[wdvltalk] Re: email hiding, might this work?

2004-01-17 Thread Jan
David, What is the code you're using? Jan David Blakey wrote: A few months ago, one of my clients put up a new site with the email addresses obfuscated by JavaScript, and with a set of new email addresses. Although they continue to get spam to their old email addresses, the new ones have had v

[wdvltalk] Re: email hiding, might this work?

2004-01-17 Thread hugo
Jan I use popfile which filters spam out pretty well and is easy to set up. I'm using it with Debian but there is a M$ version. On websites I use php mail forms. Julian - Original Message - From: "Jan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, 17 January 2004 9:34 Subj

[wdvltalk] Re: email hiding, might this work?

2004-01-17 Thread Jan
Rudy Thanks for the info. Surprisingly, I am not receiving spam at my [EMAIL PROTECTED], it's my [EMAIL PROTECTED] that has the spam problem. I know that my isp supposedly has a spam block option, but since I tried it and it didn't work well. I think I need to learn more about the spam blocker

[wdvltalk] Re: email hiding, might this work?

2004-01-17 Thread David Blakey
A few months ago, one of my clients put up a new site with the email addresses obfuscated by JavaScript, and with a set of new email addresses. Although they continue to get spam to their old email addresses, the new ones have had very little spam. So it does work. Incidentally, the developer

[wdvltalk] Re: email hiding, might this work?

2004-01-17 Thread rudy
> Do you think you are getting spam from your way of > displaying your email address? no i do get occasional spam, as someone pointed out, addressed to "sales" and "info" and "webmaster" -- these come from people scraping the whois listings, but this is pretty rare, ever since netsol implemented

[wdvltalk] Re: email hiding, might this work?

2004-01-17 Thread Jan
Thanks for the info on turning off javascript in my browser. I absolutely forgot about the scripts/plugins section. This will help me to view my own web pages. Jan rudy wrote: I don't know how to turn off JS in my Mozilla browser Edit > Preferences click on the "plus sign" beside Advanced

[wdvltalk] Re: email hiding, might this work?

2004-01-17 Thread Jan
rudy wrote: if javascript is disabled, they get what's in the NOSCRIPT tag -- Email: rudy at r937.com. Replies within 24 hours. Ok, yes you are right, if Javascript is turned off, the noscript info will show. Do you think you are getting spam from your way of displaying your email address? T

[wdvltalk] Re: email hiding, might this work?

2004-01-17 Thread rudy
> I don't know how to turn off JS in my Mozilla browser Edit > Preferences click on the "plus sign" beside Advanced in the left pane click on Scripts & Plugins uncheck the checkbox which enables javascript for navigator ta da thanks for making me walk through that i need to tweak the text

[wdvltalk] Re: email hiding, might this work?

2004-01-17 Thread rudy
> Rudy, if your code depends on JS and visitors have JS disabled, > how are they going to see and use the email address? perhaps our emails got crossed if javascript is disabled, they get what's in the NOSCRIPT tag -- Email: rudy at r937.com. Replies within 24 hours. • The WDVL Discuss

[wdvltalk] Re: email hiding, might this work?

2004-01-17 Thread Jan
BJ, I went to Rudy's contact.cfm page and viewed the source code of the page, I didn't view the page in php. The question I just sent to Rudy is regarding that he uses a JS code to obfuscate. I don't know how to turn off JS in my Mozilla browser, so I cannot view that page with JS turned off to

[wdvltalk] Re: email hiding, might this work?

2004-01-17 Thread rudy
> mailto:visions@jd; > visions.com"> > visions@jdv > isions.com > > The code shows my email address as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] i cannot show you one, i cannot name one, and it is only hearsay, but i've heard that there *are* spambots that can read that rudy • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL

[wdvltalk] Re: email hiding, might this work?

2004-01-17 Thread rudy
> Are you saying that your code can be read by visitors not using > javascript, and if so, are you saying that spambots cannot pick up your > email address by that code? look carefully i am using the standard that has been around ever since javascript was invented -- the NOSCRIPT tag yes, spambo

[wdvltalk] Re: email hiding, might this work?

2004-01-17 Thread Jan
rudy wrote: Rudy, I might have been mistaken about the code being ASCII, which code? The code that the email cloaker that was mentioned on this list and the one that I use. I believe it uses Javascript to create the code but the generated code is numbers. For example, this following emailcloaki

[wdvltalk] Re: email hiding, might this work?

2004-01-17 Thread Bj
- Original Message - From: "Jan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > do you guarantee that the code you spoke of earlier > won't be able to be read by the spambots? I tried :o) opening his page with php and reading the code, or doing a View Source, you just get the call to the JS function where the li

[wdvltalk] Re: email hiding, might this work?

2004-01-17 Thread rudy
> Rudy, I might have been mistaken about the code being ASCII, which code? i did not look at internet-marketing-forum.com because it's for members only > ... because it has numbers just like what you have > on your contact.cfm page. on my contact page, i have something completely different it

[wdvltalk] Re: email hiding, might this work?

2004-01-17 Thread Jan
Rudy, Rudy, I might have been mistaken about the code being ASCII, because it has numbers just like what you have on your contact.cfm page. BTW, do you guarantee that the code you spoke of earlier won't be able to be read by the spambots? Jan rudy wrote: spambots do know how to read ascii codes

[wdvltalk] Re: email hiding, might this work?

2004-01-17 Thread rudy
> ... the code is in ASCII form that you put on your html pages, > so even if visitors have their javascript turned off, ... spambots do know how to read ascii codes i would not consider this method safe at all granted, not all spambots, i'm sure, but some of them... you've locked the front doo

[wdvltalk] Re: email hiding, might this work?

2004-01-17 Thread Jan
Bj, Also, I forgot to mention that even though the email cloaker html page I sent you uses javascript to create the cloaking code, the code is in ASCII form that you put on your html pages, so even if visitors have their javascript turned off, the code still works. Jan Bj wrote: Thank you for

[wdvltalk] Re: Coding help

2004-01-17 Thread Jan
Hi Will DSL, WinXP Pro, Moz.1.5, 800x600 and 1024x768 Using Moz, I'm not getting a horizontal scrollbar at 800x600 or 1024x768, however at both resolutions, Mozilla shows an additional area on the top. Using IE 6.0, there is a horizontal scrollbar at both 800x600 and 1024x768, but IE 6.0 does n

[wdvltalk] Re: Coding help

2004-01-17 Thread Ross Clutterbuck
Will Not had chance to look properly but I did notice this: You open up the master table at 100% width and within your very first table row you have cells with widths specified as 169, 100%, 247 and 145 respectively. This adds up to over 100% your page width which I believe is what is causing you

[wdvltalk] Re: Coding help

2004-01-17 Thread rudy
> I looked at the source, and I looked at some of the CSS, > and I can't see it. > Sorry Will. me too looked long and hard, no luck thought it was the DIVs in the TD called "main", but it isn't noticed you have a misplaced LINK tag just ahead of the H1 in the page that does work, not that this

[wdvltalk] Re: Coding help

2004-01-17 Thread JimMenees
Will, off-list I sent you a screen print where I used a "show blocks" bookmarklet (from http://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/webdevel.html) to display all the blocks on your site. It appears that in the top row there's a big block with just a background image (a td cell?) that is pushing ev

[wdvltalk] Re: [SCR] http://www.interactwiththe.net/ict/

2004-01-17 Thread Ross Clutterbuck
> this page was his first attempt at a tableless css-only layout, and > on that basis, i think it's great It is?!?! I thought Matt had been XHTML+CSS for ages now! I stand corrected and applaud Matt for getting his first CSS only version better than anything I churned out for my first 3 months!

[wdvltalk] Re: Coding help

2004-01-17 Thread Gerrie Warner
looks great to me by Gosh! 1025 screen however ... BTW would you like to share the css code for just the links boxes thing? TIA! Gerrie www.osthammar.info can I get the css code - Original Message - From: "William Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, J

[wdvltalk] Re: email hiding, might this work?

2004-01-17 Thread Jan
Bj, Hi, this was on the list before. Although it's created using Javascript, it is an effective email cloaking code: http://www.internet-marketing-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2316 hth, Jan Bj wrote: Bored with the spam that comes from having a mailto: link on a Web page, I was toying with

[wdvltalk] Re: Coding help

2004-01-17 Thread Bj
- Original Message - From: "Tucson-WebDesign - Al Guevara" > WHAT ARE ALL THE PICS TO THE RIGHT? They're supposed to there, be down the right hand side of the page (see the second page link) but Will's problem is why there's all that extra white space pushing them off the screen. I loo

[wdvltalk] Re: Coding help

2004-01-17 Thread Tucson-WebDesign - Al Guevara
WHAT ARE ALL THE PICS TO THE RIGHT? At 1/17/2004 10:33 AM, you wrote: Hi everyone, When you can, take a look at: http://www.wstewart.com/designs/wvfamily/index.php For some reason, the page stretches past the browser edge in 800x600 and in 1024x768. I have looked at the code and can't find wh

[wdvltalk] Re: [SCR] http://www.interactwiththe.net/ict/

2004-01-17 Thread rudy
> Having looked at it hard now (in case I missed a serious revision > or I'm just wrong) I guess what I'm thinking is that the layout > looks a tad haphazrd - master of the universe, perhaps you did not realize, this page was his first attempt at a tableless css-only layout, and on that basis, i t

[wdvltalk] Re: [SCR] http://www.interactwiththe.net/ict/

2004-01-17 Thread Ross Clutterbuck
In response to Amanda and a pre-emptive apology to Matt: We've all got our own tastes and I'm not saying the absense of fancy graphics or intricate design makes the site in anyway a lesser piece of development, so sorry if I gave that impression. Having looked at it hard now (in case I missed a s

[wdvltalk] Coding help

2004-01-17 Thread William Stewart
Hi everyone, When you can, take a look at: http://www.wstewart.com/designs/wvfamily/index.php For some reason, the page stretches past the browser edge in 800x600 and in 1024x768. I have looked at the code and can't find what is wrong. If you check out: http://www.wstewart.com/designs/wvfamil

[wdvltalk] Re: [SCR] http://www.interactwiththe.net/ict/

2004-01-17 Thread Amanda Birmingham
Something's just wrong. Can't quite put my finger on it, but it's just...well...wrong. Looks bland, rushed and maybe even amateurish. I think you might need to rip it all out and start again. There's no arguing with taste, of course, but I have to say it didn't strike me that way ... I can see ho

[wdvltalk] Re: [SCR] http://www.interactwiththe.net/ict/

2004-01-17 Thread Ross Clutterbuck
I'm really not sure about this one Matt... Something's just wrong. Can't quite put my finger on it, but it's just...well...wrong. Looks bland, rushed and maybe even amateurish. I think you might need to rip it all out and start again. If your client it happy with it then I don't think you're pain

[wdvltalk] Re: [SCR] http://www.interactwiththe.net/ict/

2004-01-17 Thread Gerrie Warner
I think you need to dump it and start all over ... Subject: [wdvltalk] [SCR] http://www.interactwiththe.net/ict/ • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a persona

[wdvltalk] Re: email hiding, might this work?

2004-01-17 Thread the PuterBug
BJ, You could use this: http://www.hiveware.com however, found out that people that don't have js enabled will not be able to use it. So, instead many have resorted to things like these little freebie programs offer: http://www.codefoot.com/software/ecloaker/index.html http://www.damselsoft.