Re: [webkit-dev] Out-of-process networking and potential for sharing memory cache (was Re: Feature Announcement: Moving HTML Parser off the Main Thread)

2013-01-22 Thread Sergio Villar Senin
En 22/01/13 09:52, Maciej Stachowiak escribiu: >> That'd be awesome, at least an overview document that could help people >> to understand the whole picture and the main advantages/drawbacks of the >> selected design. > > What topics are you interested in? I could probably write decent explanation

Re: [webkit-dev] Out-of-process networking and potential for sharing memory cache (was Re: Feature Announcement: Moving HTML Parser off the Main Thread)

2013-01-22 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Jan 22, 2013, at 12:17 AM, Sergio Villar Senin wrote: > En 21/01/13 23:07, Maciej Stachowiak escribiu: >> >> On Jan 21, 2013, at 11:23 AM, Adam Barth wrote: >> >> Thanks, Adam. It's fine to pick up the conversation later, and we're >> certainly open to iterating beyond what we do first. >

Re: [webkit-dev] Out-of-process networking and potential for sharing memory cache (was Re: Feature Announcement: Moving HTML Parser off the Main Thread)

2013-01-22 Thread Sergio Villar Senin
En 21/01/13 23:07, Maciej Stachowiak escribiu: > > On Jan 21, 2013, at 11:23 AM, Adam Barth wrote: > >> Some folks have pointed out to me off thread that I'm coming off as >> angry and harsh. I would like to apologize for my tone. >> >> My goal here is not to obstruct or block your progress on

Re: [webkit-dev] Out-of-process networking and potential for sharing memory cache (was Re: Feature Announcement: Moving HTML Parser off the Main Thread)

2013-01-21 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Jan 21, 2013, at 11:23 AM, Adam Barth wrote: > Some folks have pointed out to me off thread that I'm coming off as > angry and harsh. I would like to apologize for my tone. > > My goal here is not to obstruct or block your progress on the > NetworkProcess. My goal is to end up with a commo

Re: [webkit-dev] Out-of-process networking and potential for sharing memory cache (was Re: Feature Announcement: Moving HTML Parser off the Main Thread)

2013-01-21 Thread Adam Barth
Some folks have pointed out to me off thread that I'm coming off as angry and harsh. I would like to apologize for my tone. My goal here is not to obstruct or block your progress on the NetworkProcess. My goal is to end up with a common design that we can share between WebKit2 and Chromium or at

Re: [webkit-dev] Out-of-process networking and potential for sharing memory cache (was Re: Feature Announcement: Moving HTML Parser off the Main Thread)

2013-01-20 Thread Adam Barth
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > > On Jan 20, 2013, at 1:44 PM, Adam Barth wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Oliver Hunt wrote: > > I take your word for it that it's not possible on Windows. > > > Given that Chromium has many users on Windows (and other non-

Re: [webkit-dev] Out-of-process networking and potential for sharing memory cache (was Re: Feature Announcement: Moving HTML Parser off the Main Thread)

2013-01-20 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Jan 20, 2013, at 1:44 PM, Adam Barth wrote: > On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Oliver Hunt wrote: I take your word for it that it's not possible on Windows. >>> >>> Given that Chromium has many users on Windows (and other non-Mac >>> platforms), you should now understand why this desig

Re: [webkit-dev] Out-of-process networking and potential for sharing memory cache (was Re: Feature Announcement: Moving HTML Parser off the Main Thread)

2013-01-20 Thread Adam Barth
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Oliver Hunt wrote: >>> I take your word for it that it's not possible on Windows. >> >> Given that Chromium has many users on Windows (and other non-Mac >> platforms), you should now understand why this design does not fit >> well with Chromium's design constraints

Re: [webkit-dev] Out-of-process networking and potential for sharing memory cache (was Re: Feature Announcement: Moving HTML Parser off the Main Thread)

2013-01-20 Thread Oliver Hunt
>> >> I take your word for it that it's not possible on Windows. > > Given that Chromium has many users on Windows (and other non-Mac > platforms), you should now understand why this design does not fit > well with Chromium's design constraints. But chromium doesn't use webkit or webkit2, so i'm

Re: [webkit-dev] Out-of-process networking and potential for sharing memory cache (was Re: Feature Announcement: Moving HTML Parser off the Main Thread)

2013-01-20 Thread Adam Barth
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 11:33 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > On Jan 12, 2013, at 1:14 AM, Adam Barth wrote: >> On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 12:03 AM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: >>> >>> Do you think thread in the UI process vs. completely separate process is a >>> topic worth discussing? It seems like

Re: [webkit-dev] Out-of-process networking and potential for sharing memory cache (was Re: Feature Announcement: Moving HTML Parser off the Main Thread)

2013-01-16 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
Hi Adam, You raise a number of interesting points which I'll try to address. On Jan 12, 2013, at 1:14 AM, Adam Barth wrote: > On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 12:03 AM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: >> >> Do you think thread in the UI process vs. completely separate process is a >> topic worth discussing

Re: [webkit-dev] Out-of-process networking and potential for sharing memory cache (was Re: Feature Announcement: Moving HTML Parser off the Main Thread)

2013-01-12 Thread Adam Barth
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 12:03 AM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > On Jan 11, 2013, at 2:53 PM, Adam Barth wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 2:19 AM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: >>> On Jan 11, 2013, at 12:21 AM, Adam Barth wrote: Is that really the case? If so, I'm surprised that the patches for >

Re: [webkit-dev] Out-of-process networking and potential for sharing memory cache (was Re: Feature Announcement: Moving HTML Parser off the Main Thread)

2013-01-12 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Jan 11, 2013, at 2:53 PM, Adam Barth wrote: > On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 2:19 AM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: >> On Jan 11, 2013, at 12:21 AM, Adam Barth wrote: >>> >>> Is that really the case? If so, I'm surprised that the patches for >>> the shared memory cache and the NetworkProcess landed.

Re: [webkit-dev] Out-of-process networking and potential for sharing memory cache (was Re: Feature Announcement: Moving HTML Parser off the Main Thread)

2013-01-11 Thread Adam Barth
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 2:19 AM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > On Jan 11, 2013, at 12:21 AM, Adam Barth wrote: >>> If you're actually planning to make a significant complexity-imposing >>> architectural change for performance reasons, without any way to test >>> whether it delivers the claimed per

[webkit-dev] Out-of-process networking and potential for sharing memory cache (was Re: Feature Announcement: Moving HTML Parser off the Main Thread)

2013-01-11 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Jan 11, 2013, at 12:21 AM, Adam Barth wrote: >> >> If you're actually planning to make a significant complexity-imposing >> architectural change for performance reasons, without any way to test >> whether it delivers the claimed performance benefits, or how it compares to >> less complex