Re: Intergration
Thanks Stuart Sent from my iPad On 04/09/2011, at 9:53 AM, Stuart Evans stuart.ev...@t4.com.au wrote: Hi John, It all depends on that word Integration. Apple have dropped the Xserve as a product but still has a server operating system product - Lion OSX Server (as Ronni has just emailed). I would argue that Apple have not ever had an enterprise level server product (in terms of functionality and services) even though the Xserve was capable of such. I'm pretty sure one university had a massive number of Xserves set up as a super computer. You can still get a Mac Pro Server model or you can run OSX Server on any Mac - there is also a Mac Mini server model. There is talk that Apple are designing the Mac Pro to become rack mountable. However...in regard to integration Apple computers integrate into education and corporate environments very easily. The Active Directory plugin enables you to join to Windows networks and with Windows 2008 there has even been the capacity to manage preferences of Mac computers with MCX extensions. With some clever scripting you can even set up your Macs to login to the network and map to the same drives as the windows users are used to (ie H: drive and S: drive). We are currently doing this for businesses and schools. The majority of savvy Mac users don't even really need the scripting to enable access to drives or even printers. The main issue we come up against is in relation to the way OSX handles security such as kerberos tokens but I won't go to far into technical issues. That said, with Lion Apple broke some of the things that were working really well in relation to Active Directory domains and MCX preferences. I don't know if it is a bug or if it is a deliberate change. Apple do seem to be aiming at the individualised device (ie iPad) with Lion and iOS5, and that could be an issue for corporates or education where multiple users use a single device. I would say that in general we are seeing more companies and schools looking to integrate Apple than ever before and I don't see a focus on MS or PCs. After spending years spruiking Apple to schools and businesses an finally getting some success, my concern is that Apple's direction will disenchant many of the organisations that have sought to integrate Apple products. Hopefully that won't be the case. Cheers, Stuart On 4/09/11 8:35 AM, John Hatch j...@iinet.net.au wrote: I had a recent discussion with a college and he was saying that Apple was moving away from intergrating Apple products in to the corperation. They no longer have a server product. Is this the case? He was also saying that it is possible but the difficulty of doing it is causing companies to focus on PC's and MS products to achieve this. I am curious to know whatbthe local community thinks. Cheers John Sent from my iPad -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au Stuart Evans T4 Technology ALBANY Shop 6, 69 Lockyer Avenue, Albany, WA, 6330 T 08 9842 9660 F 08 9842 9664 E stuart.ev...@t4.com.au BUNBURY Unit 2/14 Rose Street, Bunbury, WA, 6230 T 08 9721 9660 F 08 9842 9664 P PLEASE CONSIDER THE ENVIRONMENT BEFORE YOU PRINT THIS E-MAIL _ IMPORTANT INFORMATION: DISCLAIMER This correspondence is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information or both. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mis-transmission. If you receive this correspondence in error, please immediately delete it from your system and notify the sender. You must not disclose, copy or rely on any part of this correspondence if you are not the intended recipient. Any opinions expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the opinions of T4 Technology. Neither the sender nor T4 Technology warrants that any communication via the Internet is free of errors, viruses, interception or interference. T4 Technology disclaims all liability and responsibility for any direct or indirect loss arising from this electronic mail and any attachments. Information is distributed without warranties of any kind. _ -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives -
Intergration
I had a recent discussion with a college and he was saying that Apple was moving away from intergrating Apple products in to the corperation. They no longer have a server product. Is this the case? He was also saying that it is possible but the difficulty of doing it is causing companies to focus on PC's and MS products to achieve this. I am curious to know whatbthe local community thinks. Cheers John Sent from my iPad -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Intergration
On 04/09/2011, at 8:35 AM, John Hatch wrote:I had a recent discussion with a college and he was saying that Apple was moving away from intergrating Apple products in to the corperation. They no longer have a server product. Is this the case? He was also saying that it is possible but the difficulty of doing it is causing companies to focus on PC's and MS products to achieve this. I am curious to know whatbthe local community thinks.Hi John,Apple Xserve is no longer available since January 2011.Transition options to deploy Mac OS X Server include Mac Pro with Snow Leopard Server and Mac mini with Snow Leopard Server and OS X Lion Serverwww.apple.com/serverhttp://images.apple.com/xserve/pdf/L422277A_Xserve_Guide.pdfhttp://support.apple.com/kb/HT1822Cheers,Ronni --TheWAMacintoshUserGroupMailingList-- Archives-http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines-http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe-mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au inline: favicon.ico17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HDOS X 10.6.8 Snow LeopardOS X 10.7 LionWindows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
Re: Intergration
Hi John, It all depends on that word Integration. Apple have dropped the Xserve as a product but still has a server operating system product - Lion OSX Server (as Ronni has just emailed). I would argue that Apple have not ever had an enterprise level server product (in terms of functionality and services) even though the Xserve was capable of such. I'm pretty sure one university had a massive number of Xserves set up as a super computer. You can still get a Mac Pro Server model or you can run OSX Server on any Mac - there is also a Mac Mini server model. There is talk that Apple are designing the Mac Pro to become rack mountable. However...in regard to integration Apple computers integrate into education and corporate environments very easily. The Active Directory plugin enables you to join to Windows networks and with Windows 2008 there has even been the capacity to manage preferences of Mac computers with MCX extensions. With some clever scripting you can even set up your Macs to login to the network and map to the same drives as the windows users are used to (ie H: drive and S: drive). We are currently doing this for businesses and schools. The majority of savvy Mac users don't even really need the scripting to enable access to drives or even printers. The main issue we come up against is in relation to the way OSX handles security such as kerberos tokens but I won't go to far into technical issues. That said, with Lion Apple broke some of the things that were working really well in relation to Active Directory domains and MCX preferences. I don't know if it is a bug or if it is a deliberate change. Apple do seem to be aiming at the individualised device (ie iPad) with Lion and iOS5, and that could be an issue for corporates or education where multiple users use a single device. I would say that in general we are seeing more companies and schools looking to integrate Apple than ever before and I don't see a focus on MS or PCs. After spending years spruiking Apple to schools and businesses an finally getting some success, my concern is that Apple's direction will disenchant many of the organisations that have sought to integrate Apple products. Hopefully that won't be the case. Cheers, Stuart On 4/09/11 8:35 AM, John Hatch j...@iinet.net.au wrote: I had a recent discussion with a college and he was saying that Apple was moving away from intergrating Apple products in to the corperation. They no longer have a server product. Is this the case? He was also saying that it is possible but the difficulty of doing it is causing companies to focus on PC's and MS products to achieve this. I am curious to know whatbthe local community thinks. Cheers John Sent from my iPad -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au Stuart Evans T4 Technology ALBANY Shop 6, 69 Lockyer Avenue, Albany, WA, 6330 T 08 9842 9660 F 08 9842 9664 E stuart.ev...@t4.com.au BUNBURY Unit 2/14 Rose Street, Bunbury, WA, 6230 T 08 9721 9660 F 08 9842 9664 P PLEASE CONSIDER THE ENVIRONMENT BEFORE YOU PRINT THIS E-MAIL _ IMPORTANT INFORMATION: DISCLAIMER This correspondence is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information or both. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mis-transmission. If you receive this correspondence in error, please immediately delete it from your system and notify the sender. You must not disclose, copy or rely on any part of this correspondence if you are not the intended recipient. Any opinions expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the opinions of T4 Technology. Neither the sender nor T4 Technology warrants that any communication via the Internet is free of errors, viruses, interception or interference. T4 Technology disclaims all liability and responsibility for any direct or indirect loss arising from this electronic mail and any attachments. Information is distributed without warranties of any kind. _ -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
iPod and Automobile intergration
Any one hear of this? Truly revolutionary, Hands free for iPod sort of. http://www.apple.com/ipod/bmw/ A dock of some description would be nice. Hate to see it in a 4WD off roading! Regards Christian -- NeoMail - Webmail that doesn't suck... as much. http://neomail.sourceforge.net
Re: iPod and Automobile intergration
Any one hear of this? Truly revolutionary, Hands free for iPod sort of. http://www.apple.com/ipod/bmw/ A dock of some description would be nice. Hate to see it in a 4WD off roading! Regards Christian I just want to see Apple list BMW's under 'iPod Accessories' at the Apple store :) Interestingly, Apple looks like they'll be doing it with other car manufacturers, as they're advertising a job position: ReqID: 2118478 - iPod In Car Hardware System Integrator Santa Clara Valley, CA, USA https://jobs.apple.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Employment.woa/wa/jobDescription?RequisitionID=2118478 (and they're still looking for a salesperson in Sydney :) Have fun, Shay -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer Join Team Sungroper in the Opinions for hire [POQ] 2005 World Solar Challenge [EMAIL PROTECTED] fnord http://sungroper.asn.au/
