Re: [Web-SIG] Getting back to WSGI grass roots.

2009-09-23 Thread Armin Ronacher
Hi, Graham Dumpleton schrieb: So, rather than throw away completely the idea of bytes everywhere, and rewrite the WSGI specification, we could instead say that the existing conceptual idea of WSGI 1.0 is still valid, and just build on top of it a translation interface to present that as

Re: [Web-SIG] Getting back to WSGI grass roots.

2009-09-23 Thread Jim Fulton
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Graham Dumpleton graham.dumple...@gmail.com wrote: ... Anyway, that is the thought. Should we be looking at WSGI as a set of layers instead of assuming we have to push unicode into the gateway interface layer? +1 Jim -- Jim Fulton

Re: [Web-SIG] Getting back to WSGI grass roots.

2009-09-23 Thread And Clover
Graham wrote: So, rather than throw away completely the idea of bytes everywhere, and rewrite the WSGI specification, we could instead say that the existing conceptual idea of WSGI 1.0 is still valid, and just build on top of it a translation interface to present that as unicode. I don't

Re: [Web-SIG] Getting back to WSGI grass roots.

2009-09-23 Thread Etienne Robillard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 René Dudfield wrote: On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Aaron Watters arw1...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Wed, 9/23/09, Graham Dumpleton graham.dumple...@gmail.com wrote: So, rather than throw away completely the idea of bytes everywhere, and

Re: [Web-SIG] Getting back to WSGI grass roots.

2009-09-23 Thread Aaron Watters
--- On Wed, 9/23/09, René Dudfield ren...@gmail.com wrote: Application portability is the main wsgi use case.  I think that requires a number of things that wsgi doesn't provide - wsgi knows nothing of data stores for example.  Application portability is the main thing we should be

Re: [Web-SIG] Getting back to WSGI grass roots.

2009-09-23 Thread P.J. Eby
At 02:43 PM 9/23/2009 +1000, Graham Dumpleton wrote: Sorry, after having had a bit of think while eating lunch, I am going to throw up another point of view on this whole issue. So, sit back and be just a little bit concerned. WSGI stands for Web Server GATEWAY Interface. My understanding is

Re: [Web-SIG] Getting back to WSGI grass roots.

2009-09-23 Thread Graham Dumpleton
2009/9/24 P.J. Eby p...@telecommunity.com: Anyway, that is the thought. Should we be looking at WSGI as a set of layers instead of assuming we have to push unicode into the gateway interface layer? These are not mutually exclusive options.  However, the set of layers thing, if I'm

Re: [Web-SIG] Getting back to WSGI grass roots.

2009-09-23 Thread P.J. Eby
At 11:47 AM 9/24/2009 +1000, Graham Dumpleton wrote: After almost two years of trying to get WSGI for Python 3.0 to fly, I really do think it is time for me to give up. I did say a while back I would try one last push and this has been it. I'm sorry you feel that way, and I'm sorry if I

Re: [Web-SIG] Getting back to WSGI grass roots.

2009-09-23 Thread Randy Syring
P.J. Eby wrote: I, for one, *really* appreciate the work you put into all of this, as I previously commented on your blog post. And I really hope you'll hang in there. Thanks for all your hard work. +...15 or so :) My +s may not count for much, but they go to many others as well. I

Re: [Web-SIG] Getting back to WSGI grass roots.

2009-09-23 Thread Massimo Di Pierro
Hi Graham, Me being an outsider who contributed nothing to the process, I hope you'll reconsider. I really appreciate your work and I trusted the process more with you in it. Massimo On Sep 23, 2009, at 9:11 PM, P.J. Eby wrote: At 11:47 AM 9/24/2009 +1000, Graham Dumpleton wrote: After

[Web-SIG] Getting back to WSGI grass roots.

2009-09-22 Thread Graham Dumpleton
Sorry, after having had a bit of think while eating lunch, I am going to throw up another point of view on this whole issue. So, sit back and be just a little bit concerned. WSGI stands for Web Server GATEWAY Interface. My understanding is that right back at the beginning WSGI was purely