Re: Calendars
Hi Severin, If you are NOT using iCloud; Go to System Preferences iCloud and 'Sign Out' See if that stops the Upgrading Calendars Cheers, Ronni On 30/07/2012, at 3:59 PM, Severin Crisp sevcr...@westnet.com.au wrote: When I start up in Mountain Lion a window opens and persists Upgrading Calendars. The progress bar never moves and it just stays there. My iCal is fine. I suspect this is to do with linking iCloud on which I have an account but make no use of as my only other device is a Snow Leopard Macbook. What is the fix? Maybe I can just cancel my iCloud account? What to do? Severin Crisp Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia. Phone (08) 9842 1950 (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) email mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Calendars
When I do that it tells me it will delete my calendar from this Mac but leave it available for others. What do I put aside to restore after the deletion? Severin On 30/07/2012, at 4:05 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Severin, If you are NOT using iCloud; Go to System Preferences iCloud and 'Sign Out' See if that stops the Upgrading Calendars Cheers, Ronni On 30/07/2012, at 3:59 PM, Severin Crisp sevcr...@westnet.com.au wrote: When I start up in Mountain Lion a window opens and persists Upgrading Calendars. The progress bar never moves and it just stays there. My iCal is fine. I suspect this is to do with linking iCloud on which I have an account but make no use of as my only other device is a Snow Leopard Macbook. What is the fix? Maybe I can just cancel my iCloud account? What to do? Severin Crisp Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia. Phone (08) 9842 1950 (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) email mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia. Phone (08) 9842 1950 (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) email mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Calendars
Don't sign out of iCloud then. I have to rush out now to deliver and setup a new computer for a client. I'll give your problem more thought when I return home. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad On 30/07/2012, at 4:43 PM, Severin Crisp sevcr...@westnet.com.au wrote: When I do that it tells me it will delete my calendar from this Mac but leave it available for others. What do I put aside to restore after the deletion? Severin On 30/07/2012, at 4:05 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Severin, If you are NOT using iCloud; Go to System Preferences iCloud and 'Sign Out' See if that stops the Upgrading Calendars Cheers, Ronni On 30/07/2012, at 3:59 PM, Severin Crisp sevcr...@westnet.com.au wrote: When I start up in Mountain Lion a window opens and persists Upgrading Calendars. The progress bar never moves and it just stays there. My iCal is fine. I suspect this is to do with linking iCloud on which I have an account but make no use of as my only other device is a Snow Leopard Macbook. What is the fix? Maybe I can just cancel my iCloud account? What to do? Severin Crisp Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia. Phone (08) 9842 1950 (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) email mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia. Phone (08) 9842 1950 (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) email mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Calendars
Thanks Ronni, no rush Severin On 30/07/2012, at 5:03 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Don't sign out of iCloud then. I have to rush out now to deliver and setup a new computer for a client. I'll give your problem more thought when I return home. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad On 30/07/2012, at 4:43 PM, Severin Crisp sevcr...@westnet.com.au wrote: When I do that it tells me it will delete my calendar from this Mac but leave it available for others. What do I put aside to restore after the deletion? Severin On 30/07/2012, at 4:05 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Severin, If you are NOT using iCloud; Go to System Preferences iCloud and 'Sign Out' See if that stops the Upgrading Calendars Cheers, Ronni On 30/07/2012, at 3:59 PM, Severin Crisp sevcr...@westnet.com.au wrote: When I start up in Mountain Lion a window opens and persists Upgrading Calendars. The progress bar never moves and it just stays there. My iCal is fine. I suspect this is to do with linking iCloud on which I have an account but make no use of as my only other device is a Snow Leopard Macbook. What is the fix? Maybe I can just cancel my iCloud account? What to do? Severin Crisp Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia. Phone (08) 9842 1950 (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) email mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia. Phone (08) 9842 1950 (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) email mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia. Phone (08) 9842 1950 (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) email mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Blast from the past
Many long time members will well remember Tony Stefanetti of Computer Trade Centre fame. Tony has been out of the business for five years now, but I got a phone call from him the other day. He has a large collection of legacy Macs (from the sound of things they are probably all pre-Intel) and before he sets the wheels in motion to dispose of them, he is wondering if there are any WAMUG members interested in taking some of them off his hands. If you are interested at all please let me know ASAP. Their days are numbered. Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Blast from the past
I remember this collection, he had all the early models. I think there was even a Lisa which was the first Mac I ever used. Diana Sent from my iPad On 31/07/2012, at 8:52 AM, Peter Hinchliffe hinch...@multiline.com.au wrote: Many long time members will well remember Tony Stefanetti of Computer Trade Centre fame. Tony has been out of the business for five years now, but I got a phone call from him the other day. He has a large collection of legacy Macs (from the sound of things they are probably all pre-Intel) and before he sets the wheels in motion to dispose of them, he is wondering if there are any WAMUG members interested in taking some of them off his hands. If you are interested at all please let me know ASAP. Their days are numbered. Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Calendars
Hi Severin, When you first opened Calendar.app after upgrading to Mountain Lion, did you allow it to complete Upgrading Calendars? I require more information on how you have Calendar.app setup how you have been syncing. The message you received when you 'Signed out of iCloud' indicates you have been and are using iCloud. Open Calendar.app Calendar Preferences Accounts - What do you have listed here, is it 'iCloud CalDAV'? Under Calendars (in Side column) - what Calendars do you have selected Subscriptions? Cheers, Ronni On 30/07/2012, at 5:11 PM, Severin Crisp sevcr...@westnet.com.au wrote: Thanks Ronni, no rush Severin On 30/07/2012, at 5:03 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Don't sign out of iCloud then. I have to rush out now to deliver and setup a new computer for a client. I'll give your problem more thought when I return home. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad On 30/07/2012, at 4:43 PM, Severin Crisp sevcr...@westnet.com.au wrote: When I do that it tells me it will delete my calendar from this Mac but leave it available for others. What do I put aside to restore after the deletion? Severin On 30/07/2012, at 4:05 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Severin, If you are NOT using iCloud; Go to System Preferences iCloud and 'Sign Out' See if that stops the Upgrading Calendars Cheers, Ronni On 30/07/2012, at 3:59 PM, Severin Crisp sevcr...@westnet.com.au wrote: When I start up in Mountain Lion a window opens and persists Upgrading Calendars. The progress bar never moves and it just stays there. My iCal is fine. I suspect this is to do with linking iCloud on which I have an account but make no use of as my only other device is a Snow Leopard Macbook. What is the fix? Maybe I can just cancel my iCloud account? What to do? Severin Crisp Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia. Phone (08) 9842 1950 (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) email mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Wednesday 12 September for new iPhone?
Hi Wamuggers, The rumours seem to be condensing to the one date for the launch of the new iPhone, and that is Wednesday 12 September. http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/12/07/30/rumor_more_sources_confrim_apples_sept_12_special_event.html Canadian Jim Dalrymple often seems to get inside information from some unknown sources so there may be truth in this rumour. There are also persistent rumours about a smaller iPad to be launched on the same day but that remains to be seen. Regards, Carlo Carlo Margio Real World Computing mob: 0404 296 965 i...@realworldcomputing.com.au www.realworldcomputing.com.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Wednesday 12 September for new iPhone?
Great news Carlo .. thank you ! Anything on the new iMacs yet? On 31/07/2012, at 10:24 AM, wa...@realworldcomputing.com.au wrote: Hi Wamuggers, The rumours seem to be condensing to the one date for the launch of the new iPhone, and that is Wednesday 12 September. http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/12/07/30/rumor_more_sources_confrim_apples_sept_12_special_event.html Canadian Jim Dalrymple often seems to get inside information from some unknown sources so there may be truth in this rumour. There are also persistent rumours about a smaller iPad to be launched on the same day but that remains to be seen. Regards, Carlo Carlo Margio Real World Computing mob: 0404 296 965 i...@realworldcomputing.com.au www.realworldcomputing.com.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug Regards, Stephen Chape -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Wednesday 12 September for new iPhone?
Hi Stephen, While the iPhone rumour is fairly solid, there are a number of murkier predictions / guesses / rumours about the iMacs. I can tell you what I have read but please don't make any plans based on it... There may (or may not) be some sort of screen production problems for new Ivy Bridge iMacs. As a result they may surface in October. Regards, Carlo Carlo Margio Real World Computing mob: 0404 296 965 i...@realworldcomputing.com.au www.realworldcomputing.com.au On 31/07/2012, at 10:45 , Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com wrote: Great news Carlo .. thank you ! Anything on the new iMacs yet? On 31/07/2012, at 10:24 AM, wa...@realworldcomputing.com.au wrote: Hi Wamuggers, The rumours seem to be condensing to the one date for the launch of the new iPhone, and that is Wednesday 12 September. http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/12/07/30/rumor_more_sources_confrim_apples_sept_12_special_event.html Canadian Jim Dalrymple often seems to get inside information from some unknown sources so there may be truth in this rumour. There are also persistent rumours about a smaller iPad to be launched on the same day but that remains to be seen. Regards, Carlo Carlo Margio Real World Computing mob: 0404 296 965 i...@realworldcomputing.com.au www.realworldcomputing.com.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug Regards, Stephen Chape -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Wednesday 12 September for new iPhone?
Thank you Carlo, Yes .. a few reports have pointed to October so I am just waiting it out. I just thought for a moment that iMac might be included on 12th September. Lost my crystal ball a few years back so I will just be patient ! On 31/07/2012, at 10:56 AM, wa...@realworldcomputing.com.au wrote: Hi Stephen, While the iPhone rumour is fairly solid, there are a number of murkier predictions / guesses / rumours about the iMacs. I can tell you what I have read but please don't make any plans based on it... There may (or may not) be some sort of screen production problems for new Ivy Bridge iMacs. As a result they may surface in October. Regards, Carlo Carlo Margio Real World Computing mob: 0404 296 965 i...@realworldcomputing.com.au www.realworldcomputing.com.au On 31/07/2012, at 10:45 , Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com wrote: Great news Carlo .. thank you ! Anything on the new iMacs yet? On 31/07/2012, at 10:24 AM, wa...@realworldcomputing.com.au wrote: Hi Wamuggers, The rumours seem to be condensing to the one date for the launch of the new iPhone, and that is Wednesday 12 September. http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/12/07/30/rumor_more_sources_confrim_apples_sept_12_special_event.html Canadian Jim Dalrymple often seems to get inside information from some unknown sources so there may be truth in this rumour. There are also persistent rumours about a smaller iPad to be launched on the same day but that remains to be seen. Regards, Carlo Carlo Margio Real World Computing mob: 0404 296 965 i...@realworldcomputing.com.au www.realworldcomputing.com.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug Regards, Stephen Chape -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug Regards, Stephen Chape -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Calendars
Yes, I did let it complete. The good news is that this morning it has seen the light and that message has vanished! Hallelujah! Yes, it is set up to Synch with iCloud in Preferences. When I uncheck Enable This Account, all my calendar information vanishes. Is it not also held locally? Severin On 31/07/2012, at 10:07 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Severin, When you first opened Calendar.app after upgrading to Mountain Lion, did you allow it to complete Upgrading Calendars? I require more information on how you have Calendar.app setup how you have been syncing. The message you received when you 'Signed out of iCloud' indicates you have been and are using iCloud. Open Calendar.app Calendar Preferences Accounts - What do you have listed here, is it 'iCloud CalDAV'? Under Calendars (in Side column) - what Calendars do you have selected Subscriptions? Cheers, Ronni On 30/07/2012, at 5:11 PM, Severin Crisp sevcr...@westnet.com.au wrote: Thanks Ronni, no rush Severin On 30/07/2012, at 5:03 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Don't sign out of iCloud then. I have to rush out now to deliver and setup a new computer for a client. I'll give your problem more thought when I return home. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad On 30/07/2012, at 4:43 PM, Severin Crisp sevcr...@westnet.com.au wrote: When I do that it tells me it will delete my calendar from this Mac but leave it available for others. What do I put aside to restore after the deletion? Severin On 30/07/2012, at 4:05 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Hi Severin, If you are NOT using iCloud; Go to System Preferences iCloud and 'Sign Out' See if that stops the Upgrading Calendars Cheers, Ronni On 30/07/2012, at 3:59 PM, Severin Crisp sevcr...@westnet.com.au wrote: When I start up in Mountain Lion a window opens and persists Upgrading Calendars. The progress bar never moves and it just stays there. My iCal is fine. I suspect this is to do with linking iCloud on which I have an account but make no use of as my only other device is a Snow Leopard Macbook. What is the fix? Maybe I can just cancel my iCloud account? What to do? Severin Crisp Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia. Phone (08) 9842 1950 (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) email mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia. Phone (08) 9842 1950 (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) email mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Blast from the past
Isn't there a Computer Museum at Wireless Hill or somewhere which would benefit from this? David 2012 Jul 31 === On 31 July 2012 09:24, Diana Graham Stevens diag...@iinet.net.au wrote: I remember this collection, he had all the early models. I think there was even a Lisa which was the first Mac I ever used. Diana Sent from my iPad On 31/07/2012, at 8:52 AM, Peter Hinchliffe hinch...@multiline.com.au wrote: Many long time members will well remember Tony Stefanetti of Computer Trade Centre fame. Tony has been out of the business for five years now, but I got a phone call from him the other day. He has a large collection of legacy Macs (from the sound of things they are probably all pre-Intel) and before he sets the wheels in motion to dispose of them, he is wondering if there are any WAMUG members interested in taking some of them off his hands. If you are interested at all please let me know ASAP. Their days are numbered. Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
