Re: Abandonware???

2015-10-05 Thread Henrique Prange
_wo...@codeferous.com> wrote: > >> WebObjects - the set of frameworks used by Apple == Not Abandonware >> WebObjects - the set of frameworks used/enhanced/patched by the >> community through Wonder == Not Abandonware >> WebObjects - the set of frameworks supplied

Re: Abandonware???

2015-10-05 Thread Ray Kiddy
On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 15:54:37 -0400 David LeBer <dleber_wo...@codeferous.com> wrote: > WebObjects - the set of frameworks used by Apple == Not Abandonware > WebObjects - the set of frameworks used/enhanced/patched by the > community through Wonder == Not Abandonware > We

Fwd: Abandonware???

2015-10-05 Thread Paul Yu
> Begin forwarded message: > > From: webobjects-dev-ow...@lists.apple.com > Subject: Re: Abandonware??? > Date: October 5, 2015 at 6:02:01 PM EDT > To: p...@me.com > > You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has > been automatically reject

Re: Abandonware???

2015-10-05 Thread Henrique Prange
Hi Paul, "Although such software is usually still under copyright, the owner may not be tracking or enforcing copyright violations." Apple doesn’t need to release the copyright to turn WebObjects into Abandonware. I see no problem if we declare WebObjects as Abandonware and Appl

Abandonware???

2015-10-02 Thread Paul Yu
I was reading this Wikipedia article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abandonware <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abandonware> Would the list agree that WebObjects is now abandonware? "Definitions of "abandoned" vary, but in general it is like any item that is aban

Re: Abandonware???

2015-10-02 Thread David LeBer
WebObjects - the set of frameworks used by Apple == Not Abandonware WebObjects - the set of frameworks used/enhanced/patched by the community through Wonder == Not Abandonware WebObjects - the set of frameworks supplied by Apple as a supported product == Abandonware My opinion. D Paul Yu

Re: Abandonware???

2015-10-02 Thread Paul Yu
Hi D Because of > WebObjects - the set of frameworks supplied by Apple as a supported product > == Abandonware The community responded with > WebObjects - the set of frameworks used/enhanced/patched by the community > through Wonder. This was described in the wiki as possib

Re: Abandonware???

2015-10-02 Thread Alan Ward
I think Apple has abandoned WebObjects outside of Apple but not inside. Just my personal opinion Alan > On Oct 2, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Paul Yu <p...@mac.com> wrote: > > I was reading this Wikipedia article. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abandonware > > Would the

Re: Abandonware???

2015-10-02 Thread Hugi Thordarson
utside of Apple but not inside. Just > my personal opinion > > Alan > > > On Oct 2, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Paul Yu <p...@mac.com <mailto:p...@mac.com>> > wrote: > >> I was reading this Wikipedia article. >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abandonware

Re: Abandonware???

2015-10-02 Thread Ramsey Gurley
IMO, yes. Fits perfectly. I think we can all agree, it isn’t Swift http://www.zdnet.com/article/swift-goes-open-source-at-apple-wwdc-2015/ :-/ On Oct 2, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Paul Yu <p...@mac.com> wrote: > I was reading this Wikipedia article. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/w

Re: Abandonware???

2015-10-02 Thread Pascal Robert
nk Apple has abandoned WebObjects outside of Apple but not inside. Just >> my personal opinion >> >> Alan >> >> >> On Oct 2, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Paul Yu <p...@mac.com> wrote: >> >>> I was reading this Wikipedia article. >>>

Re: Abandonware???

2015-10-02 Thread Chuck Hill
, at 21:01, Alan Ward <aw...@apple.com> wrote: >>> >>> I think Apple has abandoned WebObjects outside of Apple but not >>>inside. Just my personal opinion >>> >>> Alan >>> >>> >>> On Oct 2, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Paul Yu <

Re: Abandonware???

2015-10-02 Thread Paul Yu
ard <aw...@apple.com >>> <mailto:aw...@apple.com>> wrote: >>> >>> I think Apple has abandoned WebObjects outside of Apple but not inside. >>> Just my personal opinion >>> >>> Alan >>> >>> >>> On Oct 2, 2015,

Re: Abandonware???

2015-10-02 Thread Hugi Thordarson
te: >>>> >>>> I think Apple has abandoned WebObjects outside of Apple but not >>>> inside. Just my personal opinion >>>> >>>> Alan >>>> >>>> >>>> On Oct 2, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Paul Yu <p...@mac.com

Re: Abandonware???

2015-10-02 Thread Hugi Thordarson
>> Apple silently killed WebObjects and abandoned it's users roughly a decade >> ago (in a somewhat less-than-honest manner (Floop-de-diddity-doo You, >> Apple)). >> >> But the community marches on. I’m constantly impressed by how this community >> survives and keeps what's essentially a dead

Re: Abandonware???

2015-10-02 Thread Chuck Hill
d. >>> >>> You know, now that we have a direct flight between Iceland and >>>Montreal, >>> your conversion to Cayenne would be a great presentation about WOWODC >>> 2016. :-) >>> >>>> - hugi >>>> >>>>