Re: [webkit-dev] Removing support for CSS regions

2017-08-15 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Geoffrey Garen wrote: > Given my concern is the compatibility, not the maintenance cost, what > is the evidence that nobody is relying on this feature? > > > It’s difficult to prove a negative. Impossible, in fact. > > Can anyone present evidence of a major client

Re: [webkit-dev] Removing support for CSS regions

2017-08-15 Thread Geoffrey Garen
>> Given my concern is the compatibility, not the maintenance cost, what >> is the evidence that nobody is relying on this feature? It’s difficult to prove a negative. Impossible, in fact. Can anyone present evidence of a major client of CSS regions? If not, I think that lack of evidence — in co

Re: [webkit-dev] Removing support for CSS regions

2017-08-02 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
> On Aug 2, 2017, at 2:40 AM, Andreas Kling wrote: > >> >> On 2 Aug 2017, at 01:03, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 1:49 AM, Andreas Kling wrote: >>> Some time has passed, and it seems that adoption of CSS regions on the web >>> is not gonna happen. >>> >>> Blink has lon

Re: [webkit-dev] Removing support for CSS regions

2017-08-02 Thread Andreas Kling
> On 2 Aug 2017, at 09:00, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 11:40 PM, Andreas Kling > wrote: >> >>> On 2 Aug 2017, at 01:03, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 1:49 AM, Andreas Kling wrote: Some time has passed, and it seems that

Re: [webkit-dev] Removing support for CSS regions

2017-08-02 Thread Antti Koivisto
This is a blocker for making the render tree more secure and for architectural progress there in general. The feature is extremely invasive and has design issues. I think the security benefits of removing it alone are worth taking a small regression risk. antti On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 10:00 AM,

Re: [webkit-dev] Removing support for CSS regions

2017-08-02 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 11:40 PM, Andreas Kling wrote: > >> On 2 Aug 2017, at 01:03, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 1:49 AM, Andreas Kling wrote: >>> Some time has passed, and it seems that adoption of CSS regions on the web >>> is not gonna happen. >>> >>> Blink has long sinc

Re: [webkit-dev] Removing support for CSS regions

2017-08-01 Thread Andreas Kling
> On 2 Aug 2017, at 01:03, Ryosuke Niwa wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 1:49 AM, Andreas Kling wrote: >> Some time has passed, and it seems that adoption of CSS regions on the web >> is not gonna happen. >> >> Blink has long since removed their support. >> Firefox never supported it AFAIK.

Re: [webkit-dev] Removing support for CSS regions

2017-08-01 Thread Andreas Kling
> On 1 Aug 2017, at 15:38, Dean Jackson wrote: > > I've been told that Amazon's Kindle Cloud Reader uses CSS Regions if > available, and gets a significant performance boost. It has a fallback though. Hi Dean! I’ve WebInspected around in a few books using Kindle Cloud Reader and can’t find a

Re: [webkit-dev] Removing support for CSS regions

2017-08-01 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 1:49 AM, Andreas Kling wrote: > Some time has passed, and it seems that adoption of CSS regions on the web is > not gonna happen. > > Blink has long since removed their support. > Firefox never supported it AFAIK. > (The new) IE has some amount of support behind a prefix,

Re: [webkit-dev] Removing support for CSS regions

2017-08-01 Thread Dean Jackson
I've been told that Amazon's Kindle Cloud Reader uses CSS Regions if available, and gets a significant performance boost. It has a fallback though. Also, it would be worth checking at least Apple's iBooks store for any content that might have used regions. It would be a shame if purchased books

Re: [webkit-dev] Removing support for CSS regions

2017-07-31 Thread Håkon Wium Lie
Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > Some time has passed, and it seems that adoption of CSS regions on > > the web is not gonna happen. > > Yeah, it does indeed. > > Does anyone have a good explanation for what went wrong? Why did Blink > remove its support? Just curious. Some answers can be f

Re: [webkit-dev] Removing support for CSS regions

2017-07-31 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 9:49 AM, Andreas Kling wrote: Hi folks, Some time has passed, and it seems that adoption of CSS regions on the web is not gonna happen. Yeah, it does indeed. Does anyone have a good explanation for what went wrong? Why did Blink remove its support? Just curious. M

[webkit-dev] Removing support for CSS regions

2017-07-31 Thread Andreas Kling
Hi folks, Some time has passed, and it seems that adoption of CSS regions on the web is not gonna happen. Blink has long since removed their support. Firefox never supported it AFAIK. (The new) IE has some amount of support behind a prefix, but no plans to unprefix AFAIK. I think it’s time we