Re: [webkit-dev] Ports not building as C++11?

2013-07-28 Thread Brent Fulgham
We can support auto and move semantics.  We cannot support ranged iterators 
until VS2012.

But at least it's a step in the right direction...

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On Jul 28, 2013, at 2:36 PM, Oliver Hunt  wrote:

> So wait, is everyone using C++11 now?
> 
> I dream of using auto…
> 
> :-D
> 
> On Jul 28, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Gergely Kis  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Allan Sandfeld Jensen  
>> wrote:
>>> became required in WebKit2. The only fallout will likely be the loss of the 
>>> Qt
>>> MIPS bot which is maintained by a third party and is too old.
>> The MIPS bot was updated to Debian Wheezy and GCC 4.7.2 a few weeks
>> ago, I just forgot to update the buildbot slave info file, did it now.
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> Gergely
>> the 3rd party maintaining the MIPS bot :)
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Re: [webkit-dev] Ports not building as C++11?

2013-07-28 Thread Oliver Hunt
So wait, is everyone using C++11 now?

I dream of using auto…

:-D

On Jul 28, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Gergely Kis  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Allan Sandfeld Jensen  
> wrote:
>> became required in WebKit2. The only fallout will likely be the loss of the 
>> Qt
>> MIPS bot which is maintained by a third party and is too old.
>> 
> The MIPS bot was updated to Debian Wheezy and GCC 4.7.2 a few weeks
> ago, I just forgot to update the buildbot slave info file, did it now.
> 
> Best Regards,
> Gergely
> the 3rd party maintaining the MIPS bot :)
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Re: [webkit-dev] Ports not building as C++11?

2013-07-28 Thread Gergely Kis
Hi,

On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Allan Sandfeld Jensen  
wrote:
> became required in WebKit2. The only fallout will likely be the loss of the Qt
> MIPS bot which is maintained by a third party and is too old.
>
The MIPS bot was updated to Debian Wheezy and GCC 4.7.2 a few weeks
ago, I just forgot to update the buildbot slave info file, did it now.

Best Regards,
Gergely
the 3rd party maintaining the MIPS bot :)
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Re: [webkit-dev] Ports not building as C++11?

2013-07-28 Thread Allan Sandfeld Jensen
On Saturday 27 July 2013, Allan Sandfeld Jensen wrote:
> On Friday 26 July 2013, Anders Carlsson wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> > 
> > when Oliver landed his “let’s break everything” patches in JSC the other
> > day, I noticed that some of the follow-up build fixes by other ports were
> > removing use of C++11 features (mainly nullptr).
> > 
> > Are there any ports that aren’t building as C++11? If so, why not?
> 
> Yes, and because C++11 is not supported on all the platforms we support. We
> don't all have the option to not care about the platforms of a certain
> fruit themed vendor's 1 or 2 year old operating systems.
> 
I apologize for that comment. It was not meant seriously, and is much more 
antagonizing than funny, so please forget I ever wrote that.

On a serious note, we have nothing blocking activating C++11 in the Qt port of 
WebKit. I prepared WTF and WebCore for C++11 with GCC months ago, and we 
dropped support for platforms where it isn't available from support when C++11 
became required in WebKit2. The only fallout will likely be the loss of the Qt 
MIPS bot which is maintained by a third party and is too old. 

Regards
`Allan
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Re: [webkit-dev] Adding ENABLE_CSS_DIRECTIONAL_FOCUS to WebCore.

2013-07-28 Thread Carlos Garcia Campos
El vie, 26-07-2013 a las 20:07 -0700, Benjamin Poulain escribió:
> On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 1:57 AM, Mario Sanchez Prada <
> mario.pr...@samsung.com> wrote:
> 
> > > Ah, When I made a new patch, had doubts about the file name "Deprecated".
> > > So, I have to wait the "StyleBuilder" Class to have a clear form.
> >
> > On this regard, some input from Dirk Schulze could probably be very useful
> > as guidance here, as he was the original author of the commit where this
> > class got deprecated[1].
> >
> 
> It is a work in progress to clean the StyleBuilder.
> 
> 
> > > Also, I'm waiting for the community to conclude this discussion.
> >
> > Me too.
> >
> 
> Honestly, I am concerned that no one in favor of this feature is a regular
> contributor.

Mario has volunteered to maintain this feature, or do you really mean
Mario is not a regular contributor?

> The feature does not seem very invasive so if some people really invest
> time in maturing this, it could be worth experimenting with this and
> provide feedback to the W3C working group.
> I think everything should be behind a feature flag, and have the -webkit-
> prefix. As usual with experimental features, you will have to remove it if
> it turns out the experiment is not successful.
> 
> Benjamin
> On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 1:57 AM, Mario Sanchez Prada
>  wrote:
> > Ah, When I made a new patch, had doubts about the file name
> "Deprecated".
> > So, I have to wait the "StyleBuilder" Class to have a clear
> form.
> 
> 
> On this regard, some input from Dirk Schulze could probably be
> very useful
> as guidance here, as he was the original author of the commit
> where this
> class got deprecated[1].
> 
> 
> It is a work in progress to clean the StyleBuilder.
>  
> > Also, I'm waiting for the community to conclude this
> discussion.
> 
> 
> Me too.
> 
> 
> Honestly, I am concerned that no one in favor of this feature is a
> regular contributor.
> 
> 
> The feature does not seem very invasive so if some people really
> invest time in maturing this, it could be worth experimenting with
> this and provide feedback to the W3C working group.
> I think everything should be behind a feature flag, and have the
> -webkit- prefix. As usual with experimental features, you will have to
> remove it if it turns out the experiment is not successful.
> 
> 
> Benjamin
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Re: [webkit-dev] Adding ENABLE_CSS_DIRECTIONAL_FOCUS to WebCore.

2013-07-28 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 12:27 AM, Glenn Adams  wrote:

>
> On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Benjamin Poulain wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 1:57 AM, Mario Sanchez Prada <
>> mario.pr...@samsung.com> wrote:
>>
>>> > Ah, When I made a new patch, had doubts about the file name
>>> "Deprecated".
>>> > So, I have to wait the "StyleBuilder" Class to have a clear form.
>>>
>>> On this regard, some input from Dirk Schulze could probably be very
>>> useful
>>> as guidance here, as he was the original author of the commit where this
>>> class got deprecated[1].
>>>
>>
>> It is a work in progress to clean the StyleBuilder.
>>
>>
>>>  > Also, I'm waiting for the community to conclude this discussion.
>>>
>>> Me too.
>>>
>>
>> Honestly, I am concerned that no one in favor of this feature is a
>> regular contributor.
>>
>> The feature does not seem very invasive so if some people really invest
>> time in maturing this, it could be worth experimenting with this and
>> provide feedback to the W3C working group.
>> I think everything should be behind a feature flag, and have the -webkit-
>> prefix. As usual with experimental features, you will have to remove it if
>> it turns out the experiment is not successful.
>>
>
> I wouldn't characterize the nav-* properties as experimental, given their
> fairly widespread implementation among Television oriented profiles of
> HTML/CSS, going back at least to 1999 [1]. See also specifications from
> 2001 and 2003 [2][3].
>
> As such, it seems somewhat questionable to use a -webkit- prefix.
>

If we're not prefixing it, then it's very important for the initial
implementation to pass all compatibility tests W3C and/or it matches other
vendors' implementations.

- R. Niwa
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Re: [webkit-dev] Adding ENABLE_CSS_DIRECTIONAL_FOCUS to WebCore.

2013-07-28 Thread Glenn Adams
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Benjamin Poulain wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 1:57 AM, Mario Sanchez Prada <
> mario.pr...@samsung.com> wrote:
>
>> > Ah, When I made a new patch, had doubts about the file name
>> "Deprecated".
>> > So, I have to wait the "StyleBuilder" Class to have a clear form.
>>
>> On this regard, some input from Dirk Schulze could probably be very useful
>> as guidance here, as he was the original author of the commit where this
>> class got deprecated[1].
>>
>
> It is a work in progress to clean the StyleBuilder.
>
>
>>  > Also, I'm waiting for the community to conclude this discussion.
>>
>> Me too.
>>
>
> Honestly, I am concerned that no one in favor of this feature is a regular
> contributor.
>
> The feature does not seem very invasive so if some people really invest
> time in maturing this, it could be worth experimenting with this and
> provide feedback to the W3C working group.
> I think everything should be behind a feature flag, and have the -webkit-
> prefix. As usual with experimental features, you will have to remove it if
> it turns out the experiment is not successful.
>

I wouldn't characterize the nav-* properties as experimental, given their
fairly widespread implementation among Television oriented profiles of
HTML/CSS, going back at least to 1999 [1]. See also specifications from
2001 and 2003 [2][3].

As such, it seems somewhat questionable to use a -webkit- prefix.

[1]
http://www.arib.or.jp/english/html/overview/archives/br/ARIB_STD-B24-2_2of2_v5.1_E1.pdf

[2] http://www.atsc.org/cms/standards/a100/a_100_2.pdf
[3]
http://my.safaribooksonline.com/book/digital-media/9780240806662/15-building-applications-with-html/s235_xhtml
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