Note also that the bond between the C12 and the Hy could be much stronger than an ordinary chemical bond, and hence have a good chance of surviving the ion creation process in a MS. BTW, since Mizuno probably still has the C13 (or can readily make more), this option is still open. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
