Re: [vos-d] [www-vrml] Re: [x3d-public] Wanna help the Mass Avatar Mash?

2007-05-11 Thread Len Bullard
Sounds right.   A test mark is understood legally and otherwise.

OTOH, it is best for everyone that X3D apps conform but X3D adapts.  Few
things are 100% right out of the box including the spec.  Since members
determine what that is, why sue each other for what it ain't?  

A horse is a horse unless of course...

H-anim conformance is important, everyone knows that. Collada is good for
moving loosely contracted assets, but H-anim is the crown jewel for obvious
reasons.

len


From: Alan Hudson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 9:46 PM
To: Len Bullard
 
We have a conformance/certification mark that you are given permission 
to use.

Looks like this:

http://www.xj3d.org/status.html


This is only thing protected.  We don't stop you labeling your software 
as X3D.




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Re: [vos-d] [www-vrml] Re: [x3d-public] Wanna help the Mass Avatar Mash?

2007-05-11 Thread Len Bullard
Nah… Its bad juju to sue for stuff like that.  It’s a labeling issue.
Possibly if you were citing specific conformance declarations, but
otherwise, the only ones to sue would be customers.  No one else has the
time or interest.  Nasty grams maybe. :-)

Thanks guys for working this one hard.  Much appreciated by the authors. 

len

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of thyme

it was pointed out to me that if I don't conform and use the x3d name, it
could result in me facing a lawsuit.
 
regards
thyme




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Re: [vos-d] Van Jacobson: "named data"

2007-05-11 Thread Reed Hedges


Yeah, so his ideas cut accross all kinds of layers and aspects of
networking.   so I don't think VOS can be "THE" solution to the problems
he explains, but it can provide a few key tools. Namely it can be a data
storage system, both for originals, and replicated copies, and for
store-and-forward,  If we include stuff like hash "fingerprints", and
signing/encrypting data objects, versions, and caching and distributing
copies in a clever way.   

Maybe it could be used for routing search/query/response messages, but maybe
not.  

For discovering resources in a particular local communications
environment (e.g. local wireless network) it's probably best for
something like zeroconf or other broadcast queries.  

Not sure how VOS could fit in with multicast. Not sure if that's
something we should worry about here, since multicast has turned out to
be something of a dead end on the internet, and most local networks as
well that haven't been set up with the possability of multicast in mind.


Reed



On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 05:51:45AM +, Lalo Martins wrote:
> Aaron Bentley posted to the bzr list about a Van Jacobson talk:
> > I was watching this talk by Van Jacobson about a new networking
> > paradigm, and I started going "hey, I know this stuff".
> > 
> > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6972678839686672840&hl=en
> > 
> > Around 37:31, he starts talking about a new dissemination mechanism in
> > which you look for named data, rather than having conversations with
> > servers.
> 
> I can't actually *watch* the talk, though, as stupid google video doesn't 
> work in China.  If anyone is interested, can you please watch, and post a 
> summary?  In particular, how much it's relevant to the way we're already 
> doing things ("named data" sounds a lot like "vobject" from my chair).
> 
> best,
>Lalo Martins

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