Re: Announcement: EROldFart Interface and a solid default implementation

2014-05-30 Thread Ângelo Andrade Cirino
Cheers Happy birthday Chuck Nice work Dave, I think the pull request should be accepted without much concern. Ângelo 2014-05-30 12:30 GMT-03:00 David Avendasora webobje...@avendasora.com: In honor of Chuck’s 50th birthday... https://github.com/wocommunity/wonder/pull/583/files Yours in

Re: Announcement: EROldFart Interface and a solid default implementation

2014-05-30 Thread David Avendasora
Ken Ishimoto actually merged it about 30 seconds after I submitted it! On May 30, 2014, at 11:35 AM, Ângelo Andrade Cirino aacir...@gmail.com wrote: Cheers Happy birthday Chuck Nice work Dave, I think the pull request should be accepted without much concern. Ângelo 2014-05-30

Re: Announcement: EROldFart Interface and a solid default implementation

2014-05-30 Thread Timothy Worman
That is really good stuff. Happy birthday Chuck. My favorite part is the default case for process(memory). :-) Tim UCLA GSEIS On May 30, 2014, at 8:41 AM, David Avendasora webobje...@avendasora.com wrote: Ken Ishimoto actually merged it about 30 seconds after I submitted it! On May 30,

Re: Announcement: EROldFart Interface and a solid default implementation

2014-05-30 Thread Chuck Hill
It is frighteningly accurate! On 2014-05-30, 9:48 AM, Timothy Worman wrote: That is really good stuff. Happy birthday Chuck. My favorite part is the default case for process(memory). :-) Tim UCLA GSEIS On May 30, 2014, at 8:41 AM, David Avendasora

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2010-04-24 Thread Lachlan Deck
On 23/04/2010, at 11:57 AM, Joe Little wrote: As I've mentioned to Chuck -- if I had to do Spring + Hibernate, I'd only go with Grails, as the GORM approach is far better than just being stuck with Hibernate Criteria. Personal oases vs having a career... hmm, let me think :) Seriously, the

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2010-04-24 Thread Lachlan Deck
On 23/04/2010, at 10:20 AM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote: Congratulations Lachlan, This is a great moment for your family. Thanks! It is indeed. The only thing you have to worry about is that once they grow up; they will notice you spending too much time working with your

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2010-04-24 Thread Lachlan Deck
Hey Timo, On 23/04/2010, at 6:51 PM, Timo Hoepfner wrote: Congratulations Lachlan for your family addition. In my experience, life gets easier again somewhere between the age of 1 and 2 years. This is from someone with 3 daughters... :) Cool. Looking forward to it. At least by then He'll

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2010-04-24 Thread Shravan Kumar. M
Congratulations Mike. I really thank you for your quick responses to most of my emails... I always tell my friends that there is no other better forum other than WOCommunity where every question is answered and answered until it is addressed. Hope you will continue your support to WO Community

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2010-04-23 Thread Matthias Jakob
Hi! Yes Dave, me to. Mike is one of the best developers here ... itself deeply bowing .. Matthias Message: 3 Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 11:45:31 -0400 From: David Avendasora webobje...@avendasora.com Subject: Re: announcement To: Alan Ward aw...@apple.com Cc: WO Dev Group webobjects-dev

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2010-04-23 Thread Mike Schrag
Apr 2010 11:45:31 -0400 From: David Avendasora webobje...@avendasora.com Subject: Re: announcement To: Alan Ward aw...@apple.com Cc: WO Dev Group webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com Message-ID: 53234977-4085-43c2-a4a9-41b1b6789...@avendasora.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii :-) I

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2010-04-23 Thread Timo Hoepfner
Congratulations Lachlan for your family addition. In my experience, life gets easier again somewhere between the age of 1 and 2 years. This is from someone with 3 daughters... :) Regarding your new job: I hope you will stay around anyway. Timo Am 22.04.2010 um 04:40 schrieb Lachlan Deck:

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2010-04-23 Thread Dev WO
funeral! ms On Apr 23, 2010, at 3:59 AM, Matthias Jakob wrote: Hi! Yes Dave, me to. Mike is one of the best developers here ... itself deeply bowing .. Matthias Message: 3 Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 11:45:31 -0400 From: David Avendasora webobje...@avendasora.com Subject: Re

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2010-04-23 Thread Amedeo Mantica
inline: PastedGraphic-1.png On 23/apr/2010, at 12.05, David Avendasora wrote: On Apr 23, 2010, at 5:26 AM, Dev WO wrote: June 2123, a couple days before WWDC '123, Mike The Unstoppable Code Machine Schrag passed away. Noo!

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2010-04-23 Thread Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf
Am 23.04.2010 um 05:46 schrieb Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists: Ciao Pascale, You are great and your efforts are very much appreciated. I have also been more than my share, in driving my internal apple WebObjects contact crazy, and complaining why he can't release any of his new work outside

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2010-04-23 Thread Ricardo J. Parada
On Apr 23, 2010, at 2:04 PM, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf wrote: How about we do a petition to Apple and/or a Dear Steve Jobs email? I already did this. Quite a while ago. It got ignored silently … I read on the web that he's been answering emails recently. :-) :-)

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2010-04-23 Thread Chuck Hill
On Apr 23, 2010, at 11:10 AM, Ricardo J. Parada wrote: On Apr 23, 2010, at 2:04 PM, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf wrote: How about we do a petition to Apple and/or a Dear Steve Jobs email? I already did this. Quite a while ago. It got ignored silently … I read on the web that he's been

Re: announcement

2010-04-23 Thread Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf
Am 23.04.2010 um 20:10 schrieb Ricardo J. Parada: On Apr 23, 2010, at 2:04 PM, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf wrote: How about we do a petition to Apple and/or a Dear Steve Jobs email? I already did this. Quite a while ago. It got ignored silently … I read on the web that he's been answering

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2010-04-23 Thread Johnny Miller
Yeah but, where is Apple going to get their next superstar/wunderkind employee, like Mike, if WebObjects isn't out there? On Apr 23, 2010, at 9:34 AM, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf wrote: Am 23.04.2010 um 20:10 schrieb Ricardo J. Parada: On Apr 23, 2010, at 2:04 PM, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf

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2010-04-22 Thread Stefan Klein
Congratulations Mike That's a great news for all (yourself, Apple and the WO community) Stefan Am 21.04.10 18:33, schrieb Mike Schrag: Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple. Not to worry,

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2010-04-22 Thread James Cicenia
Simple - Congratulations and thank you for your tireless contributions and on list help. James Cicenia On Apr 21, 2010, at 11:33 AM, Mike Schrag wrote: Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at

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2010-04-22 Thread Henrique Prange
Hey Mike, Congratulations and thank you for your support and endless effort all these years. Cheers, Henrique On 21/04/10 13:33, Mike Schrag wrote: Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at

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2010-04-22 Thread Patrick Robinson
Wow, this already feels belated! But I'll add my congratulations to the heap. Thanks for all you've done for WO from the outside, and Here's to many more fruitful WO years ahead! - Patrick On Apr 21, 2010, at 12:33 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that

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2010-04-22 Thread Alan Ward
We're hiring. Alan On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: If you know WO and want to work at Apple, just ask them. I know they don't have enough skilled WO developers. I am not sure they could ever have enough. Chuck On Apr 21, 2010, at 5:39 PM, Lon Varscsak wrote:

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2010-04-22 Thread David Holt
No! don't take everyone from the list ;-) d On 2010-04-22, at 7:45 AM, Alan Ward wrote: We're hiring. Alan On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: If you know WO and want to work at Apple, just ask them. I know they don't have enough skilled WO developers. I am not sure

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2010-04-22 Thread Pascal Robert
1+, Apple should only hire anonymous WO devs, not the ones who are actually helping the community :-) No! don't take everyone from the list ;-) d On 2010-04-22, at 7:45 AM, Alan Ward wrote: We're hiring. Alan On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: If you know WO and want to

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2010-04-22 Thread Alan Ward
Mike's not going to disappear you know. On Apr 22, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: 1+, Apple should only hire anonymous WO devs, not the ones who are actually helping the community :-) No! don't take everyone from the list ;-) d On 2010-04-22, at 7:45 AM, Alan Ward wrote:

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2010-04-22 Thread David Avendasora
:-) I think we're all hoping/expecting that that's the case, but there's been others who start working at Apple and then suddenly stop posting, or only post rarely. With someone as high profile and insanely helpful as Mike I think many of us are just a little nervous about it. Dave On Apr

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2010-04-22 Thread Beatty, Daniel D CIV NAVAIR, 474300D
@lists.apple.com on behalf of David Avendasora Sent: Thu 4/22/2010 8:45 AM To: Alan Ward Cc: WO Dev Group Subject: Re: announcement :-) I think we're all hoping/expecting that that's the case, but there's been others who start working at Apple and then suddenly stop posting, or only post

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2010-04-22 Thread David LeBer
On 2010-04-22, at 11:45 AM, David Avendasora wrote: :-) I think we're all hoping/expecting that that's the case, but there's been others who start working at Apple and then suddenly stop posting, or only post rarely. With someone as high profile and insanely helpful as Mike I think many

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2010-04-22 Thread Mike Schrag
In addition, many people will interpret a message from someone with an apple.com email address (especially someone with Mike's profile) as being (at least partially) a statement from Apple (no matter how much effort is put into disclaiming it.) you won't see me ever post from an apple.com

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2010-04-22 Thread David LeBer
On 2010-04-22, at 12:27 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: In addition, many people will interpret a message from someone with an apple.com email address (especially someone with Mike's profile) as being (at least partially) a statement from Apple (no matter how much effort is put into disclaiming

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2010-04-22 Thread Chuck Hill
On Apr 22, 2010, at 9:04 AM, David LeBer wrote: On 2010-04-22, at 11:45 AM, David Avendasora wrote: :-) I think we're all hoping/expecting that that's the case, but there's been others who start working at Apple and then suddenly stop posting, or only post rarely. With someone as high

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2010-04-22 Thread Cheong Hee Ng
@lists.apple.com on behalf of David Avendasora Sent: Thu 4/22/2010 8:45 AM To: Alan Ward Cc: WO Dev Group Subject: Re: announcement :-) I think we're all hoping/expecting that that's the case, but there's been others who start working at Apple and then suddenly stop posting, or only post

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2010-04-22 Thread Mike Schrag
E. Pilot Plant Rd. China Lake, CA 93555-6107 daniel.bea...@navy.mil (760) 939-7097 -Original Message- From: webobjects-dev-bounces+daniel.beatty=navy@lists.apple.com on behalf of David Avendasora Sent: Thu 4/22/2010 8:45 AM To: Alan Ward Cc: WO Dev Group Subject: Re

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2010-04-22 Thread Chuck Hill
Hi Lachlan, On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote: In other news, while announcements are in order: I started a new job a couple of weeks ago where spring+hibernate is in play. So my contributions will mostly likely slow down somewhat, not that they weren't slow already ;) Oh,

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2010-04-22 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 10-04-22 à 13:57, Chuck Hill a écrit : Hi Lachlan, On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote: In other news, while announcements are in order: I started a new job a couple of weeks ago where spring+hibernate is in play. So my contributions will mostly likely slow down somewhat,

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2010-04-22 Thread David Holt
On 2010-04-22, at 10:57 AM, Chuck Hill wrote: Hi Lachlan, On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote: In other news, while announcements are in order: I started a new job a couple of weeks ago where spring+hibernate is in play. So my contributions will mostly likely slow down

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2010-04-22 Thread Chuck Hill
On Apr 22, 2010, at 11:28 AM, David Holt wrote: On 2010-04-22, at 10:57 AM, Chuck Hill wrote: Hi Lachlan, On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote: In other news, while announcements are in order: I started a new job a couple of weeks ago where spring+hibernate is in play. So my

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2010-04-22 Thread Guido Neitzer
Yes, we are. Guido On 22. Apr, 2010, at 07:45 , Alan Ward wrote: We're hiring. Alan On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: If you know WO and want to work at Apple, just ask them. I know they don't have enough skilled WO developers. I am not sure they could ever have

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2010-04-22 Thread Ramsey Gurley
Hey Mike, Javadocs seem to be down at mDimension http://webobjects.mdimension.com/hudson/job/Wonder53/javadoc/ ... So who do we nag when you leave mDT? Has a successor been appointed? Ramsey On Apr 22, 2010, at 11:45 AM, David Avendasora wrote: :-) I think we're all hoping/expecting that

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2010-04-22 Thread Mike Schrag
Where's David den Boer when you need him? I'm guessing he would say the same :) Now we have a proper episode of the dating game! ms On Apr 22, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Guido Neitzer wrote: Yes, we are. Guido On 22. Apr, 2010, at 07:45 , Alan Ward wrote: We're hiring. Alan On Apr 21,

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2010-04-22 Thread Mike Schrag
@see hudson is in a funky state at the moment ... excuse our mess ... where's my animated construction worker gif? i'm moving the build server up from an internal box to an external box, so it's rebuilding everything now. ms On Apr 22, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Ramsey Gurley wrote: Hey Mike,

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2010-04-22 Thread Chuck Hill
On Apr 22, 2010, at 12:44 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: Where's David den Boer when you need him? I'm guessing he would say the same :) I am surprised that he was not first! He is usually right on this. Now we have a proper episode of the dating game! ms On Apr 22, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Guido

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2010-04-22 Thread Clark Mueller
He's hiring! On Apr 22, 2010, at 12:44 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: Where's David den Boer when you need him? I'm guessing he would say the same :) Now we have a proper episode of the dating game! ms On Apr 22, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Guido Neitzer wrote: Yes, we are. Guido On 22. Apr,

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2010-04-22 Thread Lachlan Deck
Hey there, On 22/04/2010, at 3:02 PM, Cheong Hee wrote: Hi Lachlan In other news, while announcements are in order: I started a new job a couple of weeks ago where spring+hibernate is in play. So my contributions will mostly likely slow down somewhat, not that they weren't slow already

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2010-04-22 Thread Lachlan Deck
On 22/04/2010, at 10:26 PM, Michael Schrag wrote: Congrats Lachlan! Thanks! My policy in babies, btw, is that they kind of suck for like a year, maybe a year and a half, then all of a sudden you realize they're awesome, so power through it and it will pay off :) Nah, he's a mini-me, he's

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2010-04-22 Thread Lachlan Deck
On 23/04/2010, at 3:57 AM, Chuck Hill wrote: Hi Lachlan, On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote: In other news, while announcements are in order: I started a new job a couple of weeks ago where spring+hibernate is in play. So my contributions will mostly likely slow down

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2010-04-22 Thread Lachlan Deck
On 23/04/2010, at 4:28 AM, David Holt wrote: On 2010-04-22, at 10:57 AM, Chuck Hill wrote: Hi Lachlan, On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote: In other news, while announcements are in order: I started a new job a couple of weeks ago where spring+hibernate is in play. So my

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2010-04-22 Thread Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists
Congratulations Lachlan, This is a great moment for your family. The only thing you have to worry about is that once they grow up; they will notice you spending too much time working with your computer...at least that is what mine do With Kind Regards, Dennis Gaastra, Chief Technology

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2010-04-22 Thread Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists
A little belated congratulations from Whistler, BC. Yes; there is still 330cm (11ft) of snow up here. Thanks for working on WOLips and all your support to this list. I really like the work you have done in the past. Will you be continuing to work on WOLips while working for Apple? With the

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2010-04-22 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 10-04-22 à 20:32, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists a écrit : A little belated congratulations from Whistler, BC. Yes; there is still 330cm (11ft) of snow up here. Snow, what's this? It all went away in mid March here! Thanks for working on WOLips and all your support to this list. I really

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2010-04-22 Thread Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists
Hi Pascal, I meant to say that Mike's assimilation is somewhat of a loss to the outside community; and Apple now has even one less reason to release WebObjects. Why don't you make a poll/survey: Do you believe Apple is ever going to release WebObjects to the public? Greetings, Dennis. On

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2010-04-22 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 10-04-22 à 20:55, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists a écrit : Hi Pascal, I meant to say that Mike's assimilation is somewhat of a loss to the outside community; and Apple now has even one less reason to release WebObjects. Why don't you make a poll/survey: Do you believe Apple is ever going

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2010-04-22 Thread Mike Schrag
I meant to say that Mike's assimilation is somewhat of a loss to the outside community; and Apple now has even one less reason to release WebObjects. that would be a very pessimistic view of what this means. ms ___ Do not post admin requests to the

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2010-04-22 Thread Joe Little
As I've mentioned to Chuck -- if I had to do Spring + Hibernate, I'd only go with Grails, as the GORM approach is far better than just being stuck with Hibernate Criteria. On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net wrote: Hi Lachlan, On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:40 PM,

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2010-04-22 Thread Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists
Ciao Pascale, You are great and your efforts are very much appreciated. I have also been more than my share, in driving my internal apple WebObjects contact crazy, and complaining why he can't release any of his new work outside of Apple. But as much as he feels for the community, he can't do

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2010-04-21 Thread Miguel Arroz
Hi! Congratulations! :) It's certainly good news for you, Apple and the future of WO. Best wishes for your new journey. Yours Miguel Arroz On 2010/04/21, at 17:33, Mike Schrag wrote: Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my last day at mDimension. A few

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2010-04-21 Thread David LeBer
On 2010-04-21, at 12:33 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple. Not to worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be part of my responsibilities, so I'm

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2010-04-21 Thread Mark Ritchie
On 21/Apr/2010, at 9:33 AM, Mike Schrag wrote: I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple. Congratulations! See you soon! ;-) M. ___ Do not post admin requests to the

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2010-04-21 Thread David Holt
Wow! Congratulations Mike. On 2010-04-21, at 9:33 AM, Mike Schrag wrote: Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple. Not to worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be part of my

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2010-04-21 Thread Kieran Kelleher
Congratulations Mike, a great personal win for you. Thanks for all you have contributed to WOLips/Wonder. -Kieran On Apr 21, 2010, at 12:33 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a

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2010-04-21 Thread Ricardo J. Parada
WO is in good hands! :-) On Apr 21, 2010, at 1:12 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote: Congratulations Mike, a great personal win for you. Thanks for all you have contributed to WOLips/Wonder. -Kieran On Apr 21, 2010, at 12:33 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys

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2010-04-21 Thread David Avendasora
Congratulations Mike, that's really great news! Dave On Apr 21, 2010, at 12:33 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple. Not to worry, though -- supporting WOLips and

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2010-04-21 Thread Pascal Robert
Can we pay you a couple of bucks to fix the 128 remaining Jiras for Wonder before April 30? :-) Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple. Not to worry, though -- supporting WOLips and

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2010-04-21 Thread Mike Schrag
you can if you want, but i'll be fixing them anyway, including after Apr 30 ... ms On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: Can we pay you a couple of bucks to fix the 128 remaining Jiras for Wonder before April 30? :-) Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30

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2010-04-21 Thread Anjo Krank
And for the most part, we do *not* keep other people from writing or applying patches. There are ~40 committers for Wonder. There is no reason why only Mike should do patches and stuff. Cheers, Anjo Am 21.04.2010 um 20:45 schrieb Mike Schrag: you can if you want, but i'll be fixing them

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2010-04-21 Thread Pascal Robert
I know that, but I don't have commit access :-) And yes, I do hope others will help out with commits. And for the most part, we do *not* keep other people from writing or applying patches. There are ~40 committers for Wonder. There is no reason why only Mike should do patches and stuff.

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2010-04-21 Thread Chuck Hill
It is his own fault for writing so damn much of it in the first place! :-P I try to fix things when (a) I have time and (b) I use what is being fixed so I have some idea if I am breaking things. But yes, more people could fix some of the bugs. Chuck On Apr 21, 2010, at 11:49 AM, Anjo

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2010-04-21 Thread Guido Neitzer
About time ... ;-) See you soon! Guido On 21. Apr, 2010, at 09:33 , Mike Schrag wrote: Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple. Not to worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be

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2010-04-21 Thread Kieran Kelleher
You are right - No reason at all why only Mike should do it. What are your thoughts on how someone who wants to help can qualify for commit access? Just asking :-) -Kieran On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:49 PM, Anjo Krank wrote: And for the most part, we do *not* keep other people from writing or

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2010-04-21 Thread Mike Schrag
if new people end up stepping up to do this, keep in mind that rejecting patches is just as important as applying patches ... if you want to do it, you just need to be comfortable telling people to go back to the drawing board sometimes. we tend to get pretty good quality patches for the most

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2010-04-21 Thread Mike Schrag
and btw, i'm not the only one who does it -- anjo and chuck apply their fair share as well. though, i think chuck only applies patches to AjaxModalDialog, which is basically a full time job. ms On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:05 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote: You are right - No reason at all why only Mike

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2010-04-21 Thread Ramsey Gurley
When you asked that, the first thing that popped into my head was: STOP! He who would cross the Bridge of Death Must answer me These questions three Ere the other side he see. (^_^) Ramsey On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:05 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote: You are right - No reason at all why only Mike

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2010-04-21 Thread Chuck Hill
And AjaxTabbedPanel :-P and a few of the crazy patches and WO 5.3 breaking patches that I then get yelled at for. Note to self: don't apply patches when sleepy On Apr 21, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: and btw, i'm not the only one who does it -- anjo and chuck apply their fair

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2010-04-21 Thread Ramsey Gurley
Oh, and how rude of me... Congrats Mike! (^_^) Ramsey On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:20 PM, Ramsey Gurley wrote: When you asked that, the first thing that popped into my head was: STOP! He who would cross the Bridge of Death Must answer me These questions three Ere the other side he see. (^_^)

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2010-04-21 Thread Mike Schrag
thanks everybody :) ms On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:25 PM, Ramsey Gurley wrote: Oh, and how rude of me... Congrats Mike! (^_^) Ramsey On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:20 PM, Ramsey Gurley wrote: When you asked that, the first thing that popped into my head was: STOP! He who would cross the Bridge of

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2010-04-21 Thread Alan Ward
Welcome aboard the mothership. Alan On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: thanks everybody :) ms On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:25 PM, Ramsey Gurley wrote: Oh, and how rude of me... Congrats Mike! (^_^) Ramsey On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:20 PM, Ramsey Gurley wrote: When you asked

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2010-04-21 Thread Mike Schrag
i was questioned by a confused mailing list member when i referred to someone named chuck -- of course i meant chunk. apologies for the typo. ms On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: and btw, i'm not the only one who does it -- anjo and chuck apply their fair share as well.

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2010-04-21 Thread Chuck Hill
Was that Bob Pascal? On Apr 21, 2010, at 1:43 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: i was questioned by a confused mailing list member when i referred to someone named chuck -- of course i meant chunk. apologies for the typo. ms On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: and btw, i'm not the

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2010-04-21 Thread Lon Varscsak
It always comes back to Chunk doesn't it? On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Mike Schrag msch...@pobox.com wrote: i was questioned by a confused mailing list member when i referred to someone named chuck -- of course i meant chunk. apologies for the typo. ms On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Mike

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2010-04-21 Thread Pascal Robert
http://www.screenjunkies.com/movienews/sarah-connor-vs-chunk Was that Bob Pascal? On Apr 21, 2010, at 1:43 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: i was questioned by a confused mailing list member when i referred to someone named chuck -- of course i meant chunk. apologies for the typo. ms On Apr 21,

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2010-04-21 Thread Pascal Robert
Maybe people can put their patched frameworks somewhere so that people can try them before the patch is applied to HEAD? For example, people who use H2 could try the patch I did to support the LIMIT operator and they can report if it's working for them. Even if most don't have commit

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2010-04-21 Thread Chuck Hill
Sure is getting lonely here, outside of The Mother Ship. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNQRfBAzSzo Well, that is the end of an era. I am sure that Bill and everyone at mDimension will sorely miss you. My thanks to Bill Co for all the past and future support of WebObjects (and Mike). It

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2010-04-21 Thread Lon Varscsak
Maybe Apple should just hire us all and be done with it. :P We're a drop in the bucket compared to all of their employees world wide. On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.netwrote: Sure is getting lonely here, outside of The Mother Ship.

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2010-04-21 Thread Chuck Hill
Grumble. He sure gets ornery when you call him Bob instead of Robert. On Apr 21, 2010, at 4:31 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: http://www.screenjunkies.com/movienews/sarah-connor-vs-chunk Was that Bob Pascal? On Apr 21, 2010, at 1:43 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: i was questioned by a confused mailing

Re: announcement

2010-04-21 Thread Chuck Hill
If you know WO and want to work at Apple, just ask them. I know they don't have enough skilled WO developers. I am not sure they could ever have enough. Chuck On Apr 21, 2010, at 5:39 PM, Lon Varscsak wrote: Maybe Apple should just hire us all and be done with it. :P We're a drop in

Re: announcement

2010-04-21 Thread Lachlan Deck
I was intending to look at the patch asap (e.g., weekend) seeing as I added the h2 plugin and I've got a whole bunch of unit tests utilising migrations + h2. I assume you've included any info necessary for testing the patch? But congrats Mike and thanks for all your excellent work over the

Re: announcement

2010-04-21 Thread Johnny Miller
Congratulations to both you and Apple. And thank you Apple for hiring someone to support WOLips and WOnder. best, Johnny p.s. now that you are on the inside please put the next version of WO on a CD and drop it in a bar. p.p.s don't put your name on the CD. On Apr 21, 2010, at 6:33 AM,

Re: announcement

2010-04-21 Thread Cheong Hee
Congratulations! Late to congrat due to time lapse. Nevertherless, take this opportunity to thank mDT and yourself for prompt and interesting responses. If I could not remember the rest, I will remember the one line Da Vinci Code you sent to repackaging the java files :) That helps a lot

Re: announcement

2010-04-21 Thread Cheong Hee
Hi Lachlan In other news, while announcements are in order: I started a new job a couple of weeks ago where spring+hibernate is in play. So my contributions will mostly likely slow down somewhat, not that they weren't slow already ;) Oh, and my wife and I had a little baby boy 4 weeks ago.

Re: [Announcement] WOJC databinding library released

2008-01-21 Thread David Avendasora
Wow Flor! This is great! Not only is there an overview and code there, you actually have documentation and a working example too! I think this is a big step forward for WebObjects Java Client development. I've added it to the Complimentary Frameworks on the Java Client section of the

Re: [Announcement] WOJC databinding library released

2008-01-21 Thread Chuck Hill
Very nice Florijan! With this and Paolo's alternate, the future is looking much brighter for JC than just a few months ago when I considered it a dead technology. This is the first time in years that I have though it was actually worth looking at it. Chuck On Jan 21, 2008, at 11:14 AM,

Re: [Announcement] WOJC databinding library released

2008-01-21 Thread David Avendasora
So, does the entire JBND framework exist on the client-side of the application? It looks like to me you could add a Java Client application on top of any existing web application without actually touching any of the existing code at all. Dave On Jan 21, 2008, at 2:14 PM, David

Re: [Announcement] WOJC databinding library released

2008-01-21 Thread Pascal Robert
Too bad people are moving to Flex or other alternatives :-) But it's true that Java client-side still have a future, since it's the other tech where you can use client-side EOF. Very nice Florijan! With this and Paolo's alternate, the future is looking much brighter for JC than just a

Re: [Announcement] WOJC databinding library released

2008-01-21 Thread Florijan Stamenkovic
On Jan 21, 2008, at 15:22, David Avendasora wrote: So, does the entire JBND framework exist on the client-side of the application? Yes. It looks like to me you could add a Java Client application on top of any existing web application without actually touching any of the existing code