[Vserver] Re: Vserver newbie question

2005-09-14 Thread Matvey Gladkikh
 I have no clue what this means anyone?
First you need to find vprocunhide script end execute it once per server
reboot.

second you do not need to create /vserver/NAME dir
cause creation script will do it for you.


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Re: [Vserver] Re: Vserver newbie question

2005-09-14 Thread [eMAXX] Sys-Admin

Matvey Gladkikh wrote:


I have no clue what this means anyone?


First you need to find vprocunhide script end execute it once per server
reboot.

second you do not need to create /vserver/NAME dir
cause creation script will do it for you.



It sounds really easy when you say it like this :)

Right now I'm trying to build from scratch with the following howto:
   http://www.debianhowto.de/de:howtos:sarge:linux-vserver

In the howto patch-0.30.208-fix02.diff 
http://www.13thfloor.at/vserver/s_rel26/v2.0/patch-0.30.208-fix02.diff 
is not used, why might I need this patch?


I think the installing procedure isn't that hard and I'm just messing it 
up by following different howto sources for the install. The IRC-logs 
are somewhat helpfull, but I'm really missing the 'red line'.


The main concern I have, is to keep Vserver updated when it's running. 
Debian got a great packiging system, but how should I upgrade Vserver 
(that was build from scratch) when a new version is released? Build 
again from scratch? That's why I tried the sources from 
http://linux-vserver.derjohn.de/ first.


I saw Debian unstable adopted util-vserver-0.30.208 
(http://packages.debian.org/unstable/net/util-vserver), but I'm want to 
use the stable branch. Should I mix?


To much decisions to make ...what's wise to do?


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Vincent Pluk
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Re: [Vserver] Re: Vserver newbie question

2005-09-14 Thread Daniel Kraft
[eMAXX] Sys-Admin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) schrieb:

 The main concern I have, is to keep Vserver updated when it's running.
 Debian got a great packiging system, but how should I upgrade Vserver
 (that was build from scratch) when a new version is released? Build
 again from scratch? That's why I tried the sources from
 http://linux-vserver.derjohn.de/ first.

 I saw Debian unstable adopted util-vserver-0.30.208
 (http://packages.debian.org/unstable/net/util-vserver), but I'm want to
 use the stable branch. Should I mix?

I had no problem using the unstable branch for util-vserver. I needed it,
because the sarge-versions are simply too old.

I compiled a vanilla-kernel (2.6.12.6) with the patch-2.6.12.4-vs2.0.diff. I
did this the traditional way, but the debian-way (make-kpgk) should work
too. That way you have your packaged kernel (but I guess you knew that ;) ).
Btw: I used the original config from debian (/boot/config.xxx).

Then I compiled the sources from debian-sid for util-vserver. You can find a
short summary here:
http://linux-vserver.org/util-vserver+on+sarge

Using apt-get -t unstable should work too, but I preferred compiling it
myself. When a new version comes out, I simply patch a new kernel and make new
packages from sid's sources and dpkg -i them.

 To much decisions to make ...what's wise to do?

I'll have to meditate about this...

Daniel

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[Vserver] Re: Vserver newbie question

2005-09-14 Thread Matvey Gladkikh
On 14/09/05 10:39 +0200, [eMAXX] Sys-Admin wrote:
 I saw Debian unstable adopted util-vserver-0.30.208 
 (http://packages.debian.org/unstable/net/util-vserver), but I'm want to 
 use the stable branch. Should I mix?
 
no, I think you should backport 2.6.12 kernel from sid for using it on sarge
only.
 To much decisions to make ...what's wise to do?

other packeges I compile myself with the help of checkinstall for stable
distro. guest vservers should be updated by apt-get.

get 2.6.12 kernel-sources from sid
get patch vserver 2.6.12
cd /usr/src/2.6.12sources/
patch -p1  ./patch*
make oldconfig
make menuconfig (to enable some options)
make-kpkg --initrd kernel-image
dpkg -i ../kernel-image*.deb


tar xvfz util-vserver...tgz
cd util-vserver
./configure
checkinstall (you should apt-get install checkinstall first)
dpkg -i util-vserver*.deb

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[Vserver] Re: Vserver newbie question

2005-09-14 Thread Matvey Gladkikh
On 14/09/05 11:36 +0200, Daniel Kraft wrote:
  To much decisions to make ...what's wise to do?
 
 I'll have to meditate about this...
 
I will write down this :-)

Cheers, 
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Re: [Vserver] Re: Vserver newbie question

2005-09-14 Thread [eMAXX] Sys-Admin

Matvey Gladkikh wrote:


On 14/09/05 10:39 +0200, [eMAXX] Sys-Admin wrote:
 

I saw Debian unstable adopted util-vserver-0.30.208 
(http://packages.debian.org/unstable/net/util-vserver), but I'm want to 
use the stable branch. Should I mix?


   


no, I think you should backport 2.6.12 kernel from sid for using it on sarge
only.
 


To much decisions to make ...what's wise to do?
   



other packeges I compile myself with the help of checkinstall for stable
distro. guest vservers should be updated by apt-get.

get 2.6.12 kernel-sources from sid
get patch vserver 2.6.12
cd /usr/src/2.6.12sources/
patch -p1  ./patch*
make oldconfig
make menuconfig (to enable some options)
make-kpkg --initrd kernel-image
dpkg -i ../kernel-image*.deb


tar xvfz util-vserver...tgz
cd util-vserver
./configure
checkinstall (you should apt-get install checkinstall first)
dpkg -i util-vserver*.deb

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Ok ... let's start that install again :)  Whenever I get it to work, 
you'll notice it by my questions about the configuration ;)


Thanks a lot!

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[Vserver] Re: Vserver newbie question

2005-09-14 Thread Matvey Gladkikh
 Ok ... let's start that install again :)  Whenever I get it to work, 
 you'll notice it by my questions about the configuration ;)

Have you found vprocunhide script on your server?

apt-get install slocate
locate -u /
locate vprocunhide
/path/to/vprocunhide start

vserver-stat should work after that.
and your allready build vservers too.

cheers,
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Re: [Vserver] Re: Vserver newbie question

2005-09-14 Thread [eMAXX] Sys-Admin

Matvey Gladkikh wrote:


other packeges I compile myself with the help of checkinstall for stable
distro. guest vservers should be updated by apt-get.

get 2.6.12 kernel-sources from sid
get patch vserver 2.6.12
cd /usr/src/2.6.12sources/
patch -p1  ./patch*
make oldconfig
make menuconfig (to enable some options)
make-kpkg --initrd kernel-image
dpkg -i ../kernel-image*.deb

 

You're going to fast for me; as far as I can see, sid does not provide 
the 2.6.12 kernel-sources: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/allpackages
Would this be ok as well: 
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.12.4.tar.bz2 ?


This is exactly where it goes wrong with me ... I think I miss some 
basic experience to make a sane decision in these cases (right now I 
think there is no important difference between the two sources).


Whichone will it be?

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[Vserver] Re: Vserver newbie question

2005-09-14 Thread Matvey Gladkikh
On 14/09/05 13:26 +0200, [eMAXX] Sys-Admin wrote:
 You're going to fast for me; as far as I can see, sid does not provide 
 the 2.6.12 kernel-sources: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/allpackages
 Would this be ok as well: 
 http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.12.4.tar.bz2 ?
 
 This is exactly where it goes wrong with me ... I think I miss some 
 basic experience to make a sane decision in these cases (right now I 
 think there is no important difference between the two sources).

If you need debian kernel with .config from debian team you should download
prepatched sources 2.6.12 from debian sid.

You allso can download kernel.org kernel 2.6.12
in this case you should install apt-get install kernel-patch (smth like that)
and patch kernel sources with cramfs patch 
patch -p1  /usr/src/debian-patches(or smth like
that)/blablabla/fs.cramfs.diff

this is for make-kpkg --initrd kernel-image to produce initrd image
correctly.

after that you should patch with vserver kernel diff.

configure and compile kernel.

if you need I can give mine kernel 2.6.12 for sarge with utils and sources.
or you can use those on linux-vserver site (derjohn's)

 
 Whichone will it be?
 
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 Vincent Pluk
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Re: [Vserver] Re: Vserver newbie question

2005-09-14 Thread [eMAXX] Sys-Admin

Matvey Gladkikh wrote:


On 14/09/05 13:26 +0200, [eMAXX] Sys-Admin wrote:
 

You're going to fast for me; as far as I can see, sid does not provide 
the 2.6.12 kernel-sources: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/allpackages
   

Okey guess I made a mistake here, since there ARE kernel-source 
2.6.12 in sid :) they're just named different :S


kernel-source-2.6.11 (2.6.11-7)
 Linux kernel source for version 2.6.11 with Debian patches

linux-source-2.6.12 (2.6.12-6)
   Linux kernel source for version 2.6.12 with Debian patches


You allso can download kernel.org kernel 2.6.12
in this case you should install apt-get install kernel-patch (smth 
like that)

and patch kernel sources with cramfs patch
patch -p1  /usr/src/debian-patches(or smth like
that)/blablabla/fs.cramfs.diff

Ok, since I want to try to this option later, where is that cramfs 
patch? I asumed it should be in one of the debian patch-packages? I 
searched http://packages.debian.org/unstable/allpackages for a possible 
candidate... but nogo..


Regards,

Vincent Pluk
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