Re: Exporting/Converting Pages Doc to CMYK

2005-08-06 Thread Rob Davies

Hi Rhonda,

On 05/08/2005, at 3:04 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:



On 05/08/2005, at 6:55 AM, Rod Blitvich wrote:



Hi
Not being highly creative or intelligent, I used Apple's Pages  
software to
create the School Newlstter (with the aid of one of the great  
templates).
I exported it to PDF and took it to the printer who said the fonts  
and
resolution etc were all fine but he had to convert it from RGB to  
CMYK.
He showed me how some of the colours, particularly the blues, were  
out.


He said before I bring him the next Newsletter, I need to convert  
it to
CMYK. I have searched Pages and cannot find any option/preference/ 
export

feature that enables me to do this.

Any advice would be gratefully accepted please.

ta
Rod



Hi again people,

I've been 'messing around' with a 15 page Newsletter I did in Pages  
quite some time back.
I think I originally just printed the Newsletter and the result was  
great.


I'm using Tiger OSX10.4.2.
In Pages instead of Export, Choose  File  Print,  then click on  
PDF button,

choose 'Save As PDF-X'.

Would this PDF-X file be what a Printer would require?


Yes? In most circumstances and especially if just a black text -  
grayscale Newsletter. If CMYK I have been informed in most situations  
the below should work and the final conversion is just a guarantee of  
a CMYK PDF.


Assuming all graphics are converted to CMYK or defined spot colours,  
and resolution of graphics is adequate. I would save as PDF then  
through ColorSync - Create a PDFX-3 Document, from the quartz filters  
drop down box and your printer should be able to process without  
problems?


But as always, check with the final outputting source. The Printer,  
before starting job, and check printed output before signing off on job.


PDFX1a or 3  (PDF/X1-a or PDF/X3) are report compliance fail the job  
if not compliant standards. PDF/X is an ISO standard for graphic  
content exchange. Hence, ColorSync PDFX-3 Document filter is a  
Generic CMYK profile and verifier.


Of course Distiller and InDesign could be a better option as would  
Illustrator or Freehand, but one must make do with what tools are  
available. If it works for you thanks Apple for such a wonderful  
diverse-tool in ColorSync.


Cheers!
`Rob...


Re: Exporting/Converting Pages Doc to CMYK

2005-08-06 Thread Mervyn Giuliana Bond

Rod
I know it is great to use the applications that come with a new 
system but for my druthers I'd download the free for not for profit 
desktop publishing application Ragtime Solo  www.ragtime-online. com 
and use that.  Change your photographs as advised by others in 
Photoshop from RGB to CMYK, set the picture frame in Ragtime to CMYK 
and import your pictures.  If Rhonda's print suggestion converts the 
document to the required PDF then fine.  I am still with 10.2 and 
have no Adobe Distiller but can export the file as a postscript.  The 
printer converts to the required PDF and prints.  Output fine.

Merv


At 6:55 AM +0800 5/8/05, Rod Blitvich wrote:

Hi
Not being highly creative or intelligent, I used Apple's Pages software to
create the School Newlstter (with the aid of one of the great templates).
I exported it to PDF and took it to the printer who said the fonts and
resolution etc were all fine but he had to convert it from RGB to CMYK.
He showed me how some of the colours, particularly the blues, were out.

He said before I bring him the next Newsletter, I need to convert it to
CMYK. I have searched Pages and cannot find any option/preference/export
feature that enables me to do this.

Any advice would be gratefully accepted please.

ta
Rod
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Re: Exporting/Converting Pages Doc to CMYK

2005-08-06 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi Rob  people following the advice given to Rod Blitvich Re his  
School Newsletter,


On 06/08/2005, at 1:52 AM, Rob Davies wrote:


On 05/08/2005, at 3:04 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


On 05/08/2005, at 6:55 AM, Rod Blitvich wrote:


Hi
Not being highly creative or intelligent, I used Apple's Pages  
software to
create the School Newlstter (with the aid of one of the great  
templates).
I exported it to PDF and took it to the printer who said the  
fonts and
resolution etc were all fine but he had to convert it from RGB to  
CMYK.
He showed me how some of the colours, particularly the blues,  
were out.


He said before I bring him the next Newsletter, I need to convert  
it to
CMYK. I have searched Pages and cannot find any option/preference/ 
export

feature that enables me to do this.

Any advice would be gratefully accepted please.

ta
Rod




Hi again people,

I've been 'messing around' with a 15 page Newsletter I did in  
Pages quite some time back.
I think I originally just printed the Newsletter and the result  
was great.


I'm using Tiger OSX10.4.2.
In Pages instead of Export, Choose  File  Print,  then click on  
PDF button,

choose 'Save As PDF-X'.

Would this PDF-X file be what a Printer would require?



Yes? In most circumstances and especially if just a black text -  
grayscale Newsletter. If CMYK I have been informed in most  
situations the below should work and the final conversion is just a  
guarantee of a CMYK PDF.


Ok, my 15 page 'Newsletter' in Pages I have been using to Test  has  
Text  Images. Some pages mostly images.


1. The normal  File  Print  PDF looked perfect on Computer   
printed perfectly using Epson Printer (RGB).


2. The File  Print  click on PDF button 'Save As PDF-X' ... Text  
looks fine, but some sections of images are 'mottled'  (similar to a  
'interlaced' Muxed video clip) on the Computer.


3. Doing as Rob suggested - using the normal PDF  create a PDFX-3  
document, from the quartz filters drop down box.

This looks exactly the same as No. 2. 'Save as PDF-X'.

Presumably (without getting a Professional Printer to check), the PDF- 
X produced straight from Pages  Print  'Save as PDF-X' is the same  
result as creating PDFX-3 using ColorSync Utility app. No surprise  
here of course as ColorSync is doing the job from the Pages app.

Apple might have got this right.

To prove our point we need our original poster 'Rod Blitvich' to try  
his next School Newsletter in the 'Save As PDF-X' file and check with  
his Printer.


Cheers,
Ronni



Re: Exporting/Converting Pages Doc to CMYK

2005-08-06 Thread Rob Davies

Morning Merv,

Thanks for the information interesting looking application.

On 05/08/2005, at 4:28 PM, Mervyn  Giuliana Bond wrote:


Rod
I know it is great to use the applications that come with a new  
system but for my druthers I'd download the free for not for profit  
desktop publishing application Ragtime Solo  www.ragtime-online.  
com and use that.  Change your photographs as advised by others in  
Photoshop from RGB to CMYK, set the picture frame in Ragtime to  
CMYK and import your pictures.  If Rhonda's print suggestion  
converts the document to the required PDF then fine.  I am still  
with 10.2 and have no Adobe Distiller but can export the file as a  
postscript.  The printer converts to the required PDF and prints.   
Output fine.


That is the other option and a preferred one in some situations, to  
output from Print dialog box  PDF  save PDF as Postscript. But, it  
does not guarantee an Apple Pages document is CMYK as with Create  
PDFX-3 Document from Quartz filter drop down box does, apparently. As  
before check with the Source of your output.


Not sure if important, but check dpi of PDF/X-3 output might be and  
might not be significant, although it can be changed within  
ColorSync? Look at editing filters, in help.


Distiller creates output for printer,  ColorSync Utility is the  
colour profile guareenting what you see on screen should  replicate  
on paper. Does the job just fine in this situation and has some other  
useful tools also.


Ragtime-solo does a lot of the same as distiller in Export, I think  
it might be creating information for distiller which is why your  
printer has no problem with them, his end does processing. Great  
alternative program.


Thanks Merv

Cheers!
`Rob...



World of Warcraft (mac users)

2005-08-06 Thread alcrom

Hello.
Could any of the above game players contact me so we could make a West 
Australian guild or an Australian guild.

Should make game meetings easier due to time zone.

Regards from Alan.



WTD: Cheap ADB Wacom tablet

2005-08-06 Thread Rod

Hi All!

I am after a cheap ADB WACOM tablet.  There must be a pile of them  
lying in cupboards all over Perth!


Seeya

Rod!


Re: iTMS Japan

2005-08-06 Thread Andrew Nielsen

At 11:19 AM +0800 5/8/05, Rod wrote:
Unfortunately Sony/BMG has the monopoly on Australian artists too 
:-(  There won't be much content on iTMS au with out Sony :-p


Frankly, I don't care.  Although I have bought a lot of music by 
Australian artists on CD, I wish they would just bring on the ITMS 
Australia, regardless of whether Sony is signed on or not.


Of course, one can hope that Sony may eventually come on board but 
let's not be missing out on other content just because Sony hasn't 
got its act together in Australia.

--

Andrew Nielsen  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: iTMS Japan

2005-08-06 Thread Robert Howells


On 06/08/2005, at 4:25 PM, Andrew Nielsen wrote:


At 11:19 AM +0800 5/8/05, Rod wrote:
Unfortunately Sony/BMG has the monopoly on Australian artists too :-( 
 There won't be much content on iTMS au with out Sony :-p


Frankly, I don't care.  Although I have bought a lot of music by 
Australian artists on CD, I wish they would just bring on the ITMS 
Australia, regardless of whether Sony is signed on or not.


Of course, one can hope that Sony may eventually come on board but 
let's not be missing out on other content just because Sony hasn't got 
its act together in Australia.

--

Andrew Nielsen  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



AND  IF it did start in Aus without Sony/BMG the pressure would be on 
them to join in !


Nothing like a bit of COMPETITION  so I keep gettiing told .

Bob



Anti Virus Software

2005-08-06 Thread Stephen Chape

Hi folks,

I know this must sound a bit paranoid  but  well  you  
just never know.
I have Virex installed but my .Mac membership expired about 3 months  
ago.

I don't think the updates work any more because of this ??
Is this correct ? I can't see any way of actually checking.

I noticed someone recently recommending ClamXav.
I have downloaded it but have not yet installed it.
Would this be a good replacement for Virex ?
Or (if Virex still woks) a I better off staying with Virex ?

Regards,
Stephen Chape