Re: Should i use web objects or jBoss

2010-03-20 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 2010-03-20 à 20:19, David Holt a écrit : > http://www.wocommunity.org/webobjects_screencasts.html > > You can also find them at the Apple developer website > > http://developer.apple.com/videos/access/ if you sign up as a Mac developer. I added a note about the WWDC content on the front pag

Re: Should i use web objects or jBoss

2010-03-20 Thread David Holt
http://www.wocommunity.org/webobjects_screencasts.html You can also find them at the Apple developer website http://developer.apple.com/videos/access/ if you sign up as a Mac developer. and WOWODC lectures if you want to buy some specific ones. http://wocommunity.org/apps/WebObjects/WOCommunity

Re: Should i use web objects or jBoss

2010-03-20 Thread Pascal Robert
But with the Practical WO book, I suggest either Ravi Mendis book or the Wrox one. They were written in the Project Builder days, but you can find a copy of the book samples here : https://services.wocommunity.org/books/ Ravi's book is available on O'Reilly Safari. > Certainly, > > A

Re: Should i use web objects or jBoss

2010-03-20 Thread Pankaj D
Hi everyone, I hope the learning curve wont be much specially when i am alredy exposed this kind of development scenario ... in ROR ... but the problem with ROR is .. that it is slow ... atleast a 20 times slower than PHP Here WO can speed up things because of JAVA framework ... i suppose ..

Re: Should i use web objects or jBoss

2010-03-20 Thread Johnny Miller
Certainly, A lot of the learning curve with WO, IMHO, is sometimes things seem to work by magic. Practical WO does a good job of demystifying items like the component architecture and the request/response loop. Especially if you are coming from PHP where the developer is responsible for a lot

Re: Should i use web objects or jBoss

2010-03-20 Thread Daniel Beatty
Greetings Pankaj, For me it was a matter of simplicity. I already had both VMWare for cross platform development. I also had OSX Server for XGrid development. In the case of WO, the MySQL that comes with OSX Server is simply convenient. Thus with what I had, the virtual OSX Server was co

Re: Should i use web objects or jBoss

2010-03-20 Thread Johnny Miller
Buy this book. http://www.amazon.com/Practical-WebObjects-Charles-Hill/dp/1590592964/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1269112508&sr=8-2 I think I've purchased all the WO titles and this was my favorite. It continues to augment my development as I get better and better at WO. On Mar 20, 2010,

Re: Should i use web objects or jBoss

2010-03-20 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 2010-03-20 à 14:10, Daniel Beatty a écrit : > Greetings Pankaj, > I wish I could say that all of us are unbiased, but we foxes love guarding > the hen house. > > Rails and WO have much in common since many of the design patterns are the > same. Thus the learning curve might not be so bad.

Re: Should i use web objects or jBoss

2010-03-20 Thread James Cicenia
I would like to mention that the real value lies in this list. This list has some of the most patient, cranky, informed, and helpful list I have ever come across. You will be standing on the shoulders of giants. - james On Mar 20, 2010, at 10:17 AM, Pankaj D wrote: > Hi , everyone > > This i

Re: Should i use web objects or jBoss

2010-03-20 Thread David Holt
On 2010-03-20, at 8:17 AM, Pankaj D wrote: > Hi , everyone Welcome! > > This is my first post to any apple mailing list after transition to mac > platform ... and i am impressed with the overall development tools available > ... in Mac OS X... earlier to that the next most impressive stack

Re: Should i use web objects or jBoss

2010-03-20 Thread Anjo Krank
> If you are just starting out, you may want to consider using Scala, rather > than Java, from the beginning, > . Terrible advice. He won't get anywhere in choosing a totally obscure combination where no one will be able t

Re: Should i use web objects or jBoss

2010-03-20 Thread Daniel Beatty
Greetings Pankaj, I wish I could say that all of us are unbiased, but we foxes love guarding the hen house. Rails and WO have much in common since many of the design patterns are the same. Thus the learning curve might not be so bad. It is a matter of Ruby-Java hurdles, which are not all th

Re: Should i use web objects or jBoss

2010-03-20 Thread André Mitra
To decide what to do, you could start by going through the tutorials on this page, . If you are just starting out, you may want to consider using Scala, rather than Java, from the beginning,

Should i use web objects or jBoss

2010-03-20 Thread Pankaj D
Hi , everyone This is my first post to any apple mailing list after transition to mac platform ... and i am impressed with the overall development tools available ... in Mac OS X... earlier to that the next most impressive stack for development was "LINUX" I am a web developer with 2+ yrs e