Re: [webkit-dev] Switching to XCBuild for Apple builds

[Frédéric Wang]

On 02/04/2020 04:42, Keith Rollin wrote:
>
> The patch was just on my local system. I wanted to make sure I’d covered any 
> issues that were turned up in response to my email before posting. But I’ve 
> now created the bug noted above and added the patch to it.
>
Thanks for publishing it. I assume by "Apple builds" (in the title) you
mean macOS and iOS ports i.e. it still works for people using the public
SDK rather than Apple's internal one. I gave a quick try and I'm not
able to build both ports in parallel anymore (will follow-up issues on
the bug).

I'm generally working with the latest version of Xcode and with the
command line, so I guess others are in better position to reply to your
concern on legacy support.

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Re: [webkit-dev] Switching to XCBuild for Apple builds

[Keith Rollin]

> On Apr 1, 2020, at 06:21, Frédéric Wang  wrote:
> 
> On 31/03/2020 08:42, Keith Rollin wrote:
> 
>> For several years now, Xcode has included two build systems: the “legacy” 
>> build system and the newer “XCBuild” system (see, for example, 
>>  and 
>> , as well as 
>> 
>>  and 
>> ).
>> 
>> WebKit is finally in a position to move to the new build system. However, 
>> this switch is not without consequences. In particular, WebKit has a 
>> complicated build process and requires new XCBuild features only found in 
>> Xcode 11.4. If you build from within the IDE, you will need Xcode 11.4 or 
>> later. Pre-releases have been available for some time on 
>> developer.apple.com, but the final version of Xcode 11.4 was posted to the 
>> Mac App Store last week on March 24, 2020.
> 
> Out of curiosity, what will be the benefits brought by XCBuild for
> WebKit developers? (sorry for asking but I don't have time to watch the
> videos and skimming over the blog post, it seems it's mostly performance
> improvement for swift compilation?)


I created  and responded to 
your question there.


>> When building from the command line, the conditions are less strict. By 
>> default, builds are performed with XCBuild if the `build-webkit` script or 
>> the makefiles detect that Xcode 11.4 or later is installed. If not, builds 
>> are performed with the legacy build system. We can be flexible here because 
>> the build process is controlled by these scripts and makefiles, allowing the 
>> build process to determine the Xcode version before invoking `xcodebuild`. 
>> There is no such opportunity when building within the Xcode IDE, and so the 
>> build requirements are stricter.
>> 
>> I’ve made the changes to switch over to XCBuild but I haven’t yet posted 
>> them. I want to first find out if this move will cause any issues for 
>> developers who — for whatever reason — need to stay on old versions of 
>> Xcode. If so, please let me know.
> So I'm not sure I understand but concretely, am I already using the new
> system if I use the build-script, I've upgraded to XCode 11.4 and
> rebuilt WebKit from scratch? How can I know which build system I'm using?
> 
> Or do you mean you have a patch for WebKit that is pending to land? If
> so, what's the bug number?


The patch was just on my local system. I wanted to make sure I’d covered any 
issues that were turned up in response to my email before posting. But I’ve now 
created the bug noted above and added the patch to it.

— Keith

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Re: [webkit-dev] Switching to XCBuild for Apple builds

[Frédéric Wang]

On 31/03/2020 08:42, Keith Rollin wrote:

Hi,

> Hi all,
>
> For several years now, Xcode has included two build systems: the “legacy” 
> build system and the newer “XCBuild” system (see, for example, 
>  and 
> , as well as 
> 
>  and 
> ).
>
> WebKit is finally in a position to move to the new build system. However, 
> this switch is not without consequences. In particular, WebKit has a 
> complicated build process and requires new XCBuild features only found in 
> Xcode 11.4. If you build from within the IDE, you will need Xcode 11.4 or 
> later. Pre-releases have been available for some time on developer.apple.com, 
> but the final version of Xcode 11.4 was posted to the Mac App Store last week 
> on March 24, 2020.

Out of curiosity, what will be the benefits brought by XCBuild for
WebKit developers? (sorry for asking but I don't have time to watch the
videos and skimming over the blog post, it seems it's mostly performance
improvement for swift compilation?)

> When building from the command line, the conditions are less strict. By 
> default, builds are performed with XCBuild if the `build-webkit` script or 
> the makefiles detect that Xcode 11.4 or later is installed. If not, builds 
> are performed with the legacy build system. We can be flexible here because 
> the build process is controlled by these scripts and makefiles, allowing the 
> build process to determine the Xcode version before invoking `xcodebuild`. 
> There is no such opportunity when building within the Xcode IDE, and so the 
> build requirements are stricter.
>
> I’ve made the changes to switch over to XCBuild but I haven’t yet posted 
> them. I want to first find out if this move will cause any issues for 
> developers who — for whatever reason — need to stay on old versions of Xcode. 
> If so, please let me know.
So I'm not sure I understand but concretely, am I already using the new
system if I use the build-script, I've upgraded to XCode 11.4 and
rebuilt WebKit from scratch? How can I know which build system I'm using?

Or do you mean you have a patch for WebKit that is pending to land? If
so, what's the bug number?

Thanks,

-- 
Frédéric Wang


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