Re: [webkit-dev] Including new IETestCenter tests in the LayoutTests

2012-02-15 Thread Alexis Menard
The code we submit in WebKit has to be BSD or LGPL compatible code.
(/me remember how hard it is to find real world CSS BSD compatible
chunk to write a perf test)

I found http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/cc300389.aspx then you have to
see if that is ok for us. In any case the copyright is Microsoft.

On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Adam Barth aba...@webkit.org wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Dave Tharp dth...@codeaurora.org wrote:
 I am currently looking at the WebKit CSS3  failures on IETestCenter
 (http://samples.msdn.microsoft.com/ietestcenter/ ).

 I’m making some progress, and getting ready to submit a patch.  I’ve
 contacted Beth Dakin about my approach on the first patch, and she says I
 should proceed.

 As part of the patch, of course I need to submit a passing layout test.
 This is where a question for the community arises:

 Presuming it is legal (I have my legal department looking at it),  I think
 it makes sense to bring in the tests verbatim from the IETestCenter site.  I
 do understand that there will likely be some overlap (thus, inefficiency) in
 coverage, but I think having a complete, identical set of tests will make it
 easier to verify WebKit’s performance in this test suite.  There is a
 precedent for this:  the IETestCenter javascript tests are already present
 in the LayoutTests tree.

 Assuming there are no legal barriers, importing the whole test suite
 would be valuable.  The LayoutTests contain a number of test suites
 developed externally (e.g., acid3, W3C conformance tests).  Some of
 these tests are redundant with other tests, but having the whole test
 suite as a unit is valuable itself.

 The alternative is to write new tests or enhance existing tests in the
 current LayoutTests tree.

 I’m open to either approach,  just need some direction from the team.

 That path is also fine.  I would encourage you to import all of the IE
 test center CSS tests (assuming it passes legal muster).

 Adam
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Re: [webkit-dev] Including new IETestCenter tests in the LayoutTests

2012-02-15 Thread Maciej Stachowiak

On Feb 15, 2012, at 2:26 AM, Alexis Menard wrote:

 The code we submit in WebKit has to be BSD or LGPL compatible code.
 (/me remember how hard it is to find real world CSS BSD compatible
 chunk to write a perf test)
 
 I found http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/cc300389.aspx then you have to
 see if that is ok for us. In any case the copyright is Microsoft.

Actually, the license terms for the IETestCenter content itself are here:

http://samples.msdn.microsoft.com/ietestcenter/support/copyright.htm

This is a BSD-equivalent license. So it should be acceptable to incorporate the 
tests into the WebKit repository. As Adam mentioned, we are happy to import 
external test suites wholesale, even if they are not fully passing yet.

Regards,
Maciej


 
 On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Adam Barth aba...@webkit.org wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Dave Tharp dth...@codeaurora.org wrote:
 I am currently looking at the WebKit CSS3  failures on IETestCenter
 (http://samples.msdn.microsoft.com/ietestcenter/ ).
 
 I’m making some progress, and getting ready to submit a patch.  I’ve
 contacted Beth Dakin about my approach on the first patch, and she says I
 should proceed.
 
 As part of the patch, of course I need to submit a passing layout test.
 This is where a question for the community arises:
 
 Presuming it is legal (I have my legal department looking at it),  I think
 it makes sense to bring in the tests verbatim from the IETestCenter site.  I
 do understand that there will likely be some overlap (thus, inefficiency) in
 coverage, but I think having a complete, identical set of tests will make it
 easier to verify WebKit’s performance in this test suite.  There is a
 precedent for this:  the IETestCenter javascript tests are already present
 in the LayoutTests tree.
 
 Assuming there are no legal barriers, importing the whole test suite
 would be valuable.  The LayoutTests contain a number of test suites
 developed externally (e.g., acid3, W3C conformance tests).  Some of
 these tests are redundant with other tests, but having the whole test
 suite as a unit is valuable itself.
 
 The alternative is to write new tests or enhance existing tests in the
 current LayoutTests tree.
 
 I’m open to either approach,  just need some direction from the team.
 
 That path is also fine.  I would encourage you to import all of the IE
 test center CSS tests (assuming it passes legal muster).
 
 Adam
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[webkit-dev] Including new IETestCenter tests in the LayoutTests

2012-02-14 Thread Dave Tharp
Greetings,

 

I am currently looking at the WebKit CSS3  failures on IETestCenter
(http://samples.msdn.microsoft.com/ietestcenter/ ). 

 

I'm making some progress, and getting ready to submit a patch.  I've
contacted Beth Dakin about my approach on the first patch, and she says I
should proceed.

 

As part of the patch, of course I need to submit a passing layout test.
This is where a question for the community arises:

 

Presuming it is legal (I have my legal department looking at it),  I think
it makes sense to bring in the tests verbatim from the IETestCenter site.  I
do understand that there will likely be some overlap (thus, inefficiency) in
coverage, but I think having a complete, identical set of tests will make it
easier to verify WebKit's performance in this test suite.  There is a
precedent for this:  the IETestCenter javascript tests are already present
in the LayoutTests tree.

 

The alternative is to write new tests or enhance existing tests in the
current LayoutTests tree.

 

I'm open to either approach,  just need some direction from the team.

 

-Dave Tharp

 

 

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Re: [webkit-dev] Including new IETestCenter tests in the LayoutTests

2012-02-14 Thread Adam Barth
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Dave Tharp dth...@codeaurora.org wrote:
 I am currently looking at the WebKit CSS3  failures on IETestCenter
 (http://samples.msdn.microsoft.com/ietestcenter/ ).

 I’m making some progress, and getting ready to submit a patch.  I’ve
 contacted Beth Dakin about my approach on the first patch, and she says I
 should proceed.

 As part of the patch, of course I need to submit a passing layout test.
 This is where a question for the community arises:

 Presuming it is legal (I have my legal department looking at it),  I think
 it makes sense to bring in the tests verbatim from the IETestCenter site.  I
 do understand that there will likely be some overlap (thus, inefficiency) in
 coverage, but I think having a complete, identical set of tests will make it
 easier to verify WebKit’s performance in this test suite.  There is a
 precedent for this:  the IETestCenter javascript tests are already present
 in the LayoutTests tree.

Assuming there are no legal barriers, importing the whole test suite
would be valuable.  The LayoutTests contain a number of test suites
developed externally (e.g., acid3, W3C conformance tests).  Some of
these tests are redundant with other tests, but having the whole test
suite as a unit is valuable itself.

 The alternative is to write new tests or enhance existing tests in the
 current LayoutTests tree.

 I’m open to either approach,  just need some direction from the team.

That path is also fine.  I would encourage you to import all of the IE
test center CSS tests (assuming it passes legal muster).

Adam
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