RE: [Vserver] Kernel 2.6.11.5 Problem
I am confused, if it is stable why is the 1.9 branch called development. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arne Blankerts Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 2:27 PM To: vserver@list.linux-vserver.org Subject: RE: [Vserver] Kernel 2.6.11.5 Problem On Sun, 2005-04-10 at 12:41 +0200, Ehab Heikal wrote: how stable is the 2.6 branch of vserver, would you run it in a production envoirnment. Stable is very relative definition [tm] I've been using the 2.6 branch on two production servers for quite some time now with no known problems. Actually, it's more stable then the 2.4 version ever was for me... CYA Arne ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] util-vserver + dietlibc ...
Herbert Poetzl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: no, thanks I already figured it, the dietlibc needs patching as the syscall(2) for x86_64 isn't implemented .o( I wonder _what_ is running on your machine ;) I guess it was using _syscall3() instead of syscall(). Shouldn't it? yes, after I read your 'other' email ... this makes some sense ... I just wondered because I didn't know that it is available on x86_64 (headers) To clearify things: util-vserver prefers to use _syscall3() (which is called 'fast' syscall invocation method in the ./configure output) when it is available. _syscall3() is often implemented with inline assembler in asm/unistd.h. But at least on i386, it can not be used in combination with dynamic linking as it writes to the %ebx register which is reserved for PIC addressing. Therefore, most glibc kernel-headers do not provide the _syscallX() functions overall and the 'traditional' syscall(2) must be used. Enrico pgphpOigxwzJp.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] util-vserver + dietlibc ...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen Frost) writes: according to Enrico (please confirm or correct) the glibc has issues with the fake name resolver and is generally considered insecure because usually dynamically linked ... This really needs further explanation and justification. What about glibc being dynamically linked (and able to load other libraries) makes it insecure, specifically? 1. 'insecure', because the dynamical loading of libnss_* is uncontrollable. There is no (documented??) way to disable this loading e.g. when the chroot was entered. Executing a function which would load an nss-library does not give any guarantee that the next call to this function with another argument would not load another library. It's not uncontrollable- just don't call NSS functions after you've chroot'd. That's not possible. During the extraction phase, 'rpm' has to do an username - uid mapping with the setup from the inside of the chroot. So at least there, I need getpwname() after chroot(). Enrico pgpxCsneViktQ.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] Kernel 2.6.11.5 Problem
On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 01:43:50PM +0200, Ehab Heikal wrote: I am confused, if it is stable why is the 1.9 branch called development. probably because 'our' standards are somewhat higher, and we prefer to call it development as long as we are not damn sure that it is rock solid ... (the 2.0 branch will be labeled 'stable') HTH, Herbert -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arne Blankerts Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 2:27 PM To: vserver@list.linux-vserver.org Subject: RE: [Vserver] Kernel 2.6.11.5 Problem On Sun, 2005-04-10 at 12:41 +0200, Ehab Heikal wrote: how stable is the 2.6 branch of vserver, would you run it in a production envoirnment. Stable is very relative definition [tm] I've been using the 2.6 branch on two production servers for quite some time now with no known problems. Actually, it's more stable then the 2.4 version ever was for me... CYA Arne ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] vProcunhide Error
On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 12:56:57PM +0200, Dennis Paulisch wrote: Hi, another Problem when I start: /etc/init.d/vprocunhide start I got many errors like this Ones: you sure you are using proper tools 64bit on 64bit kernel and 32bit on 32bit kernel? looks the the not yet implemented 32bit on 64bit kernel case ... best, Herbert ... ... .. . /proc/net/rt6_stats: No such file or directory /proc/net/ipv6_route: No such file or directory /proc/net/if_inet6: No such file or directory /proc/net/anycast6: No such file or directory /proc/net/sockstat6: No such file or directory /proc/net/snmp6: Bad address /proc/net/udp6: No such file or directory /proc/net/tcp6: No such file or directory /proc/net/raw6: No such file or directory /proc/net/mcfilter6: No such file or directory /proc/net/igmp6: Bad address /proc/net/unix: No such file or directory /proc/net/sockstat: No such file or directory /proc/net/snmp: Bad address /proc/net/netstat: No such file or directory /proc/net/route: Bad address /proc/net/udp: No such file or directory /proc/net/tcp: No such file or directory /proc/net/raw: No such file or directory /proc/net/ip_mr_cache: No such file or directory /proc/net/ip_mr_vif: No such file or directory /proc/net/mcfilter: No such file or directory /proc/net/igmp: Bad address /proc/net/rt_acct: No such file or directory /proc/net/rt_cache: No such file or directory /proc/net/arp: Bad address /proc/net/tr_rif: No such file or directory /proc/net/psched: No such file or directory /proc/net/dev_mcast: No such file or directory /proc/net/wireless: No such file or directory /proc/net/softnet_stat: No such file or directory ... .. . . What could i do? greetz Dennis ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Antwort: Re: [Vserver] vProcunhide Error
Hi, yes this Problem is on the 32bit system, with 32bit kernel nothing now on 64bit. This Test is on a Pentium III (Coppermine) System. with Suse 9.2 Kernel 2.6.11.5-vs1.9.5 with the latest Utilities. Currently it work now... but your test.sh dropped the same error. But now i can login into my vservers.. and can do my things greetz, Dennis On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 12:56:57PM +0200, Dennis Paulisch wrote: Hi, another Problem when I start: /etc/init.d/vprocunhide start I got many errors like this Ones: you sure you are using proper tools 64bit on 64bit kernel and 32bit on 32bit kernel? looks the the not yet implemented 32bit on 64bit kernel case ... best, Herbert ... ... .. . /proc/net/rt6_stats: No such file or directory /proc/net/ipv6_route: No such file or directory /proc/net/if_inet6: No such file or directory /proc/net/anycast6: No such file or directory /proc/net/sockstat6: No such file or directory /proc/net/snmp6: Bad address /proc/net/udp6: No such file or directory /proc/net/tcp6: No such file or directory /proc/net/raw6: No such file or directory /proc/net/mcfilter6: No such file or directory /proc/net/igmp6: Bad address /proc/net/unix: No such file or directory /proc/net/sockstat: No such file or directory /proc/net/snmp: Bad address /proc/net/netstat: No such file or directory /proc/net/route: Bad address /proc/net/udp: No such file or directory /proc/net/tcp: No such file or directory /proc/net/raw: No such file or directory /proc/net/ip_mr_cache: No such file or directory /proc/net/ip_mr_vif: No such file or directory /proc/net/mcfilter: No such file or directory /proc/net/igmp: Bad address /proc/net/rt_acct: No such file or directory /proc/net/rt_cache: No such file or directory /proc/net/arp: Bad address /proc/net/tr_rif: No such file or directory /proc/net/psched: No such file or directory /proc/net/dev_mcast: No such file or directory /proc/net/wireless: No such file or directory /proc/net/softnet_stat: No such file or directory ... .. . . What could i do? greetz Dennis ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
[Vserver] Stable release for 2.6 kernel ...
Greetings Folks! we had a longer discussion last night and we came to the conclusion that this is the right time to start working on a stable 2.0 release (for 2.6.x) so while this will involve a lot of work and testing in various places this also means that there will be some kind of feature freeze for the 2.0 release candidates and we would like to ask you to participate in testing those release candidates and feed back whatever you consider important for the stable release we will also try to get a 'stable' release of the alpha util-vserver done, so consider both, kernel and tools as the upcoming 2.0 release ... we expect first release candidates to show up in one or two weeks, depending on the amount of immediate feedback to the email ... TIA, Herbert ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] Stable release for 2.6 kernel ...
Excellent! Is NG going to be part of it? Grisha On Mon, 11 Apr 2005, Herbert Poetzl wrote: Greetings Folks! we had a longer discussion last night and we came to the conclusion that this is the right time to start working on a stable 2.0 release (for 2.6.x) so while this will involve a lot of work and testing in various places this also means that there will be some kind of feature freeze for the 2.0 release candidates and we would like to ask you to participate in testing those release candidates and feed back whatever you consider important for the stable release we will also try to get a 'stable' release of the alpha util-vserver done, so consider both, kernel and tools as the upcoming 2.0 release ... we expect first release candidates to show up in one or two weeks, depending on the amount of immediate feedback to the email ... TIA, Herbert ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
RE: [Vserver] Kernel 2.6.11.5 Problem
Cool now it will be called stable. I have one question, is virtual networking like with freevps doable? Or is it not there yet or not planned. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ehab Heikal Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 1:44 PM To: vserver@list.linux-vserver.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Vserver] Kernel 2.6.11.5 Problem I am confused, if it is stable why is the 1.9 branch called development. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arne Blankerts Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 2:27 PM To: vserver@list.linux-vserver.org Subject: RE: [Vserver] Kernel 2.6.11.5 Problem On Sun, 2005-04-10 at 12:41 +0200, Ehab Heikal wrote: how stable is the 2.6 branch of vserver, would you run it in a production envoirnment. Stable is very relative definition [tm] I've been using the 2.6 branch on two production servers for quite some time now with no known problems. Actually, it's more stable then the 2.4 version ever was for me... CYA Arne ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] util-vserver + dietlibc ...
Enrico Scholz wrote: Herbert Poetzl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what if we implement the _syscall3 for all known platforms in a proper way, and feed them back to glibc/kernel headers as well as integrate them into dietlibc and/or util-vserver? The kernel (resp. projects like [1] which provide sanitized headers) would be the right place for such changes. But there will pass much time before you can rely on it. These headers are/should not be provided by libc implementations. E.g. glibc.rpm from SUSE Linux 9.2 contains _syscall3() for both x86 and amd64. I'm not sure if it was in the original glibc-2.3.3 tarball or only added later by SUSE. Anyway this macro is unlikely to change and could safely be in the headers, why not? Michal Ludvig -- * Personal homepage: http://www.logix.cz/michal ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver