Re: [vpp-dev] IPsec tunnel interfaces?

2020-06-18 Thread Christian Hopps
> On May 11, 2020, at 11:03 AM, Christian Hopps wrote: > >> On May 11, 2020, at 9:56 AM, Neale Ranns (nranns) wrote: >> >> On 11/05/2020 14:28, "Christian Hopps" wrote: > >> >> Is it *really* that big a deal to have a logical interface represent a >> tunnel mode SA? It actually seems

Re: [vpp-dev] IPsec tunnel interfaces?

2020-05-11 Thread Christian Hopps
istian Hopps >> Date: Sunday 10 May 2020 at 14:33 >> To: "Neale Ranns (nranns)" >> Cc: Christian Hopps , vpp-dev >> Subject: Re: [vpp-dev] IPsec tunnel interfaces? >> >>> On May 9, 2020, at 7:23 AM, Neale Ranns via lists.fd.io >>> wro

Re: [vpp-dev] IPsec tunnel interfaces?

2020-05-11 Thread Neale Ranns via lists.fd.io
uot; > Cc: Christian Hopps , vpp-dev > Subject: Re: [vpp-dev] IPsec tunnel interfaces? > > > On May 9, 2020, at 7:23 AM, Neale Ranns via lists.fd.io wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Chris, > > >

Re: [vpp-dev] IPsec tunnel interfaces?

2020-05-11 Thread Christian Hopps
> On May 11, 2020, at 7:50 AM, Neale Ranns (nranns) wrote: > > > > From: on behalf of Christian Hopps > Date: Sunday 10 May 2020 at 14:33 > To: "Neale Ranns (nranns)" > Cc: Christian Hopps , vpp-dev > Subject: Re: [vpp-dev] IPsec tunnel interfaces? &g

Re: [vpp-dev] IPsec tunnel interfaces?

2020-05-11 Thread Neale Ranns via lists.fd.io
From: on behalf of Christian Hopps Date: Sunday 10 May 2020 at 14:33 To: "Neale Ranns (nranns)" Cc: Christian Hopps , vpp-dev Subject: Re: [vpp-dev] IPsec tunnel interfaces? > On May 9, 2020, at 7:23 AM, Neale Ranns via lists.fd.io > wrote: > > > > Hi Ch

Re: [vpp-dev] IPsec tunnel interfaces?

2020-05-10 Thread Christian Hopps
Just a general followup in case tl;dr The point of traffic flow security/confidentiality is to hide the effects of the user traffic on the secure tunnel output. With IPTFS there is a complete decoupling so that one cannot infer anything about the encapsulated traffic from the IPsec tunnel data

Re: [vpp-dev] IPsec tunnel interfaces?

2020-05-10 Thread Christian Hopps
> On May 9, 2020, at 7:23 AM, Neale Ranns via lists.fd.io > wrote: > > > > Hi Chris, > > > > Are there other properties of a tunnel mode SA that you need that are lost > > with this approach? > > I need to use tunnel mode SAs provided by IKEv2. Transport mode is an > optional (normally

Re: [vpp-dev] IPsec tunnel interfaces?

2020-05-09 Thread Neale Ranns via lists.fd.io
Hi Chris, > Are there other properties of a tunnel mode SA that you need that are lost > with this approach? I need to use tunnel mode SAs provided by IKEv2. Transport mode is an optional (normally on-the-wire IKEv2 negotiated) feature of IPsec. These tunnel mode SAs will have IPTFS enabled

Re: [vpp-dev] IPsec tunnel interfaces?

2020-05-08 Thread Christian Hopps
On May 8, 2020, at 3:57 AM, Neale Ranns via lists.fd.io wrote: > > > > From: on behalf of Christian Hopps > Date: Thursday 7 May 2020 at 23:27 > To: "Neale Ranns (nranns)" > Cc: Christian Hopps , vpp-dev > Subject: Re: [vpp-dev] IPsec tunnel interfaces? &

Re: [vpp-dev] IPsec tunnel interfaces?

2020-05-08 Thread Neale Ranns via lists.fd.io
From: on behalf of Christian Hopps Date: Thursday 7 May 2020 at 23:27 To: "Neale Ranns (nranns)" Cc: Christian Hopps , vpp-dev Subject: Re: [vpp-dev] IPsec tunnel interfaces? > On May 7, 2020, at 1:41 PM, Neale Ranns (nranns) wrote: > > > Hi Chris, > > On

Re: [vpp-dev] IPsec tunnel interfaces?

2020-05-07 Thread Christian Hopps
> On May 7, 2020, at 1:41 PM, Neale Ranns (nranns) wrote: > > > Hi Chris, > > On 07/05/2020 16:55, "Christian Hopps" wrote: > > > >> On May 7, 2020, at 8:15 AM, Neale Ranns (nranns) wrote: >> >> >> Hi Chris, >> >> They were replaced by ipip interfaces protected by SAs: >>

Re: [vpp-dev] IPsec tunnel interfaces?

2020-05-07 Thread Neale Ranns via lists.fd.io
Hi Chris, On 07/05/2020 16:55, "Christian Hopps" wrote: > On May 7, 2020, at 8:15 AM, Neale Ranns (nranns) wrote: > > > Hi Chris, > > They were replaced by ipip interfaces protected by SAs: > https://wiki.fd.io/view/VPP/IPSec#Tunnel_Mode > > the

Re: [vpp-dev] IPsec tunnel interfaces?

2020-05-07 Thread Christian Hopps
> On May 7, 2020, at 8:15 AM, Neale Ranns (nranns) wrote: > > > Hi Chris, > > They were replaced by ipip interfaces protected by SAs: > https://wiki.fd.io/view/VPP/IPSec#Tunnel_Mode > > the tunnel always adds encap. You can configure your SA to add additional > encap if you want. Ok, but

Re: [vpp-dev] IPsec tunnel interfaces?

2020-05-07 Thread Damjan Marion via lists.fd.io
Is there a way to keep ipsecX naming, use of ipipX for ipsec tunnels seems to be confusing for many people... > On 7 May 2020, at 14:15, Neale Ranns via lists.fd.io > wrote: > > > Hi Chris, > > They were replaced by ipip interfaces protected by SAs: >

Re: [vpp-dev] IPsec tunnel interfaces?

2020-05-07 Thread Neale Ranns via lists.fd.io
Hi Chris, They were replaced by ipip interfaces protected by SAs: https://wiki.fd.io/view/VPP/IPSec#Tunnel_Mode the tunnel always adds encap. You can configure your SA to add additional encap if you want. /neale From: on behalf of Christian Hopps Date: Wednesday 6 May 2020 at 14:32 To: