Re: [Vo]:Shanahan paper and Krivit's response

2010-05-08 Thread GeorgeBaldwin(Gmail)
: [Vo]:Shanahan paper and Krivit's response Michel Jullian wrote: . . .an idée fixe (French, meaning a complete meal of several courses, sometimes with choices permitted, offered by a restaurant at a fixed price). Only in US French then! Yes, that probably is a U.S. construct, but actually I

RE: [Vo]:Shanahan paper and Krivit's response

2010-05-08 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 07:06 PM 5/7/2010, Jones Beene wrote: -Original Message- From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax But his [Scott Little] standing offer is to use his fancy calorimeter, and I'm not searching for heat. Just neutrons. Neutrons are direct evidence of nuclear reactions ... That is a good strategy,

Re: [Vo]:Shanahan paper and Krivit's response

2010-05-08 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 03:53 AM 5/8/2010, GeorgeBaldwin\(Gmail\) wrote: We Americans are casual about such things.Hey, it sounds the same to us. Hey, I think I get it now, you mean like fusion and fission? :-) You mean that new-kew-lar stuff?

RE: [Vo]:Shanahan paper and Krivit's response

2010-05-08 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax This is what I expect to see: I'll be lucky if I register on the film one neutron track per several minutes, maybe ten minutes, averageThe key to the film is getting the film very close to the source, so neutron levels on the level of

RE: [Vo]:Shanahan paper and Krivit's response

2010-05-08 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:06 PM 5/8/2010, Jones Beene wrote: -Original Message- From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax This is what I expect to see: I'll be lucky if I register on the film one neutron track per several minutes, maybe ten minutes, averageThe key to the film is getting the film very close to the

Re: [Vo]:Shanahan paper and Krivit's response

2010-05-07 Thread Terry Blanton
Wait a minute. Why should I care about two people, who are both wrong, arguing with each other? :-) T On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: See: http://sti.srs.gov/fulltext/SRNS-STI-2009-00825.pdf

Re: [Vo]:Shanahan paper and Krivit's response

2010-05-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton wrote: Wait a minute. Why should I care about two people, who are both wrong, arguing with each other? :-) Who said I care? I report, you decide. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Shanahan paper and Krivit's response

2010-05-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: Wait a minute. Why should I care about two people, who are both wrong . . . Who said I care? . . . Seriously, let us grant that Krivit is right in this instance. Shanahan is smart but he went off the rails a long time ago, with an idée fixe (French, meaning a complete meal of

Re: [Vo]:Shanahan paper and Krivit's response

2010-05-07 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:56 AM 5/7/2010, Jed Rothwell wrote: See: http://sti.srs.gov/fulltext/SRNS-STI-2009-00825.pdf Wow! Our friend Shanahan finally got published again. This is good news, actually, quite good. Shanahan is nuts, but he's the best the skeptics have at this point. I've been suspecting that

Re: [Vo]:Shanahan paper and Krivit's response

2010-05-07 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:56 AM 5/7/2010, Jed Rothwell wrote: See: http://sti.srs.gov/fulltext/SRNS-STI-2009-00825.pdf Wow! Our friend Shanahan finally got published again. This is good news, actually, quite good. Shanahan is nuts, but he's the best the skeptics have at this point. I've been suspecting that

Re: [Vo]:Shanahan paper and Krivit's response

2010-05-07 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Terry Blanton wrote: Wait a minute.  Why should I care about two people, who are both wrong, arguing with each other?  :-) Who said I care? I report, you decide. - Jed Well, I did find this rather amusing: Krivit:

Re: [Vo]:Shanahan paper and Krivit's response

2010-05-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton wrote: Well, I did find this rather amusing: Krivit: The credibility of Shanahan's criticisms is further weakened by his citation of and reliance on four references from a single source of allegedly scientific research that are neither peer-reviewed nor published. For 21 years,

RE: [Vo]:Shanahan paper and Krivit's response

2010-05-07 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell I'm not sure about discredit but I think we can all agree that despite his last name, Scott Little does cast a large shadow. Plus, he takes up a large fraction of the space in an elevator. Chris Tinsley remarked that it is standing joke in

Re: [Vo]:Shanahan paper and Krivit's response

2010-05-07 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 01:47 PM 5/7/2010, Terry Blanton wrote: Wait a minute. Why should I care about two people, who are both wrong, arguing with each other? :-) Because even a stopped clock is right twice a day Seriously, Shanahan, it must be realized, is the best the skeptics have at this point. He's

Re: [Vo]:Shanahan paper and Krivit's response

2010-05-07 Thread Michel Jullian
2010/5/7 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com: I wrote: Wait a minute.  Why should I care about two people, who are both wrong . . . Who said I care? . . . Seriously, let us grant that Krivit is right in this instance. Shanahan is smart but he went off the rails a long time ago, with an

Re: [Vo]:Shanahan paper and Krivit's response

2010-05-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
Michel Jullian wrote: . . .an idée fixe (French, meaning a complete meal of several courses, sometimes with choices permitted, offered by a restaurant at a fixed price). Only in US French then! Yes, that probably is a U.S. construct, but actually I borrowed the definition for prix fixe.

RE: [Vo]:Shanahan paper and Krivit's response

2010-05-07 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:23 PM 5/7/2010, Jones Beene wrote: I am pretty sure that discredit is apropos of nothing, really ... Scott would probably love to see real proof of a robust energy anomaly as much as any of us. However, he does not suffer from the expectation effect nor inventor's disease and he does not

RE: [Vo]:Shanahan paper and Krivit's response

2010-05-07 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax But his [Scott Little] standing offer is to use his fancy calorimeter, and I'm not searching for heat. Just neutrons. Neutrons are direct evidence of nuclear reactions ... That is a good strategy, and Scott is also an expert in

Re: [Vo]:Shanahan paper and Krivit's response

2010-05-07 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 05/07/2010 05:44 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Michel Jullian wrote: . . .an idée fixe (French, meaning a complete meal of several courses, sometimes with choices permitted, offered by a restaurant at a fixed price). Only in US French then! Yes, that probably is a U.S. construct, but