Re: [Vserver] The $64,000 dollar question

2007-08-03 Thread Roderick A. Anderson

Daniel Hokka Zakrisson wrote:

Roderick A. Anderson wrote:




So the big question is which (preferably YUM-able) distribution should I
use for the host?  I'm currently thinking CentOS 5 as it has an
end-of-life in about 5 years.  I hope to be retired by then. :-)  Plus I
believe I read that it is actually supported in Daniel's repository.


Unfortunately not, I haven't had enough round tuits lately, but you can
use the FC6 kernel RPM (though that is not as updated as I'd like it to
be, Fedora no longer updates the public tree) for now.


Daniel,

How about the util-vserver RPMs?  Can I build them for CentOS 5 from 
another distribution or does the tarball handle the distribution?



Rod
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Re: [Vserver] The $64,000 dollar question

2007-07-12 Thread Matt Paine





So the big question is which (preferably YUM-able) distribution should I
use for the host?  I'm currently thinking CentOS 5 as it has an
end-of-life in about 5 years.  I hope to be retired by then. :-)  Plus I
believe I read that it is actually supported in Daniel's repository.


Well I was thinking of the Fedora series.  But I'm liking CentOD more 
and more.




Hi Rod - I am using CentOS. Originally I used the FC RPM's provided by 
Daniel - they worked really well, except I was getting memory errors 
when trying to run wine.


Other than that it was running great.

In the meantime however I tried creating a vanilla (with vserver patch) 
kernel rpm, which is working fantastic (as soon as i get time i'm making 
it available to the public). This RPM will NOT have any of the centos 
specific patches (el5 patches). It will also be an updated kernel, not 
the original provided by centos.


What I'm saying is if you use the kernel, and want support from centos, 
you probably wont get it if you use the modified kernel. But for me I'm 
happy so far with the tests. I'll keep the list posted when I make them 
public. Then people can use them if they wish.



But back to the original question - whatever distro you use (for host) 
doesn't really matter, as long as it suits your purpose. You dont NEED 
to have a FC host to run FC guests, and you dont need to run FC guests 
under a FC host. As long as the guest support the running kernel of the 
  host, afaik you can can use whatever guests you want. There are 
distribution files available for lots of different guests and you can 
even create your own!


Hope this has been useful.

Matt.

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Re: [Vserver] The $64,000 dollar question

2007-07-11 Thread Roderick A. Anderson

Daniel Hokka Zakrisson wrote:

Roderick A. Anderson wrote:

Thanks to all for your help and suggestions on copying Vserver guests.
So far it has worked quite well.


I'm now on to newer things which brings me to the "question."  What
distribution should I use for the Host?

With Daniel's excellent repository(s) I have been using Fedora Core 5.
I has been very stable and makes any work in the host easy.  And then
the guests get FC5 which with vyum makes them very easy to to
maintain/enhance.
But I just went through a repository hell trying to update the host.
  Not sure what was going on but I suspect that with FC5 at end-of-life
this will happen more often.


"Repository hell"? Meaning what, exactly?


I was checking for updates "yum check-update" and got md5sum failure for 
twenty plus "extras" repositories before I walked off to do something 
else.  Came back so 10 minutes or more later and the check was done.



So the big question is which (preferably YUM-able) distribution should I
use for the host?  I'm currently thinking CentOS 5 as it has an
end-of-life in about 5 years.  I hope to be retired by then. :-)  Plus I
believe I read that it is actually supported in Daniel's repository.


Unfortunately not, I haven't had enough round tuits lately, but you can
use the FC6 kernel RPM (though that is not as updated as I'd like it to
be, Fedora no longer updates the public tree) for now.


Year I know about that.  I've been trying to figure out a way to 
counterfeit or steal them.  No luck so far.



   And does it make sense to use an _older_ distribution in the guests
that don't change much?


Sounds like the definition of an "enterprise"-distro, so CentOS should be
fine there too...


Well I was thinking of the Fedora series.  But I'm liking CentOD more 
and more.



Rod
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Re: [Vserver] The $64,000 dollar question

2007-07-11 Thread Daniel Hokka Zakrisson
Roderick A. Anderson wrote:
> Thanks to all for your help and suggestions on copying Vserver guests.
> So far it has worked quite well.
>
>
> I'm now on to newer things which brings me to the "question."  What
> distribution should I use for the Host?
>
> With Daniel's excellent repository(s) I have been using Fedora Core 5.
> I has been very stable and makes any work in the host easy.  And then
> the guests get FC5 which with vyum makes them very easy to to
> maintain/enhance.
> But I just went through a repository hell trying to update the host.
>   Not sure what was going on but I suspect that with FC5 at end-of-life
> this will happen more often.

"Repository hell"? Meaning what, exactly?

> So the big question is which (preferably YUM-able) distribution should I
> use for the host?  I'm currently thinking CentOS 5 as it has an
> end-of-life in about 5 years.  I hope to be retired by then. :-)  Plus I
> believe I read that it is actually supported in Daniel's repository.

Unfortunately not, I haven't had enough round tuits lately, but you can
use the FC6 kernel RPM (though that is not as updated as I'd like it to
be, Fedora no longer updates the public tree) for now.

>And does it make sense to use an _older_ distribution in the guests
> that don't change much?

Sounds like the definition of an "enterprise"-distro, so CentOS should be
fine there too...

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Re: [Vserver] The $64,000 dollar question

2007-07-11 Thread Ben Green
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 19:06:49 +0100, Roderick A. Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

>  And does it make sense to use an _older_ distribution in the guests that 
> don't change much?
>

I would have thought actively maintained security updates would be a priority 
for anyone, but your questions are distro questions, not really vserver 
questions.

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[Vserver] The $64,000 dollar question

2007-07-11 Thread Roderick A. Anderson
Thanks to all for your help and suggestions on copying Vserver guests. 
So far it has worked quite well.



I'm now on to newer things which brings me to the "question."  What 
distribution should I use for the Host?


With Daniel's excellent repository(s) I have been using Fedora Core 5. 
I has been very stable and makes any work in the host easy.  And then 
the guests get FC5 which with vyum makes them very easy to to 
maintain/enhance.
   But I just went through a repository hell trying to update the host. 
 Not sure what was going on but I suspect that with FC5 at end-of-life 
this will happen more often.


So the big question is which (preferably YUM-able) distribution should I 
use for the host?  I'm currently thinking CentOS 5 as it has an 
end-of-life in about 5 years.  I hope to be retired by then. :-)  Plus I 
believe I read that it is actually supported in Daniel's repository.


  And does it make sense to use an _older_ distribution in the guests 
that don't change much?



Thanks for your insights,
Rod
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