Re: [webkit-dev] Development Tools on Safari
On Jul 13, 2009, at 11:24 PM, Hieu Le Trung wrote: Can we separate the tools from WebKit menu? I don't think I understand this question. What is the WebKit menu? I want to run them as a stand-alone and connect to existing WebKit instance. Right now each Web Inspector window is tied to a particular WebView, and the Web Inspector and the WebView must be in the same process. The Chrome guys have been doing some work on having the Inspector run in a separate process from the WebView, but we haven't adopted that in Apple's ports yet. You can use the Inspector in any WebView in any application on OS X if you set the WebKitDeveloperExtrasEnabledPreferenceKey preference to YES. Here's how you'd do it for Safari: defaults write com.apple.Safari WebKitDeveloperExtrasEnabledPreferenceKey YES Just replace com.apple.Safari with the bundle ID of the application in question. -Adam ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev
Re: [webkit-dev] Development Tools on Safari
Adam, Let me check the Chrome. I'd like to have Web Inspector run as a separate process and connect to WebKit instance for profiling, performance measuring...It's also good if we can have it connect remotely, WebKit run on the target (embedded) and Web Inspector remote connect to do profile. Something like oProfileUI (http://labs.o-hand.com/oprofileui/) Regards, -Hieu -Original Message- From: Adam Roben [mailto:aro...@apple.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:42 PM To: Hieu Le Trung Cc: Maciej Stachowiak; Juan Madrigal; webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org Subject: Re: [webkit-dev] Development Tools on Safari On Jul 13, 2009, at 11:24 PM, Hieu Le Trung wrote: Can we separate the tools from WebKit menu? I don't think I understand this question. What is the WebKit menu? I want to run them as a stand-alone and connect to existing WebKit instance. Right now each Web Inspector window is tied to a particular WebView, and the Web Inspector and the WebView must be in the same process. The Chrome guys have been doing some work on having the Inspector run in a separate process from the WebView, but we haven't adopted that in Apple's ports yet. You can use the Inspector in any WebView in any application on OS X if you set the WebKitDeveloperExtrasEnabledPreferenceKey preference to YES. Here's how you'd do it for Safari: defaults write com.apple.Safari WebKitDeveloperExtrasEnabledPreferenceKey YES Just replace com.apple.Safari with the bundle ID of the application in question. -Adam ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev
[webkit-dev] Development Tools on Safari
Any chance HTMLTidy will be integrated into Safari? http://zappatic.net/safaritidy/ Firebug is also a must: http://getfirebug.com/ Those are the only things keeping me from ditching Firefox, well aside from the Web Developer Toolbar: http://chrispederick.com/work/web-developer/ and Tamper Data: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/966as well. What tools are available for Safari/Webkit that match or exceed the above? They are sorely needed for web development. -Juan ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev
Re: [webkit-dev] Development Tools on Safari
On 2009-07-13, at 19:28, Juan Madrigal wrote: Any chance HTMLTidy will be integrated into Safari? http://zappatic.net/safaritidy/ Firebug is also a must: http://getfirebug.com/ Those are the only things keeping me from ditching Firefox, well aside from the Web Developer Toolbar: http://chrispederick.com/work/web-developer/ and Tamper Data: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ 966as well. What tools are available for Safari/Webkit that match or exceed the above? They are sorely needed for web development. http://www.apple.com/safari/features.html#developer - Mark smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev
Re: [webkit-dev] Development Tools on Safari
On Jul 13, 2009, at 7:28 PM, Juan Madrigal wrote: Any chance HTMLTidy will be integrated into Safari? http://zappatic.net/safaritidy/ Firebug is also a must: http://getfirebug.com/ Those are the only things keeping me from ditching Firefox, well aside from the Web Developer Toolbar: http://chrispederick.com/work/web-developer/ and Tamper Data: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ 966as well. What tools are available for Safari/Webkit that match or exceed the above? They are sorely needed for web development. Mark pointed you to the wealth of tools available in the Web Inspector and Develop menu. If you have any specific feature requests beyond what the tools can do already, please file bugs at http://bugs.webkit.org . We're always looking for ways to improve the tools. Built-in validation support would be one cool enhancement, but we'd probably want to use validator.nu as the back end instead of using tidy, since it supports HTML5. Regards, Maciej ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev
Re: [webkit-dev] Development Tools on Safari
On Jul 13, 2009, at 7:28 PM, Juan Madrigal wrote: Firebug is also a must: http://getfirebug.com/ Why is Firebug a must, when we have the WebKit inspector? Is there something missing from the inspector tool? Or do you find performing certain actions less efficient? Thanks, -Brent ___ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev
