Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit position on Wake Lock API

2020-02-19 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 5:23 AM Thomas Steiner  wrote:

> On Sat 21. Dec 2019 at 02:18 Ryosuke Niwa  wrote:
>
>> We'll be discussing this internally at Apple but since we're heading into
>> the holiday shutdown, we probably won't be able to get back to you until
>> sometime next month.
>>
>
> Hello Ryosuke,
>
> Have you or someone else from the team had a chance to look at this?
> Please note that we’re currently exclusively look for the “screen” wake
> lock case, not the “system” case.
>

I'm still soliciting a feedback.

For now, I can say we're very much concerned about any impact on battery
life since that's no.1 thing our users care about. Since even a few
percentage point of battery life regression would be a major concern,
there *needs
to be extraordinarily good reasons* to add this API; I just don't think any
of the use cases listed in https://w3c.github.io/wake-lock/#introduction are
compelling enough to meet such a standard.

- R. Niwa
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Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit position on Wake Lock API

2020-02-18 Thread Thomas Steiner
On Sat 21. Dec 2019 at 02:18 Ryosuke Niwa  wrote:

> We'll be discussing this internally at Apple but since we're heading into
> the holiday shutdown, we probably won't be able to get back to you until
> sometime next month.
>

Hello Ryosuke,

Have you or someone else from the team had a chance to look at this? Please
note that we’re currently exclusively look for the “screen” wake lock case,
not the “system” case.

Thanks for a short update in advance.

Cheers,
Tom
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Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit position on Wake Lock API

2019-12-20 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
We'll be discussing this internally at Apple but since we're heading into
the holiday shutdown, we probably won't be able to get back to you until
sometime next month.

- R. Niwa

On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 1:19 PM Thomas Steiner  wrote:

> The Intent to Experiment thread is here:
>
> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/m/#!msg/blink-dev/nrDKOvVl_I4/yNYZOwJ1EQAJ
>
> On Wed 11. Dec 2019 at 22:08 Ryosuke Niwa  wrote:
>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 11:42 AM Maciej Stachowiak  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Is there a Blink Intent thread currently running on this or about to
>>> start?  And do you happen to know if there is a Mozilla standards-positions
>>> issue on this? (We like to take into consideration whet the other browser
>>> engines are thinking.)
>>>
>>
>> https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/210 is Mozilla's
>> standards position issue.
>>
>>> On Dec 10, 2019, at 11:46 PM, Thomas Steiner  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello WebKit Dev,
>>>
>>> Following Maciej's invitation to send requests for positions on API
>>> proposals to this very mailing list, I would like to gauge WebKit's
>>> position on the Wake Lock API:
>>> https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=205104. Nota bene, this is an
>>> API that is potentially useful for a "document web" even, not just an
>>> "application web".
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tom
>>>
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Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit position on Wake Lock API

2019-12-11 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 11:42 AM Maciej Stachowiak  wrote:

>
> Is there a Blink Intent thread currently running on this or about to
> start?  And do you happen to know if there is a Mozilla standards-positions
> issue on this? (We like to take into consideration whet the other browser
> engines are thinking.)
>

https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/210 is Mozilla's
standards position issue.

> On Dec 10, 2019, at 11:46 PM, Thomas Steiner  wrote:
>
> Hello WebKit Dev,
>
> Following Maciej's invitation to send requests for positions on API
> proposals to this very mailing list, I would like to gauge WebKit's
> position on the Wake Lock API:
> https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=205104. Nota bene, this is an API
> that is potentially useful for a "document web" even, not just an
> "application web".
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
>
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Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit position on Wake Lock API

2019-12-11 Thread Maciej Stachowiak

Is there a Blink Intent thread currently running on this or about to start?  
And do you happen to know if there is a Mozilla standards-positions issue on 
this? (We like to take into consideration whet the other browser engines are 
thinking.)


> On Dec 10, 2019, at 11:46 PM, Thomas Steiner  wrote:
> 
> Hello WebKit Dev,
> 
> Following Maciej's invitation to send requests for positions on API proposals 
> to this very mailing list, I would like to gauge WebKit's position on the 
> Wake Lock API: https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=205104 
> . Nota bene, this is an API 
> that is potentially useful for a "document web" even, not just an 
> "application web".
> 
> Thanks,
> Tom
> 
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[webkit-dev] WebKit position on Wake Lock API

2019-12-10 Thread Thomas Steiner
Hello WebKit Dev,

Following Maciej's invitation to send requests for positions on API
proposals to this very mailing list, I would like to gauge WebKit's
position on the Wake Lock API:
https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=205104. Nota bene, this is an API
that is potentially useful for a "document web" even, not just an
"application web".

Thanks,
Tom
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