Re: [Vo]:You can patent Cold Fusion

2013-07-22 Thread Teslaalset
They may have filed some already. Keep in mind that Patent Applications
remain invisible for at least 18 months after their filing date.


On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:16 PM, blaze spinnaker
blazespinna...@gmail.comwrote:

 It is this which makes me question why Rossi / Defkalion have not filed
 for patents to protect their work.   The US is first to file.   Someone may
 beat them to it.



Re: [Vo]:You can patent Cold Fusion

2013-07-22 Thread blaze spinnaker
Absolutely!   And that's what I want to hear as an answer.  :)

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Teslaalset robbiehobbiesh...@gmail.comwrote:

 They may have filed some already. Keep in mind that Patent Applications
 remain invisible for at least 18 months after their filing date.


 On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:16 PM, blaze spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com
  wrote:

  It is this which makes me question why Rossi / Defkalion have not filed
 for patents to protect their work.   The US is first to file.   Someone may
 beat them to it.





Re: [Vo]:You can patent Cold Fusion

2013-07-22 Thread Alain Sepeda
I doubt they did not patent something, but like fire, it is hard to patent
cold fusion...
however every year there are  patent about engine...
Defkalion claim to have filed 6 patents, and only one for the fuel...

You should ask JP Biberian about patents subtleties, he is experienced too,
about principles, about corps behaviors, and how to fight them with
subtleties.


2013/7/22 blaze spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com

 From a presentation at ICCF from someone who clearly is very credible (and
 backs up everything I know / read):

 http://coldfusionnow.org/message-from-iccf-18-sunday-basic-course/

 My message was simple: think of something useful, describe how others can
 make it happen and stipulate a feature that is new. Not complicated when
 summarized in a few words, but pregnant with meaning and concepts that are
 hard to absorb.
 I tried hard to stay away from my favorite theme, “patenting sensibly”,
 and focus on meeting US PTO requirements to patent Cold Fusion. I
 circulated an email received from the US Patent Office confirming that they
 will issue patents for Cold Fusion inventions if they meet the requirements
 of four sections in the Patent At. These are the sections that deal with
 the usefulness, novelty, inventive step, and the obligation of an applicant
 to provide a description that will enable others to reproduce the invention.
 The point of my presentation was: you can get a patent for something in
 the field of Cold Fusion, even at the US Patent Office. I provided one
 example of a success, and one example of a failure.


 It is this which makes me question why Rossi / Defkalion have not filed
 for patents to protect their work.   The US is first to file.   Someone may
 beat them to it.

 I hope this question is asked very strongly of the Defkalion people
 tomorrow during their demo.



Re: [Vo]:You can patent Cold Fusion

2013-07-22 Thread blaze spinnaker
I'm glad the baseline for this conversation is that cold fusion patents are
possible.  A step in the right direction.

Anyways, if Defkalion has patented anything they should have been revealed
already or at the least, very soon.  They'd be world wide patents and iirc:
you can't delay those.


Re: [Vo]:You can patent Cold Fusion

2013-07-22 Thread Daniel Rocha
Yes, sure, as long as you prove that your device works to the analyzer.


2013/7/22 blaze spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com

 I'm glad the baseline for this conversation is that cold fusion patents
 are possible.  A step in the right direction.

 Anyways, if Defkalion has patented anything they should have been revealed
 already or at the least, very soon.  They'd be world wide patents and iirc:
 you can't delay those.





-- 
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com


Re: [Vo]:You can patent Cold Fusion

2013-07-22 Thread blaze spinnaker
Yes, sure, as long as you prove that your device works to the analyzer.

Examiner review comes *after* the patent app is visible.   Patents aren't
rejected before that.

They do however go into DOE LR review. That happens pretty quickly though
from what I've seen and sometimes the patent is even visible before that
happens.

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, sure, as long as you prove that your device works to the analyzer.


 2013/7/22 blaze spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com

 I'm glad the baseline for this conversation is that cold fusion patents
 are possible.  A step in the right direction.

 Anyways, if Defkalion has patented anything they should have been
 revealed already or at the least, very soon.  They'd be world wide patents
 and iirc: you can't delay those.





 --
 Daniel Rocha - RJ
 danieldi...@gmail.com