Re: [webkit-dev] Experimental features enabled at runtime

2016-11-05 Thread Brady Eidson
> On Nov 5, 2016, at 6:18 PM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > On Sat, 2016-11-05 at 16:03 -0700, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: >> Maybe what we really need is one set of defaults that are appropriate >>> for development (our bots, ENABLE(DEVELOPER_MODE), Safari Tech >> Preview, >>>

Re: [webkit-dev] Experimental features enabled at runtime

2016-11-05 Thread Brady Eidson
> On Nov 5, 2016, at 3:52 PM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > Hi Brady! > > On Sat, 2016-11-05 at 11:04 -0700, Brady Eidson wrote: >> This has come up in Apple, where some people assume that the fact >> they're called "Experimental" features means they are still under >>

Re: [webkit-dev] Experimental features enabled at runtime

2016-11-05 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sat, 2016-11-05 at 16:03 -0700, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: > Maybe what we really need is one set of defaults that are appropriate > > for development (our bots, ENABLE(DEVELOPER_MODE), Safari Tech > Preview, > > etc.) and a different set of defaults that are appropriate for > stable > > releases and

Re: [webkit-dev] Experimental features enabled at runtime

2016-11-05 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Sat, Nov 5, 2016 at 3:52 PM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > Hi Brady! > > On Sat, 2016-11-05 at 11:04 -0700, Brady Eidson wrote: > > This has come up in Apple, where some people assume that the fact > > they're called "Experimental" features means they are still under > >

Re: [webkit-dev] Experimental features enabled at runtime

2016-11-05 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Hi Brady! On Sat, 2016-11-05 at 11:04 -0700, Brady Eidson wrote: > This has come up in Apple, where some people assume that the fact > they're called "Experimental" features means they are still under > heavy development or in some way unstable or potentially harmful. > > I don't believe that is

[webkit-dev] Please hold off on commits

2016-11-05 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
Hello everyone, At Apple, we are experiencing an unplanned outage in our continuous integration lab. This interferes with proper functioning buildbots, performance tests and EWS. Currently we expect the outage will last throughout the weekend and possibly into early next week. Last time we

Re: [webkit-dev] Experimental features enabled at runtime

2016-11-05 Thread Brady Eidson
> On Nov 5, 2016, at 6:13 AM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > Hi, > > We discovered that several experimental features are currently enabled > by default: > > https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164367 > ... > These features are not ready to be default, or they

[webkit-dev] Experimental features enabled at runtime

2016-11-05 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Hi, We discovered that several experimental features are currently enabled by default: https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164367 It looks like the change was made to avoid needing to enable the features manually in Safari Tech Preview, but of course this is bad for all the non-Safari