[webkit-dev] HbbTV support within Webkit

2012-10-08 Thread Mark Toller
Hi, I'd like to ask the Webkit developers their opinion on providing some support for HbbTV [1] within Webkit. Hybrid Broadcast Broadband TV or HbbTV, is a major new pan-European initiative aimed at harmonising the broadcast and broadband delivery of entertainment to the end consumer through

[webkit-dev] Discussing bug 98539 - Refactor resource loading to allow for out-of-process loading and memory caching

2012-10-08 Thread Brady Eidson
A bit of background: A few of us have been working on enhancing WebKit2's support for multiple WebProcesses. As part of this effort I'm working on https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98537 - Add a NetworkProcess to WebKit2 One benefit of the NetworkProcess will be to have a single shared

Re: [webkit-dev] HbbTV support within Webkit

2012-10-08 Thread Martin Robinson
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:11 AM, Mark Toller mark.tol...@samsung.com wrote: I know that support requests for CE-HTML have been briefly touched upon in the past. As I understand it, the main objection to providing support within WebKit is that the CE-HTML specification is not freely available,

Re: [webkit-dev] Discussing bug 98539 - Refactor resource loading to allow for out-of-process loading and memory caching

2012-10-08 Thread Jochen Eisinger
Hey, can you share your plan how to prioritize network requests in the network process? It's a long standing issue of the chromium port (and I believe the blackberry port is affected as well) that a ResourceRequest doesn't know whether it was created for e.g. an XHR or a main document load,

Re: [webkit-dev] Discussing bug 98539 - Refactor resource loading to allow for out-of-process loading and memory caching

2012-10-08 Thread Adam Barth
When we looked at whether we should add a shared memory cache to Chromium, we came to the conclusion that there wasn't much benefit to having a shared memory cache. In https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98541#c4, you mentioned that you have data showing that a shared memory cache is a win.

Re: [webkit-dev] HbbTV support within Webkit

2012-10-08 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:11 AM, Mark Toller mark.tol...@samsung.comwrote: ** I'd like to ask the Webkit developers their opinion on providing some support for HbbTV [1] within Webkit. By some support, what exactly do you mean? Our lab, Samsung Electronics Research Institute (SERI), has

Re: [webkit-dev] Discussing bug 98539 - Refactor resource loading to allow for out-of-process loading and memory caching

2012-10-08 Thread Brady Eidson
On Oct 8, 2012, at 10:58 AM, Adam Barth aba...@webkit.org wrote: When we looked at whether we should add a shared memory cache to Chromium, we came to the conclusion that there wasn't much benefit to having a shared memory cache. In https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98541#c4, you

Re: [webkit-dev] Discussing bug 98539 - Refactor resource loading to allow for out-of-process loading and memory caching

2012-10-08 Thread Brady Eidson
On Oct 8, 2012, at 10:52 AM, Jochen Eisinger joc...@chromium.org wrote: Hey, can you share your plan how to prioritize network requests in the network process? … We currently work around that issue by adding a TargetType to ResourceRequest which is however a layering violation which

Re: [webkit-dev] Discussing bug 98539 - Refactor resource loading to allow for out-of-process loading and memory caching

2012-10-08 Thread Adam Barth
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Brady Eidson beid...@apple.com wrote: On Oct 8, 2012, at 10:58 AM, Adam Barth aba...@webkit.org wrote: When we looked at whether we should add a shared memory cache to Chromium, we came to the conclusion that there wasn't much benefit to having a shared memory

Re: [webkit-dev] Discussing bug 98539 - Refactor resource loading to allow for out-of-process loading and memory caching

2012-10-08 Thread Alexey Proskuryakov
08.10.2012, в 11:23, Brady Eidson beid...@apple.com написал(а): On a slightly different note it seems reasonable to me that a WebCore ResourceRequest have target-type/priority-type information attached to it. I don't know if doing that has come up in the past and different conclusions we

Re: [webkit-dev] HbbTV support within Webkit

2012-10-08 Thread Adam Barth
From your message, it sounds like HbbTV is still not an open standard. I'm skeptical that we should support closed standards in WebKit. Adam On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:11 AM, Mark Toller mark.tol...@samsung.com wrote: Hi, I'd like to ask the Webkit developers their opinion on providing some

Re: [webkit-dev] Discussing bug 98539 - Refactor resource loading to allow for out-of-process loading and memory caching

2012-10-08 Thread Brady Eidson
On Oct 8, 2012, at 11:24 AM, Adam Barth aba...@webkit.org wrote: On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Brady Eidson beid...@apple.com wrote: On Oct 8, 2012, at 10:58 AM, Adam Barth aba...@webkit.org wrote: When we looked at whether we should add a shared memory cache to Chromium, we came to the

[webkit-dev] CSS Exclusions: Implementing shape-outside for floats (bug 98664)

2012-10-08 Thread Bem Jones-Bey
Hi all, We've been working on implementing the CSS Exclusions Spec (http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-exclusions/) here at Adobe. As part of that effort, I am beginning work on implementing support for shape-outside (http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-exclusions/#shape-outside-property) on floats

Re: [webkit-dev] Discussing bug 98539 - Refactor resource loading to allow for out-of-process loading and memory caching

2012-10-08 Thread Adam Barth
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Brady Eidson beid...@apple.com wrote: On Oct 8, 2012, at 11:24 AM, Adam Barth aba...@webkit.org wrote: On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Brady Eidson beid...@apple.com wrote: On Oct 8, 2012, at 10:58 AM, Adam Barth aba...@webkit.org wrote: When we looked at

[webkit-dev] Adding ENABLE_HIDDEN_PAGE_DOM_TIMER_THROTTLING to WebCore

2012-10-08 Thread Kiran Muppala
Hi webkit-dev, I wanted to let you know that I plan to add a feature to support throttling of DOM timers on hidden pages to WebKit. This support will be hidden behind the ENABLE_HIDDEN_PAGE_DOM_TIMER_THROTTLING feature define. See: https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98474 The way it

Re: [webkit-dev] Proposal: WTF HashMap iterators to use key/value instead first/second

2012-10-08 Thread Caio Marcelo de Oliveira Filho
Hello, Follow up: this change landed in http://trac.webkit.org/changeset/130612. Cheers, -- Caio Marcelo de Oliveira Filho openBossa @ INdT - Instituto Nokia de Tecnologia ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org

[webkit-dev] New WebKit Reviewer: Caio Marcelo de Oliveira Filho

2012-10-08 Thread noam . rosenthal
I am pleased to announce that Caio (@cmarcelo) is now a WebKit reviewer. Caio has been working in many areas in the past years, starting with focus on the Qt port with improvements to the Qt/JS bridge, font test results and render-theme. More recently has also work on the UndoManager and other

Re: [webkit-dev] Discussing bug 98539 - Refactor resource loading to allow for out-of-process loading and memory caching

2012-10-08 Thread Brady Eidson
On Oct 8, 2012, at 12:17 PM, Adam Barth aba...@webkit.org wrote: On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Brady Eidson beid...@apple.com wrote: On Oct 8, 2012, at 11:24 AM, Adam Barth aba...@webkit.org wrote: On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Brady Eidson beid...@apple.com wrote: On Oct 8, 2012, at

Re: [webkit-dev] New WebKit Reviewer: Caio Marcelo de Oliveira Filho

2012-10-08 Thread Rafael Brandao
Congratulations Caio! :-) Regards, Rafael On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 6:20 PM, noam.rosent...@nokia.com wrote: I am pleased to announce that Caio (@cmarcelo) is now a WebKit reviewer. Caio has been working in many areas in the past years, starting with focus on the Qt port with improvements to

Re: [webkit-dev] New WebKit Reviewer: Caio Marcelo de Oliveira Filho

2012-10-08 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
Congratulations, Caio! On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 2:20 PM, noam.rosent...@nokia.com wrote: I am pleased to announce that Caio (@cmarcelo) is now a WebKit reviewer. Caio has been working in many areas in the past years, starting with focus on the Qt port with improvements to the Qt/JS bridge, font

Re: [webkit-dev] New WebKit Reviewer: Caio Marcelo de Oliveira Filho

2012-10-08 Thread Kenneth Rohde Christiansen
Congrats! On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:20 PM, noam.rosent...@nokia.com wrote: I am pleased to announce that Caio (@cmarcelo) is now a WebKit reviewer. Caio has been working in many areas in the past years, starting with focus on the Qt port with improvements to the Qt/JS bridge, font test

Re: [webkit-dev] New WebKit Reviewer: Caio Marcelo de Oliveira Filho

2012-10-08 Thread Alexis Menard
Congrats! On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Alexis Menard men...@kde.org wrote: Congrats! On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Kenneth Rohde Christiansen kenneth.christian...@gmail.com wrote: Congrats! On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:20 PM, noam.rosent...@nokia.com wrote: I am pleased to announce

Re: [webkit-dev] New WebKit Reviewer: Caio Marcelo de Oliveira Filho

2012-10-08 Thread Bruno Abinader
Congratulations Caio! :D On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:20 PM, noam.rosent...@nokia.com wrote: I am pleased to announce that Caio (@cmarcelo) is now a WebKit reviewer. Caio has been working in many areas in the past years, starting with focus on the Qt port with improvements to the Qt/JS bridge,

Re: [webkit-dev] HbbTV support within Webkit

2012-10-08 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
Adding support for custom variants of HTML is not really in line with the goals of the WebKit project. It sounds like CE-HTML and OIPF are both HTML variants. I don't think these types of features are a good fit for WebKit, because: (1) Custom HTML dialects tend to create excessive maintenance

Re: [webkit-dev] Discussing bug 98539 - Refactor resource loading to allow for out-of-process loading and memory caching

2012-10-08 Thread Adam Barth
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Brady Eidson beid...@apple.com wrote: On Oct 8, 2012, at 12:17 PM, Adam Barth aba...@webkit.org wrote: On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Brady Eidson beid...@apple.com wrote: On Oct 8, 2012, at 11:24 AM, Adam Barth aba...@webkit.org wrote: On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at

Re: [webkit-dev] Discussing bug 98539 - Refactor resource loading to allow for out-of-process loading and memory caching

2012-10-08 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Oct 8, 2012, at 5:28 PM, Adam Barth aba...@webkit.org wrote: On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Brady Eidson beid...@apple.com wrote: On Oct 8, 2012, at 12:17 PM, Adam Barth aba...@webkit.org wrote: Would there be any design or implementation constraints on WebCore? For example, would

Re: [webkit-dev] New WebKit Reviewer: Caio Marcelo de Oliveira Filho

2012-10-08 Thread Zoltan Horvath
Cool! Congratulations Caio! On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 2:20 PM, noam.rosent...@nokia.com wrote: I am pleased to announce that Caio (@cmarcelo) is now a WebKit reviewer. Caio has been working in many areas in the past years, starting with focus on the Qt port with improvements to the Qt/JS bridge,