Re: [webkit-dev] Deprecating features guideline wiki

>>> BTW, the page at seems >>> to be using "deprecate" in the sense of "remove entirely". Is that what is >>> meant? If so, I think it would be helpful to change the wording to "removing >>> features". In non-Web contexts, deprecate often means a s

Re: [webkit-dev] Deprecating features guideline wiki

On Apr 29, 2012, at 1:18 PM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: > On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > On Apr 29, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: >> >> On Apr 27, 2012, at 6:29 PM, Dirk Pranke wrote: BTW, the p

Re: [webkit-dev] Deprecating features guideline wiki

On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > On Apr 29, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > >> >> On Apr 27, 2012, at 6:29 PM, Dirk Pranke wrote: >> >> BTW, the page at

Re: [webkit-dev] Deprecating features guideline wiki

On Apr 29, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > > On Apr 27, 2012, at 6:29 PM, Dirk Pranke wrote: >>> BTW, the page at seems >>> to be using "deprecate" in the sense of "remo

Re: [webkit-dev] Deprecating features guideline wiki

On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > > On Apr 27, 2012, at 6:29 PM, Dirk Pranke wrote: > > BTW, the page at seems > to be using "deprecate" in the sense of "remove entirely". Is that what is > meant? If so, I think it wou

Re: [webkit-dev] Deprecating features guideline wiki

On Apr 27, 2012, at 6:29 PM, Dirk Pranke wrote: > >> BTW, the page at seems to >> be using "deprecate" in the sense of "remove entirely". Is that what is >> meant? If so, I think it would be helpful to change the wording to "removing >> feat

Re: [webkit-dev] Deprecating features guideline wiki

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > > I think the concern is that, due to lack of clear standards, we end up not > knowing when we can remove things. Thus, we end up with a lot of inconclusive > and frustrating conversations, and people may shy away from even trying to >

Re: [webkit-dev] Deprecating features guideline wiki

Not having been to the meeting (but having read https://trac.webkit.org/wiki/DeprecatingFeatures), it struck me as though we were trying to add process (like we did for adding features last year), to deter deprecating things. On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Benjamin Poulain wrote: > On Fri, Apr

Re: [webkit-dev] Deprecating features guideline wiki

I think the concern is that, due to lack of clear standards, we end up not knowing when we can remove things. Thus, we end up with a lot of inconclusive and frustrating conversations, and people may shy away from even trying to remove things. BTW, the page at

Re: [webkit-dev] Deprecating features guideline wiki

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Eric Seidel wrote: > Is the concern that we've been deprecating too many things too quickly? Quite the contrary. People were concerned about the way to deprecate more stuff and making fewer mistakes when adding and removing features :)

Re: [webkit-dev] Deprecating features guideline wiki

Is the concern that we've been deprecating too many things too quickly? On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Benjamin Poulain wrote: > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Dirk Pranke wrote: >> That said, what sort of "officialness" does this >> writeup/guideline/policy have? Do all the ports agree that

Re: [webkit-dev] Deprecating features guideline wiki

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Dirk Pranke wrote: > That said, what sort of "officialness" does this > writeup/guideline/policy have? Do all the ports agree that this is > what our stance should be? Everyone seemed to agree we just need to discuss each deprecation on webkit-dev with solid suppo

Re: [webkit-dev] Deprecating features guideline wiki

Hi Julien, Thanks for the writeup! I definitely wanted to be in that discussion but it conflicted with another discussion I wanted to be in. It looks like I more or less agree with the writeup, though :). That said, what sort of "officialness" does this writeup/guideline/policy have? Do all the p

[webkit-dev] Deprecating features guideline wiki

Hi WebKittens, following the talk about "Deprecating (web-facing) features and vendor prefixing" [1], we decided to create a guideline covering new deprecations or un-prefixing [2]. The rationale is that this will avoid a lot of the mistakes that we have made in the previous deprecations and that