Re: Cannot link against WO 542 api doc

2010-04-22 Thread Johann Werner
Hi Christoph,

what is your custom package-list file looking like? Do you create javadocs from 
within ant as an additional task? I have such a setup that is working for me.

jw


Am 20.04.2010 um 14:58 schrieb Christoph Wick:

 Hi there,
 
 I try to link the javadoc for my projects against the javadocs of WebObjects 
 5.4.2.
 
 Therefore I put
 
 link 
 href=http://developer.apple.com/legacy/mac/library/documentation/InternetWeb/Reference/WO542Reference//
 
 into my javadoc.xml ant file. Unfortunately I get an error message:
 
  [javadoc] javadoc: warning - Error fetching URL: 
 http://developer.apple.com/legacy/mac/library/documentation/InternetWeb/Reference/WO542Reference/package-list
 
 OK, the file package-list is missing.
 I downloaded the api docs and inserted a manually created package-list file 
 into the api docs.
 
 Doesn't work either :-(
 
 Funny to note, that it works with the WO 5.3 api doc using link 
 href=http://developer.apple.com/documentation/WebObjects/Reference/WO53_Reference//
 
 Any ideas?
 C.U.CW
 -- 
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Re: Cannot link against WO 542 api doc

2010-04-22 Thread Christoph Wick
It's a javadoc.xml ant file, generated by Eclipse. I call it from the command 
line ant -f javadoc.xml.

It looks pretty simple:

?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8 standalone=no?
project default=javadoc
target name=javadoc
javadoc access=private author=true 
classpath=../SFWeb/Libraries/iText.jar:/Library/Frameworks/FrontBasePlugIn.framework/Resources/Java/FrontBasePlugIn.jar
 [SOME SHORTENING HERE] destdir=doc doctitle=STARFileWebDemo Documentation 
nodeprecated=false nodeprecatedlist=false noindex=false nonavbar=false 
notree=false 
packagenames=net.starhealthcare.starfilewebdemo.programConfigurations.algorithms,net.starhealthcare.starfilewebdemo,net.starhealthcare.starfilewebdemo.rightsManagement,net.starhealthcare.starfilewebdemo.components,net.starhealthcare.starfilewebdemo.programConfigurations,net.starhealthcare.starfilewebdemo.demo
 source=1.5 sourcepath=Sources splitindex=true use=true version=true

!-- this DOES NOT work -- 
!-- link 
href=http://developer.apple.com/legacy/mac/library/documentation/InternetWeb/Reference/WO542Reference//
 --

!-- this WORKS --   
link 
href=http://developer.apple.com/documentation/WebObjects/Reference/WO53_Reference//
 
link href=file:/Developer/Documentation/WonderDocs/api//
link href=http://www.junit.org/junit/javadoc/4.5/
link 
href=file:/Users/wicki/Source/eclipse/Phoenix-E35/SFFoundation/doc//
link href=http://java.sun.com/javase/6/docs/api//
/javadoc
/target
/project

Thx, C.U.CW
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On 22.04.2010, at 08:43, Johann Werner wrote:

 Hi Christoph,
 
 what is your custom package-list file looking like? Do you create javadocs 
 from within ant as an additional task? I have such a setup that is working 
 for me.
 
 jw
 
 
 Am 20.04.2010 um 14:58 schrieb Christoph Wick:
 
 Hi there,
 
 I try to link the javadoc for my projects against the javadocs of WebObjects 
 5.4.2.
 
 Therefore I put
 
 link 
 href=http://developer.apple.com/legacy/mac/library/documentation/InternetWeb/Reference/WO542Reference//
 
 into my javadoc.xml ant file. Unfortunately I get an error message:
 
 [javadoc] javadoc: warning - Error fetching URL: 
 http://developer.apple.com/legacy/mac/library/documentation/InternetWeb/Reference/WO542Reference/package-list
 
 OK, the file package-list is missing.
 I downloaded the api docs and inserted a manually created package-list 
 file into the api docs.
 
 Doesn't work either :-(
 
 Funny to note, that it works with the WO 5.3 api doc using link 
 href=http://developer.apple.com/documentation/WebObjects/Reference/WO53_Reference//
 
 Any ideas?
 C.U.CW
 -- 
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 ACADEMY GmbH  Co.KG,  Pierstrasse 8,  50997 Cologne,  Germany
 Fon: +49 2236 33665-0 Fax: +49 2236 33665-90 http://www.academy.de
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Re: announcement

2010-04-22 Thread Stefan Klein

Congratulations Mike
That's a great news for all (yourself, Apple and the WO community)

Stefan


Am 21.04.10 18:33, schrieb Mike Schrag:

Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my last day 
at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple. Not to worry, 
though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be part of my responsibilities, so 
I'm far from disappearing. I think iTMS has done a really good job 
demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, with Entity Modeler app, 
eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work recently with ERModernLook. The 
folks over there appreciate the value of the WebObjects and Wonder communities, 
and I look forward to a lot of exciting things in the future.

As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have been a 
great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years before I came on, 
Bill would tell me about this framework called WebObjects and how great it was. 
When I started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a bunch of books, WWDC 
videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on The Path. mDT has also 
consistently made a substantial investment in the community, supporting every 
bit of development that I've done in WOLips, Wonder, WOWODC, and the build 
servers throughout my time here, and I applaud them for that.

For the things you guys may directly care about:

* WOLips - still working on it
* Wonder - still working on it
* Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
* WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity

To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but you can use my 
msch...@pobox.com email address.

ms
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Re: Cannot link against WO 542 api doc

2010-04-22 Thread Johann Werner
Ok, that doesn't look special. Did you try to save the whole WO542Reference on 
a local disk? The problem you already noted is the missing package-list file. 
You have to create it in the root directory of the WO542Reference folder and 
point the href inside the javadoc task to that folder. The contents of my 
package-list file is:

com.webobjects.appserver
com.webobjects.directtoweb
com.webobjects.eoaccess
com.webobjects.eoapplication
com.webobjects.eocontrol
com.webobjects.eodistribution
com.webobjects.eogeneration
com.webobjects.eointerface
com.webobjects.foundation
com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor
com.webobjects.jndiadaptor
com.webobjects.jspservlet
com.webobjects.webservices.client
com.webobjects.webservices.generation
com.webobjects.webservices.support
com.webobjects.woextensions

so creating this file and adding

link href=file:/path_to_your_downloaded_woref/WO542Reference//

should work. The 5.3.3 api does include the package file that is why there is 
no problem. No clue why Apple decided to drop it in the 5.4.x api docs.

jw


Am 22.04.2010 um 09:05 schrieb Christoph Wick:

 It's a javadoc.xml ant file, generated by Eclipse. I call it from the command 
 line ant -f javadoc.xml.
 
 It looks pretty simple:
 
 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8 standalone=no?
 project default=javadoc
target name=javadoc
javadoc access=private author=true 
 classpath=../SFWeb/Libraries/iText.jar:/Library/Frameworks/FrontBasePlugIn.framework/Resources/Java/FrontBasePlugIn.jar
  [SOME SHORTENING HERE] destdir=doc doctitle=STARFileWebDemo 
 Documentation nodeprecated=false nodeprecatedlist=false noindex=false 
 nonavbar=false notree=false 
 packagenames=net.starhealthcare.starfilewebdemo.programConfigurations.algorithms,net.starhealthcare.starfilewebdemo,net.starhealthcare.starfilewebdemo.rightsManagement,net.starhealthcare.starfilewebdemo.components,net.starhealthcare.starfilewebdemo.programConfigurations,net.starhealthcare.starfilewebdemo.demo
  source=1.5 sourcepath=Sources splitindex=true use=true 
 version=true
 
   !-- this DOES NOT work -- 
   !-- link 
 href=http://developer.apple.com/legacy/mac/library/documentation/InternetWeb/Reference/WO542Reference//
  --
 
   !-- this WORKS --   
   link 
 href=http://developer.apple.com/documentation/WebObjects/Reference/WO53_Reference//
  
   link href=file:/Developer/Documentation/WonderDocs/api//
   link href=http://www.junit.org/junit/javadoc/4.5/
   link 
 href=file:/Users/wicki/Source/eclipse/Phoenix-E35/SFFoundation/doc//
   link href=http://java.sun.com/javase/6/docs/api//
/javadoc
/target
 /project
 
 Thx, C.U.CW
 -- 
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 STAR Healthcare Management GmbH, Pierstr. 8, 50997 Cologne, Germany
 Fon:+49 2236 33665-50 Fax:+49 2236 33665-90 www.starhealthcare.info
 ---
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 On 22.04.2010, at 08:43, Johann Werner wrote:
 
 Hi Christoph,
 
 what is your custom package-list file looking like? Do you create javadocs 
 from within ant as an additional task? I have such a setup that is working 
 for me.
 
 jw
 
 
 Am 20.04.2010 um 14:58 schrieb Christoph Wick:
 
 Hi there,
 
 I try to link the javadoc for my projects against the javadocs of 
 WebObjects 5.4.2.
 
 Therefore I put
 
 link 
 href=http://developer.apple.com/legacy/mac/library/documentation/InternetWeb/Reference/WO542Reference//
 
 into my javadoc.xml ant file. Unfortunately I get an error message:
 
 [javadoc] javadoc: warning - Error fetching URL: 
 http://developer.apple.com/legacy/mac/library/documentation/InternetWeb/Reference/WO542Reference/package-list
 
 OK, the file package-list is missing.
 I downloaded the api docs and inserted a manually created package-list 
 file into the api docs.
 
 Doesn't work either :-(
 
 Funny to note, that it works with the WO 5.3 api doc using link 
 href=http://developer.apple.com/documentation/WebObjects/Reference/WO53_Reference//
 
 Any ideas?
 C.U.CW
 -- 
 Christoph Wick Director of IT Systems and Services
 ACADEMY GmbH  Co.KG,  Pierstrasse 8,  50997 Cologne,  Germany
 Fon: +49 2236 33665-0 Fax: +49 2236 33665-90 http://www.academy.de
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Re: announcement

2010-04-22 Thread James Cicenia
Simple -


Congratulations and thank you for your tireless contributions and on list help.

James Cicenia


On Apr 21, 2010, at 11:33 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:

 Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my last 
 day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple. Not to 
 worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be part of my 
 responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think iTMS has done a 
 really good job demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, with 
 Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work recently 
 with ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the value of the 
 WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look forward to a lot of exciting 
 things in the future.
 
 As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have been a 
 great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years before I came on, 
 Bill would tell me about this framework called WebObjects and how great it 
 was. When I started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a bunch of books, 
 WWDC videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on The Path. mDT has also 
 consistently made a substantial investment in the community, supporting every 
 bit of development that I've done in WOLips, Wonder, WOWODC, and the build 
 servers throughout my time here, and I applaud them for that.
 
 For the things you guys may directly care about:
 
 * WOLips - still working on it
 * Wonder - still working on it
 * Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
 * WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity
 
 To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but you can use my 
 msch...@pobox.com email address.
 
 ms
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Re: announcement

2010-04-22 Thread Henrique Prange

Hey Mike,

Congratulations and thank you for your support and endless effort all 
these years.


Cheers,

Henrique

On 21/04/10 13:33, Mike Schrag wrote:

Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my last day 
at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple. Not to worry, 
though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be part of my responsibilities, so 
I'm far from disappearing. I think iTMS has done a really good job 
demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, with Entity Modeler app, 
eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work recently with ERModernLook. The 
folks over there appreciate the value of the WebObjects and Wonder communities, 
and I look forward to a lot of exciting things in the future.

As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have been a 
great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years before I came on, 
Bill would tell me about this framework called WebObjects and how great it was. 
When I started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a bunch of books, WWDC 
videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on The Path. mDT has also 
consistently made a substantial investment in the community, supporting every 
bit of development that I've done in WOLips, Wonder, WOWODC, and the build 
servers throughout my time here, and I applaud them for that.

For the things you guys may directly care about:

* WOLips - still working on it
* Wonder - still working on it
* Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
* WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity

To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but you can use my 
msch...@pobox.com email address.

ms
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Re: announcement

2010-04-22 Thread Patrick Robinson
Wow, this already feels belated!  But I'll add my congratulations to the heap.  
Thanks for all you've done for WO from the outside, and Here's to many more 
fruitful WO years ahead!

- Patrick


On Apr 21, 2010, at 12:33 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:

 Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my last 
 day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple. Not to 
 worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be part of my 
 responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think iTMS has done a 
 really good job demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, with 
 Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work recently 
 with ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the value of the 
 WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look forward to a lot of exciting 
 things in the future.
 
 As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have been a 
 great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years before I came on, 
 Bill would tell me about this framework called WebObjects and how great it 
 was. When I started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a bunch of books, 
 WWDC videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on The Path. mDT has also 
 consistently made a substantial investment in the community, supporting every 
 bit of development that I've done in WOLips, Wonder, WOWODC, and the build 
 servers throughout my time here, and I applaud them for that.
 
 For the things you guys may directly care about:
 
 * WOLips - still working on it
 * Wonder - still working on it
 * Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
 * WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity
 
 To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but you can use my 
 msch...@pobox.com email address.
 
 ms
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Re: announcement

2010-04-22 Thread Alan Ward

We're hiring.  
Alan

On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:

 If you know WO and want to work at Apple, just ask them.  I know they don't 
 have enough skilled WO developers.  I am not sure they could ever have enough.
 
 
 Chuck
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 5:39 PM, Lon Varscsak wrote:
 
 Maybe Apple should just hire us all and be done with it. :P  We're a drop in 
 the bucket compared to all of their employees world wide.
 
 On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net wrote:
 Sure is getting lonely here, outside of The Mother Ship.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNQRfBAzSzo
 
 Well, that is the end of an era.  I am sure that Bill and everyone at 
 mDimension will sorely miss you.  My thanks to Bill  Co for all the past 
 and future support of WebObjects (and Mike).  It has been really great and 
 it is good to know that they will remain active in WebObjects (albeit at 
 perhaps a slightly less frantic pace).
 
 And congratulations to Apple for sucking Mike The Unstoppable Code Machine 
 Schrag into it's black hole vortex of WO developers.  Did I mention it is 
 getting lonely out here?  I am sure good things will come of this.  I hope 
 we still see you on the lists now and then.
 
 Looking forward to seeing you again at WWDC / WOWODC.
 
 
 Chuck
 
 
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:
 
 Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my last 
 day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple. Not to 
 worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be part of my 
 responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think iTMS has done a 
 really good job demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, with 
 Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work recently 
 with ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the value of the 
 WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look forward to a lot of exciting 
 things in the future.
 
 As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have been a 
 great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years before I came on, 
 Bill would tell me about this framework called WebObjects and how great it 
 was. When I started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a bunch of books, 
 WWDC videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on The Path. mDT has also 
 consistently made a substantial investment in the community, supporting 
 every bit of development that I've done in WOLips, Wonder, WOWODC, and the 
 build servers throughout my time here, and I applaud them for that.
 
 For the things you guys may directly care about:
 
 * WOLips - still working on it
 * Wonder - still working on it
 * Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
 * WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity
 
 To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but you can use my 
 msch...@pobox.com email address.
 
 
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Re: announcement

2010-04-22 Thread David Holt
No! don't take everyone from the list ;-)

d

On 2010-04-22, at 7:45 AM, Alan Ward wrote:

 
 We're hiring.  
 Alan
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
 
 If you know WO and want to work at Apple, just ask them.  I know they don't 
 have enough skilled WO developers.  I am not sure they could ever have 
 enough.
 
 
 Chuck
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 5:39 PM, Lon Varscsak wrote:
 
 Maybe Apple should just hire us all and be done with it. :P  We're a drop 
 in the bucket compared to all of their employees world wide.
 
 On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net 
 wrote:
 Sure is getting lonely here, outside of The Mother Ship.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNQRfBAzSzo
 
 Well, that is the end of an era.  I am sure that Bill and everyone at 
 mDimension will sorely miss you.  My thanks to Bill  Co for all the past 
 and future support of WebObjects (and Mike).  It has been really great and 
 it is good to know that they will remain active in WebObjects (albeit at 
 perhaps a slightly less frantic pace).
 
 And congratulations to Apple for sucking Mike The Unstoppable Code 
 Machine Schrag into it's black hole vortex of WO developers.  Did I 
 mention it is getting lonely out here?  I am sure good things will come of 
 this.  I hope we still see you on the lists now and then.
 
 Looking forward to seeing you again at WWDC / WOWODC.
 
 
 Chuck
 
 
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:
 
 Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my last 
 day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple. Not to 
 worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be part of my 
 responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think iTMS has done a 
 really good job demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, with 
 Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work recently 
 with ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the value of the 
 WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look forward to a lot of exciting 
 things in the future.
 
 As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have been a 
 great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years before I came 
 on, Bill would tell me about this framework called WebObjects and how great 
 it was. When I started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a bunch of 
 books, WWDC videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on The Path. mDT 
 has also consistently made a substantial investment in the community, 
 supporting every bit of development that I've done in WOLips, Wonder, 
 WOWODC, and the build servers throughout my time here, and I applaud them 
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 * Wonder - still working on it
 * Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
 * WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity
 
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Re: announcement

2010-04-22 Thread Pascal Robert
1+, Apple should only hire anonymous WO devs, not the ones who are  
actually helping the community :-)



No! don't take everyone from the list ;-)

d

On 2010-04-22, at 7:45 AM, Alan Ward wrote:



We're hiring.
Alan

On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:

If you know WO and want to work at Apple, just ask them.  I know  
they don't have enough skilled WO developers.  I am not sure they  
could ever have enough.



Chuck

On Apr 21, 2010, at 5:39 PM, Lon Varscsak wrote:

Maybe Apple should just hire us all and be done with it. :P   
We're a drop in the bucket compared to all of their employees  
world wide.


On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net 
 wrote:

Sure is getting lonely here, outside of The Mother Ship.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNQRfBAzSzo

Well, that is the end of an era.  I am sure that Bill and  
everyone at mDimension will sorely miss you.  My thanks to Bill   
Co for all the past and future support of WebObjects (and Mike).   
It has been really great and it is good to know that they will  
remain active in WebObjects (albeit at perhaps a slightly less  
frantic pace).


And congratulations to Apple for sucking Mike The Unstoppable  
Code Machine Schrag into it's black hole vortex of WO  
developers.  Did I mention it is getting lonely out here?  I am  
sure good things will come of this.  I hope we still see you on  
the lists now and then.


Looking forward to seeing you again at WWDC / WOWODC.


Chuck



On Apr 21, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:

Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will  
be my last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a  
position at Apple. Not to worry, though -- supporting WOLips and  
Wonder will be part of my responsibilities, so I'm far from  
disappearing. I think iTMS has done a really good job  
demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, with Entity  
Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work  
recently with ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the  
value of the WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look  
forward to a lot of exciting things in the future.


As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They  
have been a great company to work for over the past 5 years. For  
years before I came on, Bill would tell me about this framework  
called WebObjects and how great it was. When I started at mDT, he  
got me going with WO with a bunch of books, WWDC videos, and  
helpful guidance, and they set me on The Path. mDT has also  
consistently made a substantial investment in the community,  
supporting every bit of development that I've done in WOLips,  
Wonder, WOWODC, and the build servers throughout my time here,  
and I applaud them for that.


For the things you guys may directly care about:

* WOLips - still working on it
* Wonder - still working on it
* Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
* WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple  
capacity


To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but you  
can use my msch...@pobox.com email address.



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Re: announcement

2010-04-22 Thread Alan Ward

Mike's not going to disappear you know.  

On Apr 22, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:

 1+, Apple should only hire anonymous WO devs, not the ones who are actually 
 helping the community :-)
 
 No! don't take everyone from the list ;-)
 
 d
 
 On 2010-04-22, at 7:45 AM, Alan Ward wrote:
 
 
 We're hiring.
 Alan
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
 
 If you know WO and want to work at Apple, just ask them.  I know they 
 don't have enough skilled WO developers.  I am not sure they could ever 
 have enough.
 
 
 Chuck
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 5:39 PM, Lon Varscsak wrote:
 
 Maybe Apple should just hire us all and be done with it. :P  We're a drop 
 in the bucket compared to all of their employees world wide.
 
 On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net 
 wrote:
 Sure is getting lonely here, outside of The Mother Ship.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNQRfBAzSzo
 
 Well, that is the end of an era.  I am sure that Bill and everyone at 
 mDimension will sorely miss you.  My thanks to Bill  Co for all the past 
 and future support of WebObjects (and Mike).  It has been really great 
 and it is good to know that they will remain active in WebObjects (albeit 
 at perhaps a slightly less frantic pace).
 
 And congratulations to Apple for sucking Mike The Unstoppable Code 
 Machine Schrag into it's black hole vortex of WO developers.  Did I 
 mention it is getting lonely out here?  I am sure good things will come 
 of this.  I hope we still see you on the lists now and then.
 
 Looking forward to seeing you again at WWDC / WOWODC.
 
 
 Chuck
 
 
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:
 
 Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my 
 last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple. 
 Not to worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be part of my 
 responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think iTMS has done a 
 really good job demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, 
 with Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work 
 recently with ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the value of 
 the WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look forward to a lot of 
 exciting things in the future.
 
 As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have been 
 a great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years before I 
 came on, Bill would tell me about this framework called WebObjects and 
 how great it was. When I started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a 
 bunch of books, WWDC videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on The 
 Path. mDT has also consistently made a substantial investment in the 
 community, supporting every bit of development that I've done in WOLips, 
 Wonder, WOWODC, and the build servers throughout my time here, and I 
 applaud them for that.
 
 For the things you guys may directly care about:
 
 * WOLips - still working on it
 * Wonder - still working on it
 * Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
 * WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity
 
 To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but you can use 
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Re: announcement

2010-04-22 Thread David Avendasora
:-) I think we're all hoping/expecting that that's the case, but there's been 
others who start working at Apple and then suddenly stop posting, or only post 
rarely. 

With someone as high profile and insanely helpful as Mike I think many of us 
are just a little nervous about it.

Dave

On Apr 22, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Alan Ward wrote:

 
 Mike's not going to disappear you know.  
 
 On Apr 22, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:
 
 1+, Apple should only hire anonymous WO devs, not the ones who are actually 
 helping the community :-)
 
 No! don't take everyone from the list ;-)
 
 d
 
 On 2010-04-22, at 7:45 AM, Alan Ward wrote:
 
 
 We're hiring.
 Alan
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
 
 If you know WO and want to work at Apple, just ask them.  I know they 
 don't have enough skilled WO developers.  I am not sure they could ever 
 have enough.
 
 
 Chuck
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 5:39 PM, Lon Varscsak wrote:
 
 Maybe Apple should just hire us all and be done with it. :P  We're a 
 drop in the bucket compared to all of their employees world wide.
 
 On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net 
 wrote:
 Sure is getting lonely here, outside of The Mother Ship.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNQRfBAzSzo
 
 Well, that is the end of an era.  I am sure that Bill and everyone at 
 mDimension will sorely miss you.  My thanks to Bill  Co for all the 
 past and future support of WebObjects (and Mike).  It has been really 
 great and it is good to know that they will remain active in WebObjects 
 (albeit at perhaps a slightly less frantic pace).
 
 And congratulations to Apple for sucking Mike The Unstoppable Code 
 Machine Schrag into it's black hole vortex of WO developers.  Did I 
 mention it is getting lonely out here?  I am sure good things will come 
 of this.  I hope we still see you on the lists now and then.
 
 Looking forward to seeing you again at WWDC / WOWODC.
 
 
 Chuck
 
 
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:
 
 Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my 
 last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple. 
 Not to worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be part of my 
 responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think iTMS has done a 
 really good job demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, 
 with Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work 
 recently with ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the value of 
 the WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look forward to a lot of 
 exciting things in the future.
 
 As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have 
 been a great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years before 
 I came on, Bill would tell me about this framework called WebObjects and 
 how great it was. When I started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a 
 bunch of books, WWDC videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on 
 The Path. mDT has also consistently made a substantial investment in the 
 community, supporting every bit of development that I've done in WOLips, 
 Wonder, WOWODC, and the build servers throughout my time here, and I 
 applaud them for that.
 
 For the things you guys may directly care about:
 
 * WOLips - still working on it
 * Wonder - still working on it
 * Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
 * WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity
 
 To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but you can 
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Finding why two UPDATES are send

2010-04-22 Thread Pascal Robert
I have a strange problem, but I don't know how to debug it. We have a  
store where we contact our billing system (based on SQL Server  
2005...) to create a invoice and tell them order that's complete.  
Problem is, two UPDATE calls are sent to SQL Server, and the second  
one creates problems. The two UPDATE calls are send in a 700ms to  
1200ms interval, and no other SQL calls are done.


So the first UPDATE is sent when I do :

  commande.setCommandeComplet(Boolean.TRUE);
  ec().saveChanges();

That should do only one UPDATE call, and I enabled log4j debugging in  
setCommandeComplet to see if something else was updating the  
attribute, and it's updated only one time, so I really don't know why  
a second UPDATE call is done 700-1200ms later.


What's the best way to debug this?


Pascal Robert
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Twitter : MacTICanada
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RE: announcement

2010-04-22 Thread Beatty, Daniel D CIV NAVAIR, 474300D
Greetings Mike and all,
Congratulations to Mike.   I can't think of someone who has contributed as much 
as the unstoppable machine.   

As for Apple hiring, I think that is great.   As for myself, I am currently 
working for Uncle Sam and I have another year on my contract.  Well, the WO 
train is definitely something to look forward to.

Later,

Daniel Beatty 
Computer Scientist, Detonation Sciences Branch 
Code 4743000 
2400 E. Pilot Plant Rd. 
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-Original Message-
From: webobjects-dev-bounces+daniel.beatty=navy@lists.apple.com on behalf 
of David Avendasora
Sent: Thu 4/22/2010 8:45 AM
To: Alan Ward
Cc: WO Dev Group
Subject: Re: announcement
 
:-) I think we're all hoping/expecting that that's the case, but there's been 
others who start working at Apple and then suddenly stop posting, or only post 
rarely. 

With someone as high profile and insanely helpful as Mike I think many of us 
are just a little nervous about it.

Dave

On Apr 22, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Alan Ward wrote:

 
 Mike's not going to disappear you know.  
 
 On Apr 22, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:
 
 1+, Apple should only hire anonymous WO devs, not the ones who are actually 
 helping the community :-)
 
 No! don't take everyone from the list ;-)
 
 d
 
 On 2010-04-22, at 7:45 AM, Alan Ward wrote:
 
 
 We're hiring.
 Alan
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
 
 If you know WO and want to work at Apple, just ask them.  I know they 
 don't have enough skilled WO developers.  I am not sure they could ever 
 have enough.
 
 
 Chuck
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 5:39 PM, Lon Varscsak wrote:
 
 Maybe Apple should just hire us all and be done with it. :P  We're a 
 drop in the bucket compared to all of their employees world wide.
 
 On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net 
 wrote:
 Sure is getting lonely here, outside of The Mother Ship.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNQRfBAzSzo
 
 Well, that is the end of an era.  I am sure that Bill and everyone at 
 mDimension will sorely miss you.  My thanks to Bill  Co for all the 
 past and future support of WebObjects (and Mike).  It has been really 
 great and it is good to know that they will remain active in WebObjects 
 (albeit at perhaps a slightly less frantic pace).
 
 And congratulations to Apple for sucking Mike The Unstoppable Code 
 Machine Schrag into it's black hole vortex of WO developers.  Did I 
 mention it is getting lonely out here?  I am sure good things will come 
 of this.  I hope we still see you on the lists now and then.
 
 Looking forward to seeing you again at WWDC / WOWODC.
 
 
 Chuck
 
 
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:
 
 Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my 
 last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple. 
 Not to worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be part of my 
 responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think iTMS has done a 
 really good job demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, 
 with Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work 
 recently with ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the value of 
 the WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look forward to a lot of 
 exciting things in the future.
 
 As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have 
 been a great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years before 
 I came on, Bill would tell me about this framework called WebObjects and 
 how great it was. When I started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a 
 bunch of books, WWDC videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on 
 The Path. mDT has also consistently made a substantial investment in the 
 community, supporting every bit of development that I've done in WOLips, 
 Wonder, WOWODC, and the build servers throughout my time here, and I 
 applaud them for that.
 
 For the things you guys may directly care about:
 
 * WOLips - still working on it
 * Wonder - still working on it
 * Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
 * WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity
 
 To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but you can 
 use my msch...@pobox.com email address.
 
 
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Re: announcement

2010-04-22 Thread David LeBer

On 2010-04-22, at 11:45 AM, David Avendasora wrote:

 :-) I think we're all hoping/expecting that that's the case, but there's been 
 others who start working at Apple and then suddenly stop posting, or only 
 post rarely. 
 
 With someone as high profile and insanely helpful as Mike I think many of us 
 are just a little nervous about it.

Apple has secrets to keep, and everyone is pretty aware of the lengths they 
will go to keep them.

In addition, many people will interpret a message from someone with an 
apple.com email address (especially someone with Mike's profile) as being (at 
least partially) a statement from Apple (no matter how much effort is put into 
disclaiming it.)

Those two things have got to have a chilling effect. 

I am optimistic that Mike will remain very active in the community. If that 
doesn't include being as outspoken in public venues, I will understand why.

 
 Dave
 
 On Apr 22, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Alan Ward wrote:
 
 
 Mike's not going to disappear you know.  
 
 On Apr 22, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:
 
 1+, Apple should only hire anonymous WO devs, not the ones who are actually 
 helping the community :-)
 
 No! don't take everyone from the list ;-)
 
 d
 
 On 2010-04-22, at 7:45 AM, Alan Ward wrote:
 
 
 We're hiring.
 Alan
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
 
 If you know WO and want to work at Apple, just ask them.  I know they 
 don't have enough skilled WO developers.  I am not sure they could ever 
 have enough.
 
 
 Chuck
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 5:39 PM, Lon Varscsak wrote:
 
 Maybe Apple should just hire us all and be done with it. :P  We're a 
 drop in the bucket compared to all of their employees world wide.
 
 On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net 
 wrote:
 Sure is getting lonely here, outside of The Mother Ship.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNQRfBAzSzo
 
 Well, that is the end of an era.  I am sure that Bill and everyone at 
 mDimension will sorely miss you.  My thanks to Bill  Co for all the 
 past and future support of WebObjects (and Mike).  It has been really 
 great and it is good to know that they will remain active in WebObjects 
 (albeit at perhaps a slightly less frantic pace).
 
 And congratulations to Apple for sucking Mike The Unstoppable Code 
 Machine Schrag into it's black hole vortex of WO developers.  Did I 
 mention it is getting lonely out here?  I am sure good things will come 
 of this.  I hope we still see you on the lists now and then.
 
 Looking forward to seeing you again at WWDC / WOWODC.
 
 
 Chuck
 
 
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:
 
 Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my 
 last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at 
 Apple. Not to worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be 
 part of my responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think iTMS 
 has done a really good job demonstrating that they're committed to 
 contributing, with Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial 
 amount of work recently with ERModernLook. The folks over there 
 appreciate the value of the WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I 
 look forward to a lot of exciting things in the future.
 
 As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have 
 been a great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years 
 before I came on, Bill would tell me about this framework called 
 WebObjects and how great it was. When I started at mDT, he got me going 
 with WO with a bunch of books, WWDC videos, and helpful guidance, and 
 they set me on The Path. mDT has also consistently made a substantial 
 investment in the community, supporting every bit of development that 
 I've done in WOLips, Wonder, WOWODC, and the build servers throughout 
 my time here, and I applaud them for that.
 
 For the things you guys may directly care about:
 
 * WOLips - still working on it
 * Wonder - still working on it
 * Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
 * WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity
 
 To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but you can 
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Re: announcement

2010-04-22 Thread Mike Schrag
 In addition, many people will interpret a message from someone with an 
 apple.com email address (especially someone with Mike's profile) as being (at 
 least partially) a statement from Apple (no matter how much effort is put 
 into disclaiming it.)
you won't see me ever post from an apple.com email address, so that works out 
quite nicely :)

ms
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Re: announcement

2010-04-22 Thread David LeBer

On 2010-04-22, at 12:27 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:

 In addition, many people will interpret a message from someone with an 
 apple.com email address (especially someone with Mike's profile) as being 
 (at least partially) a statement from Apple (no matter how much effort is 
 put into disclaiming it.)
 you won't see me ever post from an apple.com email address, so that works out 
 quite nicely :)
 
 ms

Oh, well that's different. I expect you to continue to be your usual 
loose-lipped self then.

;-)

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Re: announcement

2010-04-22 Thread Chuck Hill


On Apr 22, 2010, at 9:04 AM, David LeBer wrote:



On 2010-04-22, at 11:45 AM, David Avendasora wrote:

:-) I think we're all hoping/expecting that that's the case, but  
there's been others who start working at Apple and then suddenly  
stop posting, or only post rarely.


With someone as high profile and insanely helpful as Mike I think  
many of us are just a little nervous about it.


Apple has secrets to keep, and everyone is pretty aware of the  
lengths they will go to keep them.


Unless, of course, they  have been drinking German beer...

Sadly for us, Mike does not drink German beer so Apple's secrets will  
remain safe.





In addition, many people will interpret a message from someone with  
an apple.com email address (especially someone with Mike's profile)  
as being (at least partially) a statement from Apple (no matter how  
much effort is put into disclaiming it.)


Those two things have got to have a chilling effect.

I am optimistic that Mike will remain very active in the community.  
If that doesn't include being as outspoken in public venues, I will  
understand why.




Dave

On Apr 22, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Alan Ward wrote:



Mike's not going to disappear you know.

On Apr 22, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:

1+, Apple should only hire anonymous WO devs, not the ones who  
are actually helping the community :-)



No! don't take everyone from the list ;-)

d

On 2010-04-22, at 7:45 AM, Alan Ward wrote:



We're hiring.
Alan

On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:

If you know WO and want to work at Apple, just ask them.  I  
know they don't have enough skilled WO developers.  I am not  
sure they could ever have enough.



Chuck

On Apr 21, 2010, at 5:39 PM, Lon Varscsak wrote:

Maybe Apple should just hire us all and be done with it. :P   
We're a drop in the bucket compared to all of their employees  
world wide.


On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net 
 wrote:

Sure is getting lonely here, outside of The Mother Ship.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNQRfBAzSzo

Well, that is the end of an era.  I am sure that Bill and  
everyone at mDimension will sorely miss you.  My thanks to  
Bill  Co for all the past and future support of WebObjects  
(and Mike).  It has been really great and it is good to know  
that they will remain active in WebObjects (albeit at perhaps  
a slightly less frantic pace).


And congratulations to Apple for sucking Mike The  
Unstoppable Code Machine Schrag into it's black hole vortex  
of WO developers.  Did I mention it is getting lonely out  
here?  I am sure good things will come of this.  I hope we  
still see you on the lists now and then.


Looking forward to seeing you again at WWDC / WOWODC.


Chuck



On Apr 21, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:

Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30  
will be my last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I  
accepted a position at Apple. Not to worry, though --  
supporting WOLips and Wonder will be part of my  
responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think iTMS  
has done a really good job demonstrating that they're  
committed to contributing, with Entity Modeler app,  
eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work recently with  
ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the value of  
the WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look forward to  
a lot of exciting things in the future.


As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms.  
They have been a great company to work for over the past 5  
years. For years before I came on, Bill would tell me about  
this framework called WebObjects and how great it was. When I  
started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a bunch of  
books, WWDC videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on  
The Path. mDT has also consistently made a substantial  
investment in the community, supporting every bit of  
development that I've done in WOLips, Wonder, WOWODC, and the  
build servers throughout my time here, and I applaud them for  
that.


For the things you guys may directly care about:

* WOLips - still working on it
* Wonder - still working on it
* Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
* WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple  
capacity


To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but  
you can use my msch...@pobox.com email address.



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updating hudson

2010-04-22 Thread Mike Schrag
hudson is in a funky state at the moment ... excuse our mess ... where's my 
animated construction worker gif?

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Re: announcement

2010-04-22 Thread Cheong Hee Ng
It had been better if the Apple hiring could extends to regional.  Thus open
up another option to fewer to consider than moving into other technologies.
Does that mean Mike going to Cupertino?


On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Beatty, Daniel D CIV NAVAIR, 474300D 
daniel.bea...@navy.mil wrote:

 Greetings Mike and all,
 Congratulations to Mike.   I can't think of someone who has contributed as
 much as the unstoppable machine.

 As for Apple hiring, I think that is great.   As for myself, I am currently
 working for Uncle Sam and I have another year on my contract.  Well, the WO
 train is definitely something to look forward to.

 Later,

 Daniel Beatty
 Computer Scientist, Detonation Sciences Branch
 Code 4743000
 2400 E. Pilot Plant Rd.
 China Lake, CA 93555-6107
 daniel.bea...@navy.mil
 (760) 939-7097



 -Original Message-
 From: webobjects-dev-bounces+daniel.beatty=navy@lists.apple.com on
 behalf of David Avendasora
 Sent: Thu 4/22/2010 8:45 AM
 To: Alan Ward
 Cc: WO Dev Group
 Subject: Re: announcement

 :-) I think we're all hoping/expecting that that's the case, but there's
 been others who start working at Apple and then suddenly stop posting, or
 only post rarely.

 With someone as high profile and insanely helpful as Mike I think many of
 us are just a little nervous about it.

 Dave

 On Apr 22, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Alan Ward wrote:

 
  Mike's not going to disappear you know.
 
  On Apr 22, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:
 
  1+, Apple should only hire anonymous WO devs, not the ones who are
 actually helping the community :-)
 
  No! don't take everyone from the list ;-)
 
  d
 
  On 2010-04-22, at 7:45 AM, Alan Ward wrote:
 
 
  We're hiring.
  Alan
 
  On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
 
  If you know WO and want to work at Apple, just ask them.  I know they
 don't have enough skilled WO developers.  I am not sure they could ever have
 enough.
 
 
  Chuck
 
  On Apr 21, 2010, at 5:39 PM, Lon Varscsak wrote:
 
  Maybe Apple should just hire us all and be done with it. :P  We're a
 drop in the bucket compared to all of their employees world wide.
 
  On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Chuck Hill 
 ch...@global-village.net wrote:
  Sure is getting lonely here, outside of The Mother Ship.
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNQRfBAzSzo
 
  Well, that is the end of an era.  I am sure that Bill and everyone
 at mDimension will sorely miss you.  My thanks to Bill  Co for all the past
 and future support of WebObjects (and Mike).  It has been really great and
 it is good to know that they will remain active in WebObjects (albeit at
 perhaps a slightly less frantic pace).
 
  And congratulations to Apple for sucking Mike The Unstoppable Code
 Machine Schrag into it's black hole vortex of WO developers.  Did I mention
 it is getting lonely out here?  I am sure good things will come of this.  I
 hope we still see you on the lists now and then.
 
  Looking forward to seeing you again at WWDC / WOWODC.
 
 
  Chuck
 
 
 
  On Apr 21, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:
 
  Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be
 my last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple.
 Not to worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be part of my
 responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think iTMS has done a
 really good job demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, with
 Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work recently
 with ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the value of the
 WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look forward to a lot of exciting
 things in the future.
 
  As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have
 been a great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years before I
 came on, Bill would tell me about this framework called WebObjects and how
 great it was. When I started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a bunch of
 books, WWDC videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on The Path. mDT
 has also consistently made a substantial investment in the community,
 supporting every bit of development that I've done in WOLips, Wonder,
 WOWODC, and the build servers throughout my time here, and I applaud them
 for that.
 
  For the things you guys may directly care about:
 
  * WOLips - still working on it
  * Wonder - still working on it
  * Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
  * WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity
 
  To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but you
 can use my msch...@pobox.com email address.
 
 
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Re: Finding why two UPDATES are send

2010-04-22 Thread Cheong Hee Ng
had tried with different browsers?

On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 11:54 PM, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca wrote:

 I have a strange problem, but I don't know how to debug it. We have a store
 where we contact our billing system (based on SQL Server 2005...) to create
 a invoice and tell them order that's complete. Problem is, two UPDATE calls
 are sent to SQL Server, and the second one creates problems. The two UPDATE
 calls are send in a 700ms to 1200ms interval, and no other SQL calls are
 done.

 So the first UPDATE is sent when I do :

  commande.setCommandeComplet(Boolean.TRUE);
  ec().saveChanges();

 That should do only one UPDATE call, and I enabled log4j debugging in
 setCommandeComplet to see if something else was updating the attribute, and
 it's updated only one time, so I really don't know why a second UPDATE call
 is done 700-1200ms later.

 What's the best way to debug this?

 
 Pascal Robert
 prob...@macti.ca

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Re: Finding why two UPDATES are send

2010-04-22 Thread Pascal Robert
Tried with both Firefox and Safari, same issues.

 had tried with different browsers?
 
 On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 11:54 PM, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca wrote:
 I have a strange problem, but I don't know how to debug it. We have a store 
 where we contact our billing system (based on SQL Server 2005...) to create a 
 invoice and tell them order that's complete. Problem is, two UPDATE calls are 
 sent to SQL Server, and the second one creates problems. The two UPDATE calls 
 are send in a 700ms to 1200ms interval, and no other SQL calls are done.
 
 So the first UPDATE is sent when I do :
 
  commande.setCommandeComplet(Boolean.TRUE);
  ec().saveChanges();
 
 That should do only one UPDATE call, and I enabled log4j debugging in 
 setCommandeComplet to see if something else was updating the attribute, and 
 it's updated only one time, so I really don't know why a second UPDATE call 
 is done 700-1200ms later.
 
 What's the best way to debug this?
 
 
 Pascal Robert
 prob...@macti.ca
 
 AIM: MacTICanada
 Twitter : MacTICanada
 LinkedIn : http://www.linkedin.com/in/macti
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Re: Issues with H2

2010-04-22 Thread Pascal Robert
No luck with Movies.URL or the in-mem db, I still have that one connection that 
switch to the different URL. I did a grep on all index.eomodeld and Properties 
files in the workspace and I didn't have any where the URL is set to the build 
frameworks :-/  I also tried to set the URL to a different path, no luck.

 Hi Pascal,
 
 I seem to recall Ravi adjusting some properties recently in Wonder also - so 
 you might want to try setting Movies.URL=jdbc...etc in case this is 
 overriding your settings. The global setting should have won though.
 
 On 21/04/2010, at 11:16 AM, Lachlan Deck wrote:
 
 On 20/04/2010, at 7:58 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:
 
 Ok, it look like my issues with migrations for ERMoviesLogic are because of 
 JDBC URL switching!  When the ERAttachment, ERAttachmentData and ERTag 
 tables are created, my connection dictionary is :
 
 avr. 20 05:47:23 Movies[62935] DEBUG NSLog  -  connecting with dictionary: 
 {plugin = H2PlugIn; username = ; driver = org.h2.Driver; password = 
 password deleted for log; URL = jdbc:h2:/Resources/Movies; }
 
 But when it creates the MovieTag table, it's switching to another URL!
 
 avr. 20 05:47:24 Movies[62935] DEBUG NSLog  -  connecting with dictionary: 
 {plugin = H2PlugIn; username = ; driver = org.h2.Driver; LC_ALL = 
 iso_1; password = password deleted for log; databaseEncoding = ISO 
 Latin-1; URL = 
 jdbc:h2:file:/Users/probert/Tools/Src/Wonder/Wonder/Frameworks/BusinessLogic/ERMoviesLogic/build/ERMoviesLogic.framework/Resources/Movies;
  }
 
 That is weird, and I'm using global properties :
 
 dbConnectUserGLOBAL=
 dbConnectPasswordGLOBAL=
 dbConnectDriverGLOBAL=org.h2.Driver
 dbConnectPluginGLOBAL=H2PlugIn
 dbConnectURLGLOBAL=jdbc:h2:/Resources/Movies
 
 Haven't tried with those models but you should only need:
 dbConnectUserGLOBAL=
 dbConnectPasswordGLOBAL=
 dbConnectURLGLOBAL=jdbc:h2:/Resources/Movies
 
 # handled by h2 plugin
 ##dbConnectDriverGLOBAL=org.h2.Driver
 ##dbConnectPluginGLOBAL=H2PlugIn
 
 You can try just using in-mem db also just to make sure you've got no errors.
 dbConnectURLGLOBAL=jdbc:h2:mem:Movies
 
 
 And I don't have this problem with MySQL, which make it even worse. In 
 fact, in MySQL no MovieTag is created at all. Anyone here tried to add 
 ERTaggable stuff in a H2 db?
 
 --
 
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 prob...@macti.ca
 
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Re: announcement

2010-04-22 Thread Mike Schrag
nope ... i'll be remaining in my secluded cabin in the woods of Virginia 
writing manifestos.

ms

On Apr 22, 2010, at 12:45 PM, Cheong Hee Ng wrote:

 It had been better if the Apple hiring could extends to regional.  Thus open 
 up another option to fewer to consider than moving into other technologies.  
 Does that mean Mike going to Cupertino?
 
 
 On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Beatty, Daniel D CIV NAVAIR, 474300D 
 daniel.bea...@navy.mil wrote:
 Greetings Mike and all,
 Congratulations to Mike.   I can't think of someone who has contributed as 
 much as the unstoppable machine.
 
 As for Apple hiring, I think that is great.   As for myself, I am currently 
 working for Uncle Sam and I have another year on my contract.  Well, the WO 
 train is definitely something to look forward to.
 
 Later,
 
 Daniel Beatty
 Computer Scientist, Detonation Sciences Branch
 Code 4743000
 2400 E. Pilot Plant Rd.
 China Lake, CA 93555-6107
 daniel.bea...@navy.mil
 (760) 939-7097
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: webobjects-dev-bounces+daniel.beatty=navy@lists.apple.com on behalf 
 of David Avendasora
 Sent: Thu 4/22/2010 8:45 AM
 To: Alan Ward
 Cc: WO Dev Group
 Subject: Re: announcement
 
 :-) I think we're all hoping/expecting that that's the case, but there's been 
 others who start working at Apple and then suddenly stop posting, or only 
 post rarely.
 
 With someone as high profile and insanely helpful as Mike I think many of us 
 are just a little nervous about it.
 
 Dave
 
 On Apr 22, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Alan Ward wrote:
 
 
  Mike's not going to disappear you know.
 
  On Apr 22, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:
 
  1+, Apple should only hire anonymous WO devs, not the ones who are 
  actually helping the community :-)
 
  No! don't take everyone from the list ;-)
 
  d
 
  On 2010-04-22, at 7:45 AM, Alan Ward wrote:
 
 
  We're hiring.
  Alan
 
  On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
 
  If you know WO and want to work at Apple, just ask them.  I know they 
  don't have enough skilled WO developers.  I am not sure they could ever 
  have enough.
 
 
  Chuck
 
  On Apr 21, 2010, at 5:39 PM, Lon Varscsak wrote:
 
  Maybe Apple should just hire us all and be done with it. :P  We're a 
  drop in the bucket compared to all of their employees world wide.
 
  On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net 
  wrote:
  Sure is getting lonely here, outside of The Mother Ship.
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNQRfBAzSzo
 
  Well, that is the end of an era.  I am sure that Bill and everyone at 
  mDimension will sorely miss you.  My thanks to Bill  Co for all the 
  past and future support of WebObjects (and Mike).  It has been really 
  great and it is good to know that they will remain active in 
  WebObjects (albeit at perhaps a slightly less frantic pace).
 
  And congratulations to Apple for sucking Mike The Unstoppable Code 
  Machine Schrag into it's black hole vortex of WO developers.  Did I 
  mention it is getting lonely out here?  I am sure good things will 
  come of this.  I hope we still see you on the lists now and then.
 
  Looking forward to seeing you again at WWDC / WOWODC.
 
 
  Chuck
 
 
 
  On Apr 21, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:
 
  Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my 
  last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at 
  Apple. Not to worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be 
  part of my responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think 
  iTMS has done a really good job demonstrating that they're committed 
  to contributing, with Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a 
  substantial amount of work recently with ERModernLook. The folks over 
  there appreciate the value of the WebObjects and Wonder communities, 
  and I look forward to a lot of exciting things in the future.
 
  As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have 
  been a great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years 
  before I came on, Bill would tell me about this framework called 
  WebObjects and how great it was. When I started at mDT, he got me 
  going with WO with a bunch of books, WWDC videos, and helpful 
  guidance, and they set me on The Path. mDT has also consistently made 
  a substantial investment in the community, supporting every bit of 
  development that I've done in WOLips, Wonder, WOWODC, and the build 
  servers throughout my time here, and I applaud them for that.
 
  For the things you guys may directly care about:
 
  * WOLips - still working on it
  * Wonder - still working on it
  * Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
  * WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity
 
  To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but you can 
  use my msch...@pobox.com email address.
 
 
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Re: Finding why two UPDATES are send

2010-04-22 Thread Chuck Hill

Wonder?

#
# ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate
#
## Enable delegate to emit SQL debugging info. The Logger used is
## log4j.category.er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.sqlLogging
# er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.enabled=false

## How long a statement must run to cause a log message. Messages with  
longer than

## error also emit a stack-trace
# er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.trace.milliSeconds.debug=0
# er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.trace.milliSeconds.info=100
# er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.trace.milliSeconds.warn=1000
# er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.trace.milliSeconds.error=5000

## MaxLength of the message
# er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.trace.maxLength = 3000

## What entities to watch
# er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.trace.entityMatchPattern = .*

Setting
er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.enabled=true
er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.trace.milliSeconds.info=1
er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.trace.entityMatchPattern = .*

Should give you a stack trace of where the second update originates.

Based on the delay, I'd guess a refresh of some sort from the  
browser.  Check your Ajax usage.  Also override dispatchRequest() in  
Application and log out the request.uri() so that you can see the  
traffic coming in.



Chuck



On Apr 22, 2010, at 8:54 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:

I have a strange problem, but I don't know how to debug it. We have  
a store where we contact our billing system (based on SQL Server  
2005...) to create a invoice and tell them order that's complete.  
Problem is, two UPDATE calls are sent to SQL Server, and the second  
one creates problems. The two UPDATE calls are send in a 700ms to  
1200ms interval, and no other SQL calls are done.


So the first UPDATE is sent when I do :

 commande.setCommandeComplet(Boolean.TRUE);
 ec().saveChanges();

That should do only one UPDATE call, and I enabled log4j debugging  
in setCommandeComplet to see if something else was updating the  
attribute, and it's updated only one time, so I really don't know  
why a second UPDATE call is done 700-1200ms later.


What's the best way to debug this?


Pascal Robert
prob...@macti.ca

AIM: MacTICanada
Twitter : MacTICanada
LinkedIn : http://www.linkedin.com/in/macti
WO Community profile : http://wocommunity.org/page/member?name=probert

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Re: Submit form and pop up a AjaxModalDialog confirming submission

2010-04-22 Thread Farrukh Ijaz
Thanks Ben,

It depends what is convenient to for one. Chuck's solution is obviously better 
and he knows the benefits of that approach which I guess would take months for 
me to understand as I'm new to WebObjects and Wonder. However in my approach 
the purchase action doesn't get tied with addToCartModalDialog and I still 
have flexibility to set my own customized script function to run on onComplete 
event.

Farrukh

On 2010-04-22, at 7:58 PM, Benjamin Chew wrote:

 Thanks Chuck and Farrukh! I ended up going with Chuck's solution in the end 
 as it was a little cleaner to do open the ModalDialog programmatically. 
 
 Ben
 
 On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Farrukh Ijaz 
 farrukh.i...@fuegodigitalmedia.com wrote:
 Try this, I use AjaxSubmitButton instead of AjaxModalDialogOpener using 
 javascript function. If your component has an AjaxModalDialog component with 
 some id sampleDialog, you'll have a javascript function at runtime as 
 openAMD_SampleDialog() to open the dialog.
 
 wo:form name=PurchaseForm multipleSubmit = $true
   wo:FocusTextField id = purchasePart size = 20 value = 
 $purchasePartNumber focus = true /
   wo:textfield id = purchaseQty size = 20 value = $purchaseQty 
 numberformat = 0 /
   wo:AjaxSubmitButton value = Purchase action = $purchase formName = 
 EditForm onComplete = openAMD_AddToCartModalDialog()/
 /wo:form
 
 
 Farrukh
 
 On 2010-04-21, at 8:56 PM, Benjamin Chew wrote:
 
 How do you tie a form submission to an AjaxModalDialog?
 
 I'm trying to submit a form, process the values with the method purchase 
 and pop up the result (added to cart or error). Right now I have this and it 
 doesn't work: 
 
 wo:form
   wo:FocusTextField id = purchasePart size = 20 value = 
 $purchasePartNumber focus = true /
   wo:textfield id = purchaseQty size = 20 value = $purchaseQty 
 numberformat = 0 /
   wo:AjaxModalDialogOpener dialogId = 
 addToCartModalDialogwo:submitButton action = 
 $purchasePurchase/wo:submitButton/wo:AjaxModalDialogOpener
 /wo:form
 
 Thanks,
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Javascript is not called by AjaxSubmitButton

2010-04-22 Thread Kalpana Vaka
Hi All,

I have javascript file validation.js with all the client side validations
for text, numbers, dates etc.,.

When I use WOJavascript with normal submit button, the validations are being
raised.

But, when I use AjaxSubmitButton instead of normal submit button, the
validations from the js file are being called.

Can anyone help me with this?

Thanks in advance,
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Re: Finding why two UPDATES are send

2010-04-22 Thread Pascal Robert


Le 10-04-22 à 13:17, Chuck Hill a écrit :


Wonder?

#
# ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate
#
## Enable delegate to emit SQL debugging info. The Logger used is
## log4j.category.er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.sqlLogging
# er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.enabled=false

## How long a statement must run to cause a log message. Messages  
with longer than

## error also emit a stack-trace
# er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.trace.milliSeconds.debug=0
# er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.trace.milliSeconds.info=100
# er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.trace.milliSeconds.warn=1000
#  
er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.trace.milliSeconds.error=5000


## MaxLength of the message
# er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.trace.maxLength = 3000

## What entities to watch
# er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.trace.entityMatchPattern  
= .*


Setting
er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.enabled=true
er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.trace.milliSeconds.info=1
er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.trace.entityMatchPattern = .*

Should give you a stack trace of where the second update originates.

Based on the delay, I'd guess a refresh of some sort from the  
browser.  Check your Ajax usage.  Also override dispatchRequest() in  
Application and log out the request.uri() so that you can see the  
traffic coming in.


Ah yes, the SQL Server calls does happen in a WOLongResponsePage. So I  
will check that out.




Chuck



On Apr 22, 2010, at 8:54 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:

I have a strange problem, but I don't know how to debug it. We have  
a store where we contact our billing system (based on SQL Server  
2005...) to create a invoice and tell them order that's complete.  
Problem is, two UPDATE calls are sent to SQL Server, and the second  
one creates problems. The two UPDATE calls are send in a 700ms to  
1200ms interval, and no other SQL calls are done.


So the first UPDATE is sent when I do :

commande.setCommandeComplet(Boolean.TRUE);
ec().saveChanges();

That should do only one UPDATE call, and I enabled log4j debugging  
in setCommandeComplet to see if something else was updating the  
attribute, and it's updated only one time, so I really don't know  
why a second UPDATE call is done 700-1200ms later.


What's the best way to debug this?


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Re: announcement

2010-04-22 Thread Chuck Hill

Hi Lachlan,

On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote:

In other news, while announcements are in order: I started a new job  
a couple of weeks ago where spring+hibernate is in play. So my  
contributions will mostly likely slow down somewhat, not that they  
weren't slow already ;) Oh, and my wife and I had a little baby boy  
4 weeks ago. Lots of fun. A little bundle of joy!



Congratulations on your new son!  Remember: in some far off time from  
now, you WILL get a good night's sleep again.  :-P


As for the Spring + Hibernate, I am sure that many people here would  
be interested in hearing of your experiences and opinions on how it  
compares to WO development, the better and the worse.



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Re: announcement

2010-04-22 Thread Pascal Robert


Le 10-04-22 à 13:57, Chuck Hill a écrit :


Hi Lachlan,

On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote:

In other news, while announcements are in order: I started a new  
job a couple of weeks ago where spring+hibernate is in play. So my  
contributions will mostly likely slow down somewhat, not that they  
weren't slow already ;) Oh, and my wife and I had a little baby boy  
4 weeks ago. Lots of fun. A little bundle of joy!



Congratulations on your new son!  Remember: in some far off time  
from now, you WILL get a good night's sleep again.  :-P


As for the Spring + Hibernate, I am sure that many people here would  
be interested in hearing of your experiences and opinions on how it  
compares to WO development, the better and the worse.


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Re: announcement

2010-04-22 Thread David Holt

On 2010-04-22, at 10:57 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:

 Hi Lachlan,
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote:
 
 In other news, while announcements are in order: I started a new job a 
 couple of weeks ago where spring+hibernate is in play. So my contributions 
 will mostly likely slow down somewhat, not that they weren't slow already ;) 
 Oh, and my wife and I had a little baby boy 4 weeks ago. Lots of fun. A 
 little bundle of joy!
 
 
 Congratulations on your new son!  Remember: in some far off time from now, 
 you WILL get a good night's sleep again.  :-P

Thanks for giving us new parents some... hope :-)

Congrats Lachlan, it's a great stage of life.

David

 
 As for the Spring + Hibernate, I am sure that many people here would be 
 interested in hearing of your experiences and opinions on how it compares to 
 WO development, the better and the worse.
 
 
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Re: announcement

2010-04-22 Thread Chuck Hill


On Apr 22, 2010, at 11:28 AM, David Holt wrote:



On 2010-04-22, at 10:57 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:


Hi Lachlan,

On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote:

In other news, while announcements are in order: I started a new  
job a couple of weeks ago where spring+hibernate is in play. So my  
contributions will mostly likely slow down somewhat, not that they  
weren't slow already ;) Oh, and my wife and I had a little baby  
boy 4 weeks ago. Lots of fun. A little bundle of joy!



Congratulations on your new son!  Remember: in some far off time  
from now, you WILL get a good night's sleep again.  :-P


Thanks for giving us new parents some... hope :-)


Well, I am child-free, so this is only an observation of other  
parents.  It could be that you just eventually get used to sleep  
deprivation.  :-)





Congrats Lachlan, it's a great stage of life.

David



As for the Spring + Hibernate, I am sure that many people here  
would be interested in hearing of your experiences and opinions on  
how it compares to WO development, the better and the worse.



Chuck


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Re: Finding why two UPDATES are send

2010-04-22 Thread Pascal Robert


Le 10-04-22 à 13:56, Pascal Robert a écrit :



Le 10-04-22 à 13:17, Chuck Hill a écrit :


Wonder?

#
# ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate
#
## Enable delegate to emit SQL debugging info. The Logger used is
## log4j.category.er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.sqlLogging
# er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.enabled=false

## How long a statement must run to cause a log message. Messages  
with longer than

## error also emit a stack-trace
# er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.trace.milliSeconds.debug=0
# er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.trace.milliSeconds.info=100
#  
er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.trace.milliSeconds.warn=1000
#  
er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.trace.milliSeconds.error=5000


## MaxLength of the message
# er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.trace.maxLength = 3000

## What entities to watch
# er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.trace.entityMatchPattern  
= .*


Setting
er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.enabled=true
er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.trace.milliSeconds.info=1
er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.trace.entityMatchPattern = .*

Should give you a stack trace of where the second update originates.

Based on the delay, I'd guess a refresh of some sort from the  
browser.  Check your Ajax usage.  Also override dispatchRequest()  
in Application and log out the request.uri() so that you can see  
the traffic coming in.


Ah yes, the SQL Server calls does happen in a WOLongResponsePage. So  
I will check that out.


The two updates runs in the same request (eg, the URI didn't  
change) :-/ In fact, they are running in the same transaction.




Chuck



On Apr 22, 2010, at 8:54 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:

I have a strange problem, but I don't know how to debug it. We  
have a store where we contact our billing system (based on SQL  
Server 2005...) to create a invoice and tell them order that's  
complete. Problem is, two UPDATE calls are sent to SQL Server, and  
the second one creates problems. The two UPDATE calls are send in  
a 700ms to 1200ms interval, and no other SQL calls are done.


So the first UPDATE is sent when I do :

commande.setCommandeComplet(Boolean.TRUE);
ec().saveChanges();

That should do only one UPDATE call, and I enabled log4j debugging  
in setCommandeComplet to see if something else was updating the  
attribute, and it's updated only one time, so I really don't know  
why a second UPDATE call is done 700-1200ms later.


What's the best way to debug this?


Pascal Robert
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Re: announcement

2010-04-22 Thread Guido Neitzer
Yes, we are.

Guido

On 22. Apr, 2010, at 07:45 , Alan Ward wrote:

 
 We're hiring.  
 Alan
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
 
 If you know WO and want to work at Apple, just ask them.  I know they don't 
 have enough skilled WO developers.  I am not sure they could ever have 
 enough.
 
 
 Chuck
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 5:39 PM, Lon Varscsak wrote:
 
 Maybe Apple should just hire us all and be done with it. :P  We're a drop 
 in the bucket compared to all of their employees world wide.
 
 On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net 
 wrote:
 Sure is getting lonely here, outside of The Mother Ship.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNQRfBAzSzo
 
 Well, that is the end of an era.  I am sure that Bill and everyone at 
 mDimension will sorely miss you.  My thanks to Bill  Co for all the past 
 and future support of WebObjects (and Mike).  It has been really great and 
 it is good to know that they will remain active in WebObjects (albeit at 
 perhaps a slightly less frantic pace).
 
 And congratulations to Apple for sucking Mike The Unstoppable Code 
 Machine Schrag into it's black hole vortex of WO developers.  Did I 
 mention it is getting lonely out here?  I am sure good things will come of 
 this.  I hope we still see you on the lists now and then.
 
 Looking forward to seeing you again at WWDC / WOWODC.
 
 
 Chuck
 
 
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:
 
 Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my last 
 day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple. Not to 
 worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be part of my 
 responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think iTMS has done a 
 really good job demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, with 
 Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work recently 
 with ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the value of the 
 WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look forward to a lot of exciting 
 things in the future.
 
 As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have been a 
 great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years before I came 
 on, Bill would tell me about this framework called WebObjects and how great 
 it was. When I started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a bunch of 
 books, WWDC videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on The Path. mDT 
 has also consistently made a substantial investment in the community, 
 supporting every bit of development that I've done in WOLips, Wonder, 
 WOWODC, and the build servers throughout my time here, and I applaud them 
 for that.
 
 For the things you guys may directly care about:
 
 * WOLips - still working on it
 * Wonder - still working on it
 * Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
 * WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity
 
 To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but you can use 
 my msch...@pobox.com email address.
 
 
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Re: Finding why two UPDATES are send

2010-04-22 Thread Mark Ritchie
Hey Pascal!

On 22/Apr/2010, at 8:54 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:
 What's the best way to debug this?

I would never claim this is best, however this is how I do it: ;-)
(I could have sworn that I've posted this before however google couldn't find 
it so here it is again!)


/path/to/app/MyApp.woa/MyApp -EOAdaptorDebugEnabled YES -NSJavaDebugging YES
...
*** set a breakpoint (see alternate version below but we warned it's version 
specific.)
 stop in com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.JDBCChannel.evaluateExpression

*** to launch the app
 run
...
Breakpoint hit: thread=WorkerThread0, 
com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.JDBCChannel.evaluateExpression(), line=296 bci=0

*** Type the 'next' command to get the log message of what SQL expression is 
being executed.
 next
[2010-4-22 12:19:22 PDT] WorkerThread0  === Begin Internal Transaction
 [2010-4-22 12:19:22 PDT] WorkerThread0  evaluateExpression: 
 com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.MySQLPlugIn$MySQLExpression: SELECT t0.BIRTHDAY, 
 t0.FIRST_NAME, t0.ID, t0.LAST_NAME FROM PERSON t0 withBindings: 

Step completed: thread=WorkerThread0, 
com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.JDBCChannel.evaluateExpression(), line=297 bci=7

*** to see the backtrace
 where
  [1] com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.JDBCChannel.evaluateExpression 
(JDBCChannel.java:297)
  [2] com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.JDBCChannel.selectAttributes 
(JDBCChannel.java:220)
...
  [10] com.webobjects.eoaccess.EOUtilities.objectsForEntityNamed 
(EOUtilities.java:79)
  [11] your.app.Session.init (Session.java:14)
...
  [27] java.lang.Thread.run (Thread.java:637)

From the backtrace, I see that Session.java, line 14 invoked 
EOUtilities.objectsForEntityNamed(...).
Your results will very unless you copied my test project! ;-)

*** to have your app continue on, type:
 cont
...

If you get tired of typing 'next' each time breakpoint is hit, you can instead 
use:
 stop at com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.JDBCChannel:297

Note: That command was gleaned from looking at the Step completed message 
from jdb (shown above) and is highly dependent on the version of webobjects 
that you are using.  Please adjust accordingly!

This method has the advantage of working with both Wonder and non-Wonder 
projects.
No changes to configuration or properties files required.
Works on deployment machines without development tools.

Good Luck!
M.

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Re: announcement

2010-04-22 Thread Ramsey Gurley

Hey Mike,

Javadocs seem to be down at mDimension

http://webobjects.mdimension.com/hudson/job/Wonder53/javadoc/

...

So who do we nag when you leave mDT? Has a successor been appointed?

Ramsey

On Apr 22, 2010, at 11:45 AM, David Avendasora wrote:

:-) I think we're all hoping/expecting that that's the case, but  
there's been others who start working at Apple and then suddenly  
stop posting, or only post rarely.


With someone as high profile and insanely helpful as Mike I think  
many of us are just a little nervous about it.


Dave

On Apr 22, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Alan Ward wrote:



Mike's not going to disappear you know.

On Apr 22, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:

1+, Apple should only hire anonymous WO devs, not the ones who are  
actually helping the community :-)



No! don't take everyone from the list ;-)

d

On 2010-04-22, at 7:45 AM, Alan Ward wrote:



We're hiring.
Alan

On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:

If you know WO and want to work at Apple, just ask them.  I  
know they don't have enough skilled WO developers.  I am not  
sure they could ever have enough.



Chuck

On Apr 21, 2010, at 5:39 PM, Lon Varscsak wrote:

Maybe Apple should just hire us all and be done with it. :P   
We're a drop in the bucket compared to all of their employees  
world wide.


On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net 
 wrote:

Sure is getting lonely here, outside of The Mother Ship.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNQRfBAzSzo

Well, that is the end of an era.  I am sure that Bill and  
everyone at mDimension will sorely miss you.  My thanks to  
Bill  Co for all the past and future support of WebObjects  
(and Mike).  It has been really great and it is good to know  
that they will remain active in WebObjects (albeit at perhaps  
a slightly less frantic pace).


And congratulations to Apple for sucking Mike The Unstoppable  
Code Machine Schrag into it's black hole vortex of WO  
developers.  Did I mention it is getting lonely out here?  I  
am sure good things will come of this.  I hope we still see  
you on the lists now and then.


Looking forward to seeing you again at WWDC / WOWODC.


Chuck



On Apr 21, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:

Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30  
will be my last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted  
a position at Apple. Not to worry, though -- supporting WOLips  
and Wonder will be part of my responsibilities, so I'm far  
from disappearing. I think iTMS has done a really good job  
demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, with  
Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of  
work recently with ERModernLook. The folks over there  
appreciate the value of the WebObjects and Wonder communities,  
and I look forward to a lot of exciting things in the future.


As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms.  
They have been a great company to work for over the past 5  
years. For years before I came on, Bill would tell me about  
this framework called WebObjects and how great it was. When I  
started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a bunch of books,  
WWDC videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on The  
Path. mDT has also consistently made a substantial investment  
in the community, supporting every bit of development that  
I've done in WOLips, Wonder, WOWODC, and the build servers  
throughout my time here, and I applaud them for that.


For the things you guys may directly care about:

* WOLips - still working on it
* Wonder - still working on it
* Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
* WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple  
capacity


To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but  
you can use my msch...@pobox.com email address.



ms
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Re: Finding why two UPDATES are send

2010-04-22 Thread Pascal Robert


Setting
er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.enabled=true
er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.trace.milliSeconds.info=1
er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.trace.entityMatchPattern  
= .*


Should give you a stack trace of where the second update originates.

Based on the delay, I'd guess a refresh of some sort from the  
browser.  Check your Ajax usage.  Also override dispatchRequest()  
in Application and log out the request.uri() so that you can see  
the traffic coming in.


Ah yes, the SQL Server calls does happen in a WOLongResponsePage.  
So I will check that out.


The two updates runs in the same request (eg, the URI didn't  
change) :-/ In fact, they are running in the same transaction.


So, it's part of the same transaction, and it's timed only one time :

2010-04-22 15:36:37,811 [ERXNSLogLog4jBridge.java:46] DEBUG  -  ===  
Begin Internal Transaction
2010-04-22 15:36:37,812 [ERXNSLogLog4jBridge.java:46] DEBUG  -   
evaluateExpression:  
com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.MicrosoftSQLServerPlugIn 
$MicrosoftSQLServerExpression: UPDATE dbo.CommandesEcom SET  
CommandeComplet = ? WHERE NoCommandeOracle = ? withBindings:  
1:true(commandeComplet), 2:6091(noCommandeOracle)
2010-04-22 15:36:38,319 [ERXNSLogLog4jBridge.java:46] DEBUG  -   
evaluateExpression:  
com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.MicrosoftSQLServerPlugIn 
$MicrosoftSQLServerExpression: UPDATE dbo.CommandesEcom SET  
CommandeComplet = ? WHERE NoCommandeOracle = ? withBindings:  
1:true(commandeComplet), 2:6091(noCommandeOracle)
2010-04-22 15:36:38,324 [ERXEOAccessUtilities.java:1213] INFO   -  
CommandesEcom@8796244 expression took 5 ms: UPDATE dbo.CommandesEcom  
SET CommandeComplet = ? WHERE NoCommandeOracle = ? withBindings:  
1:NULL[commandeComplet], 2:6091[noCommandeOracle]
2010-04-22 15:36:38,335 [ERXNSLogLog4jBridge.java:46] DEBUG  -  ===  
Commit Internal Transaction



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wonder downloads down???

2010-04-22 Thread Theodore Petrosky
I was trying to download from:

http://webobjects.mdimension.com/wonder

I get a directory, but cannot download is there a problem


  
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Re: announcement

2010-04-22 Thread Mike Schrag
Where's David den Boer when you need him? I'm guessing he would say the same :) 
Now we have a proper episode of the dating game!

ms

On Apr 22, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Guido Neitzer wrote:

 Yes, we are.
 
 Guido
 
 On 22. Apr, 2010, at 07:45 , Alan Ward wrote:
 
 
 We're hiring.  
 Alan
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
 
 If you know WO and want to work at Apple, just ask them.  I know they don't 
 have enough skilled WO developers.  I am not sure they could ever have 
 enough.
 
 
 Chuck
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 5:39 PM, Lon Varscsak wrote:
 
 Maybe Apple should just hire us all and be done with it. :P  We're a drop 
 in the bucket compared to all of their employees world wide.
 
 On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net 
 wrote:
 Sure is getting lonely here, outside of The Mother Ship.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNQRfBAzSzo
 
 Well, that is the end of an era.  I am sure that Bill and everyone at 
 mDimension will sorely miss you.  My thanks to Bill  Co for all the past 
 and future support of WebObjects (and Mike).  It has been really great and 
 it is good to know that they will remain active in WebObjects (albeit at 
 perhaps a slightly less frantic pace).
 
 And congratulations to Apple for sucking Mike The Unstoppable Code 
 Machine Schrag into it's black hole vortex of WO developers.  Did I 
 mention it is getting lonely out here?  I am sure good things will come of 
 this.  I hope we still see you on the lists now and then.
 
 Looking forward to seeing you again at WWDC / WOWODC.
 
 
 Chuck
 
 
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:
 
 Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my last 
 day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple. Not to 
 worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be part of my 
 responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think iTMS has done a 
 really good job demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, with 
 Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work recently 
 with ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the value of the 
 WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look forward to a lot of exciting 
 things in the future.
 
 As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have been 
 a great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years before I came 
 on, Bill would tell me about this framework called WebObjects and how 
 great it was. When I started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a bunch 
 of books, WWDC videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on The Path. 
 mDT has also consistently made a substantial investment in the community, 
 supporting every bit of development that I've done in WOLips, Wonder, 
 WOWODC, and the build servers throughout my time here, and I applaud them 
 for that.
 
 For the things you guys may directly care about:
 
 * WOLips - still working on it
 * Wonder - still working on it
 * Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
 * WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity
 
 To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but you can use 
 my msch...@pobox.com email address.
 
 
 ms
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Re: announcement

2010-04-22 Thread Mike Schrag
@see hudson is in a funky state at the moment ... excuse our mess ... where's 
my animated construction worker gif?

i'm moving the build server up from an internal box to an external box, so it's 
rebuilding everything now.

ms

On Apr 22, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Ramsey Gurley wrote:

 Hey Mike,
 
 Javadocs seem to be down at mDimension
 
 http://webobjects.mdimension.com/hudson/job/Wonder53/javadoc/
 
 ...
 
 So who do we nag when you leave mDT? Has a successor been appointed?
 
 Ramsey
 
 On Apr 22, 2010, at 11:45 AM, David Avendasora wrote:
 
 :-) I think we're all hoping/expecting that that's the case, but there's 
 been others who start working at Apple and then suddenly stop posting, or 
 only post rarely.
 
 With someone as high profile and insanely helpful as Mike I think many of us 
 are just a little nervous about it.
 
 Dave
 
 On Apr 22, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Alan Ward wrote:
 
 
 Mike's not going to disappear you know.
 
 On Apr 22, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:
 
 1+, Apple should only hire anonymous WO devs, not the ones who are 
 actually helping the community :-)
 
 No! don't take everyone from the list ;-)
 
 d
 
 On 2010-04-22, at 7:45 AM, Alan Ward wrote:
 
 
 We're hiring.
 Alan
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
 
 If you know WO and want to work at Apple, just ask them.  I know they 
 don't have enough skilled WO developers.  I am not sure they could ever 
 have enough.
 
 
 Chuck
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 5:39 PM, Lon Varscsak wrote:
 
 Maybe Apple should just hire us all and be done with it. :P  We're a 
 drop in the bucket compared to all of their employees world wide.
 
 On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net 
 wrote:
 Sure is getting lonely here, outside of The Mother Ship.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNQRfBAzSzo
 
 Well, that is the end of an era.  I am sure that Bill and everyone at 
 mDimension will sorely miss you.  My thanks to Bill  Co for all the 
 past and future support of WebObjects (and Mike).  It has been really 
 great and it is good to know that they will remain active in 
 WebObjects (albeit at perhaps a slightly less frantic pace).
 
 And congratulations to Apple for sucking Mike The Unstoppable Code 
 Machine Schrag into it's black hole vortex of WO developers.  Did I 
 mention it is getting lonely out here?  I am sure good things will 
 come of this.  I hope we still see you on the lists now and then.
 
 Looking forward to seeing you again at WWDC / WOWODC.
 
 
 Chuck
 
 
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:
 
 Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my 
 last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at 
 Apple. Not to worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be 
 part of my responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think 
 iTMS has done a really good job demonstrating that they're committed 
 to contributing, with Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a 
 substantial amount of work recently with ERModernLook. The folks over 
 there appreciate the value of the WebObjects and Wonder communities, 
 and I look forward to a lot of exciting things in the future.
 
 As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have 
 been a great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years 
 before I came on, Bill would tell me about this framework called 
 WebObjects and how great it was. When I started at mDT, he got me 
 going with WO with a bunch of books, WWDC videos, and helpful 
 guidance, and they set me on The Path. mDT has also consistently made 
 a substantial investment in the community, supporting every bit of 
 development that I've done in WOLips, Wonder, WOWODC, and the build 
 servers throughout my time here, and I applaud them for that.
 
 For the things you guys may directly care about:
 
 * WOLips - still working on it
 * Wonder - still working on it
 * Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
 * WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity
 
 To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but you can 
 use my msch...@pobox.com email address.
 
 
 ms
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Re: Finding why two UPDATES are send

2010-04-22 Thread Chuck Hill


On Apr 22, 2010, at 12:41 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:



Setting
er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.enabled=true
er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.trace.milliSeconds.info=1
er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.trace.entityMatchPattern  
= .*


Should give you a stack trace of where the second update  
originates.


Based on the delay, I'd guess a refresh of some sort from the  
browser.  Check your Ajax usage.  Also override dispatchRequest()  
in Application and log out the request.uri() so that you can see  
the traffic coming in.


Ah yes, the SQL Server calls does happen in a WOLongResponsePage.  
So I will check that out.


The two updates runs in the same request (eg, the URI didn't  
change) :-/ In fact, they are running in the same transaction.


So, it's part of the same transaction, and it's timed only one time :

2010-04-22 15:36:37,811 [ERXNSLogLog4jBridge.java:46] DEBUG  -  ===  
Begin Internal Transaction
2010-04-22 15:36:37,812 [ERXNSLogLog4jBridge.java:46] DEBUG  -   
evaluateExpression:  
com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.MicrosoftSQLServerPlugIn 
$MicrosoftSQLServerExpression: UPDATE dbo.CommandesEcom SET  
CommandeComplet = ? WHERE NoCommandeOracle = ? withBindings:  
1:true(commandeComplet), 2:6091(noCommandeOracle)


The gap between log messages here is 0.5 seconds and note the missing  
log message
2010-04-22 15:36:38,324 [ERXEOAccessUtilities.java:1213] INFO   -  
CommandesEcom@8796244 expression took X ms: 

Or did you delete that by accident?

2010-04-22 15:36:38,319 [ERXNSLogLog4jBridge.java:46] DEBUG  -   
evaluateExpression:  
com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.MicrosoftSQLServerPlugIn 
$MicrosoftSQLServerExpression: UPDATE dbo.CommandesEcom SET  
CommandeComplet = ? WHERE NoCommandeOracle = ? withBindings:  
1:true(commandeComplet), 2:6091(noCommandeOracle)
2010-04-22 15:36:38,324 [ERXEOAccessUtilities.java:1213] INFO   -  
CommandesEcom@8796244 expression took 5 ms: UPDATE  
dbo.CommandesEcom SET CommandeComplet = ? WHERE NoCommandeOracle = ?  
withBindings: 1:NULL[commandeComplet], 2:6091[noCommandeOracle]


That one was 0.005 ms not 0.5 like the first.  Are you hitting a  
timeout of some sort?  Database returning an error and EOF retrying?   
Is inheritance involved?


2010-04-22 15:36:38,335 [ERXNSLogLog4jBridge.java:46] DEBUG  -  ===  
Commit Internal Transaction





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Re: announcement

2010-04-22 Thread Chuck Hill


On Apr 22, 2010, at 12:44 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:

Where's David den Boer when you need him? I'm guessing he would say  
the same :)


I am surprised that he was not first!  He is usually right on this.



Now we have a proper episode of the dating game!

ms

On Apr 22, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Guido Neitzer wrote:


Yes, we are.

Guido

On 22. Apr, 2010, at 07:45 , Alan Ward wrote:



We're hiring.
Alan

On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:

If you know WO and want to work at Apple, just ask them.  I know  
they don't have enough skilled WO developers.  I am not sure they  
could ever have enough.



Chuck

On Apr 21, 2010, at 5:39 PM, Lon Varscsak wrote:

Maybe Apple should just hire us all and be done with it. :P   
We're a drop in the bucket compared to all of their employees  
world wide.


On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net 
 wrote:

Sure is getting lonely here, outside of The Mother Ship.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNQRfBAzSzo

Well, that is the end of an era.  I am sure that Bill and  
everyone at mDimension will sorely miss you.  My thanks to Bill  
 Co for all the past and future support of WebObjects (and  
Mike).  It has been really great and it is good to know that  
they will remain active in WebObjects (albeit at perhaps a  
slightly less frantic pace).


And congratulations to Apple for sucking Mike The Unstoppable  
Code Machine Schrag into it's black hole vortex of WO  
developers.  Did I mention it is getting lonely out here?  I am  
sure good things will come of this.  I hope we still see you on  
the lists now and then.


Looking forward to seeing you again at WWDC / WOWODC.


Chuck



On Apr 21, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:

Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will  
be my last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a  
position at Apple. Not to worry, though -- supporting WOLips and  
Wonder will be part of my responsibilities, so I'm far from  
disappearing. I think iTMS has done a really good job  
demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, with  
Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work  
recently with ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the  
value of the WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look  
forward to a lot of exciting things in the future.


As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They  
have been a great company to work for over the past 5 years. For  
years before I came on, Bill would tell me about this framework  
called WebObjects and how great it was. When I started at mDT,  
he got me going with WO with a bunch of books, WWDC videos, and  
helpful guidance, and they set me on The Path. mDT has also  
consistently made a substantial investment in the community,  
supporting every bit of development that I've done in WOLips,  
Wonder, WOWODC, and the build servers throughout my time here,  
and I applaud them for that.


For the things you guys may directly care about:

* WOLips - still working on it
* Wonder - still working on it
* Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
* WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple  
capacity


To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but  
you can use my msch...@pobox.com email address.



ms
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Re: announcement

2010-04-22 Thread Clark Mueller
He's hiring!

On Apr 22, 2010, at 12:44 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:

 Where's David den Boer when you need him? I'm guessing he would say the same 
 :) Now we have a proper episode of the dating game!
 
 ms
 
 On Apr 22, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Guido Neitzer wrote:
 
 Yes, we are.
 
 Guido
 
 On 22. Apr, 2010, at 07:45 , Alan Ward wrote:
 
 
 We're hiring.  
 Alan
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
 
 If you know WO and want to work at Apple, just ask them.  I know they 
 don't have enough skilled WO developers.  I am not sure they could ever 
 have enough.
 
 
 Chuck
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 5:39 PM, Lon Varscsak wrote:
 
 Maybe Apple should just hire us all and be done with it. :P  We're a drop 
 in the bucket compared to all of their employees world wide.
 
 On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net 
 wrote:
 Sure is getting lonely here, outside of The Mother Ship.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNQRfBAzSzo
 
 Well, that is the end of an era.  I am sure that Bill and everyone at 
 mDimension will sorely miss you.  My thanks to Bill  Co for all the past 
 and future support of WebObjects (and Mike).  It has been really great 
 and it is good to know that they will remain active in WebObjects (albeit 
 at perhaps a slightly less frantic pace).
 
 And congratulations to Apple for sucking Mike The Unstoppable Code 
 Machine Schrag into it's black hole vortex of WO developers.  Did I 
 mention it is getting lonely out here?  I am sure good things will come 
 of this.  I hope we still see you on the lists now and then.
 
 Looking forward to seeing you again at WWDC / WOWODC.
 
 
 Chuck
 
 
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:
 
 Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my 
 last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple. 
 Not to worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be part of my 
 responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think iTMS has done a 
 really good job demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, 
 with Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work 
 recently with ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the value of 
 the WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look forward to a lot of 
 exciting things in the future.
 
 As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have been 
 a great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years before I 
 came on, Bill would tell me about this framework called WebObjects and 
 how great it was. When I started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a 
 bunch of books, WWDC videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on The 
 Path. mDT has also consistently made a substantial investment in the 
 community, supporting every bit of development that I've done in WOLips, 
 Wonder, WOWODC, and the build servers throughout my time here, and I 
 applaud them for that.
 
 For the things you guys may directly care about:
 
 * WOLips - still working on it
 * Wonder - still working on it
 * Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
 * WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity
 
 To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but you can use 
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Re: wonder downloads down???

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Re: Finding why two UPDATES are send

2010-04-22 Thread Pascal Robert


Le 10-04-22 à 15:50, Chuck Hill a écrit :



On Apr 22, 2010, at 12:41 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:



Setting
er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.enabled=true
er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.trace.milliSeconds.info=1
er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.trace.entityMatchPattern  
= .*


Should give you a stack trace of where the second update  
originates.


Based on the delay, I'd guess a refresh of some sort from the  
browser.  Check your Ajax usage.  Also override  
dispatchRequest() in Application and log out the request.uri()  
so that you can see the traffic coming in.


Ah yes, the SQL Server calls does happen in a WOLongResponsePage.  
So I will check that out.


The two updates runs in the same request (eg, the URI didn't  
change) :-/ In fact, they are running in the same transaction.


So, it's part of the same transaction, and it's timed only one time :

2010-04-22 15:36:37,811 [ERXNSLogLog4jBridge.java:46] DEBUG  -  ===  
Begin Internal Transaction
2010-04-22 15:36:37,812 [ERXNSLogLog4jBridge.java:46] DEBUG  -   
evaluateExpression:  
com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.MicrosoftSQLServerPlugIn 
$MicrosoftSQLServerExpression: UPDATE dbo.CommandesEcom SET  
CommandeComplet = ? WHERE NoCommandeOracle = ? withBindings:  
1:true(commandeComplet), 2:6091(noCommandeOracle)


The gap between log messages here is 0.5 seconds and note the  
missing log message
2010-04-22 15:36:38,324 [ERXEOAccessUtilities.java:1213] INFO   -  
CommandesEcom@8796244 expression took X ms: 

Or did you delete that by accident?


Didn't delete anything.

2010-04-22 15:36:38,319 [ERXNSLogLog4jBridge.java:46] DEBUG  -   
evaluateExpression:  
com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.MicrosoftSQLServerPlugIn 
$MicrosoftSQLServerExpression: UPDATE dbo.CommandesEcom SET  
CommandeComplet = ? WHERE NoCommandeOracle = ? withBindings:  
1:true(commandeComplet), 2:6091(noCommandeOracle)
2010-04-22 15:36:38,324 [ERXEOAccessUtilities.java:1213] INFO   -  
CommandesEcom@8796244 expression took 5 ms: UPDATE  
dbo.CommandesEcom SET CommandeComplet = ? WHERE NoCommandeOracle  
= ? withBindings: 1:NULL[commandeComplet], 2:6091[noCommandeOracle]


That one was 0.005 ms not 0.5 like the first.  Are you hitting a  
timeout of some sort?  Database returning an error and EOF  
retrying?  Is inheritance involved?


No inheritance. I'm crazy, but that much :-) I will try Mark's  
debugging trick, and check with the accounting software vendor to see  
if they can trace something.


2010-04-22 15:36:38,335 [ERXNSLogLog4jBridge.java:46] DEBUG  -  ===  
Commit Internal Transaction





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Re: wonder downloads down???

2010-04-22 Thread Mike Schrag
these builds are taking a little longer than i thought -- i tried to get too 
aggressive with concurrent executors and burned through the memory allocation 
for this VM, so it started swapping hard. i dropped back to one executor and 
requeued wonder 5.4 to run in a little bit.

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Re: Finding why two UPDATES are send

2010-04-22 Thread Chuck Hill

Now that I read the comments in Properties...

Try with
er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.trace.milliSeconds.error=1

That should get you stack traces (assuming the comments are correct).   
That _may_ shed some light on things.



Chuck

On Apr 22, 2010, at 12:53 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:



Le 10-04-22 à 15:50, Chuck Hill a écrit :



On Apr 22, 2010, at 12:41 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:



Setting
er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.enabled=true
er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.trace.milliSeconds.info=1
er 
.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.trace.entityMatchPattern  
= .*


Should give you a stack trace of where the second update  
originates.


Based on the delay, I'd guess a refresh of some sort from the  
browser.  Check your Ajax usage.  Also override  
dispatchRequest() in Application and log out the request.uri()  
so that you can see the traffic coming in.


Ah yes, the SQL Server calls does happen in a  
WOLongResponsePage. So I will check that out.


The two updates runs in the same request (eg, the URI didn't  
change) :-/ In fact, they are running in the same transaction.


So, it's part of the same transaction, and it's timed only one  
time :


2010-04-22 15:36:37,811 [ERXNSLogLog4jBridge.java:46] DEBUG  -   
=== Begin Internal Transaction
2010-04-22 15:36:37,812 [ERXNSLogLog4jBridge.java:46] DEBUG  -   
evaluateExpression:  
com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.MicrosoftSQLServerPlugIn 
$MicrosoftSQLServerExpression: UPDATE dbo.CommandesEcom SET  
CommandeComplet = ? WHERE NoCommandeOracle = ? withBindings:  
1:true(commandeComplet), 2:6091(noCommandeOracle)


The gap between log messages here is 0.5 seconds and note the  
missing log message
2010-04-22 15:36:38,324 [ERXEOAccessUtilities.java:1213] INFO   -  
CommandesEcom@8796244 expression took X ms: 

Or did you delete that by accident?


Didn't delete anything.

2010-04-22 15:36:38,319 [ERXNSLogLog4jBridge.java:46] DEBUG  -   
evaluateExpression:  
com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.MicrosoftSQLServerPlugIn 
$MicrosoftSQLServerExpression: UPDATE dbo.CommandesEcom SET  
CommandeComplet = ? WHERE NoCommandeOracle = ? withBindings:  
1:true(commandeComplet), 2:6091(noCommandeOracle)
2010-04-22 15:36:38,324 [ERXEOAccessUtilities.java:1213] INFO   -  
CommandesEcom@8796244 expression took 5 ms: UPDATE  
dbo.CommandesEcom SET CommandeComplet = ? WHERE NoCommandeOracle  
= ? withBindings: 1:NULL[commandeComplet], 2:6091[noCommandeOracle]


That one was 0.005 ms not 0.5 like the first.  Are you hitting a  
timeout of some sort?  Database returning an error and EOF  
retrying?  Is inheritance involved?


No inheritance. I'm crazy, but that much :-) I will try Mark's  
debugging trick, and check with the accounting software vendor to  
see if they can trace something.


2010-04-22 15:36:38,335 [ERXNSLogLog4jBridge.java:46] DEBUG  -   
=== Commit Internal Transaction





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Re: Finding why two UPDATES are send

2010-04-22 Thread Pascal Robert


Le 10-04-22 à 16:02, Chuck Hill a écrit :


Now that I read the comments in Properties...

Try with
er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.trace.milliSeconds.error=1

That should get you stack traces (assuming the comments are  
correct).  That _may_ shed some light on things.


No luck, I have put a 100 ms limit, and it doesn't say that it's  
taking too long (but it's a damn cool feature!).




Chuck

On Apr 22, 2010, at 12:53 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:



Le 10-04-22 à 15:50, Chuck Hill a écrit :



On Apr 22, 2010, at 12:41 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:



Setting
er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.enabled=true
er 
.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.trace.milliSeconds.info=1
er 
.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.trace.entityMatchPattern  
= .*


Should give you a stack trace of where the second update  
originates.


Based on the delay, I'd guess a refresh of some sort from the  
browser.  Check your Ajax usage.  Also override  
dispatchRequest() in Application and log out the request.uri()  
so that you can see the traffic coming in.


Ah yes, the SQL Server calls does happen in a  
WOLongResponsePage. So I will check that out.


The two updates runs in the same request (eg, the URI didn't  
change) :-/ In fact, they are running in the same transaction.


So, it's part of the same transaction, and it's timed only one  
time :


2010-04-22 15:36:37,811 [ERXNSLogLog4jBridge.java:46] DEBUG  -   
=== Begin Internal Transaction
2010-04-22 15:36:37,812 [ERXNSLogLog4jBridge.java:46] DEBUG  -   
evaluateExpression:  
com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.MicrosoftSQLServerPlugIn 
$MicrosoftSQLServerExpression: UPDATE dbo.CommandesEcom SET  
CommandeComplet = ? WHERE NoCommandeOracle = ? withBindings:  
1:true(commandeComplet), 2:6091(noCommandeOracle)


The gap between log messages here is 0.5 seconds and note the  
missing log message
2010-04-22 15:36:38,324 [ERXEOAccessUtilities.java:1213] INFO   -  
CommandesEcom@8796244 expression took X ms: 

Or did you delete that by accident?


Didn't delete anything.

2010-04-22 15:36:38,319 [ERXNSLogLog4jBridge.java:46] DEBUG  -   
evaluateExpression:  
com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.MicrosoftSQLServerPlugIn 
$MicrosoftSQLServerExpression: UPDATE dbo.CommandesEcom SET  
CommandeComplet = ? WHERE NoCommandeOracle = ? withBindings:  
1:true(commandeComplet), 2:6091(noCommandeOracle)
2010-04-22 15:36:38,324 [ERXEOAccessUtilities.java:1213] INFO   -  
CommandesEcom@8796244 expression took 5 ms: UPDATE  
dbo.CommandesEcom SET CommandeComplet = ? WHERE NoCommandeOracle  
= ? withBindings: 1:NULL[commandeComplet], 2:6091[noCommandeOracle]


That one was 0.005 ms not 0.5 like the first.  Are you hitting a  
timeout of some sort?  Database returning an error and EOF  
retrying?  Is inheritance involved?


No inheritance. I'm crazy, but that much :-) I will try Mark's  
debugging trick, and check with the accounting software vendor to  
see if they can trace something.


2010-04-22 15:36:38,335 [ERXNSLogLog4jBridge.java:46] DEBUG  -   
=== Commit Internal Transaction





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Re: Javascript is not called by AjaxSubmitButton

2010-04-22 Thread Farrukh Ijaz
If you're validation script is running on form's onSubmit event. I suspect 
these scripts won't get fired with AjaxSubmitButton however you can fire them 
in onClickBefore event of AjaxSubmitButton and if the script returns true the 
data will be posted to the action E.g.

Case 1: Normal Submit Button

wo:form onSubmit=someValidations()
input type=text name=field1/
wo:submit action=$postData value=Post Data/
/wo:form

Case 2: AjaxSubmitButton

wo:form
input type=text name=field1/
wo:AjaxSubmitButton action=$postData value=Post Data 
onClickBefore=someValidation()/
/wo:form

I hope case 2 would work for you or at least would give some hints. But it's 
better if you could post some code so problem could be understood properly.

http://webobjects.insigno.net/wonder/api/er/ajax/AjaxSubmitButton.html

Farrukh

On 2010-04-22, at 8:39 PM, Kalpana Vaka wrote:

 Hi All,
  
 I have javascript file validation.js with all the client side validations for 
 text, numbers, dates etc.,.
  
 When I use WOJavascript with normal submit button, the validations are being 
 raised.
  
 But, when I use AjaxSubmitButton instead of normal submit button, the 
 validations from the js file are being called.
  
 Can anyone help me with this?
  
 Thanks in advance,
 Kalpana.
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Re: DB2

2010-04-22 Thread Jeffrey Simpson
Thanks for your help guys.  The attributes of the problem entity were not 
prototyped.   When I added prototypes everything worked fine.  Why this is true 
I do not know.  I talked to my boss and he has committed to us writing a DB2 
plugin for Wonder.  I do not get to work on this until after I complete this 
upgrade.



Jeffrey Simpson
Senior Software Engineer
Telephone: 240.235.2144
Fax: 240.235.2174

Youth For Understanding (YFU) prepares young people for their responsibilities 
and opportunities in a changing, interdependent world. simp...@yfu.orgon Apr 
21, 2010, at 2:00 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:


 On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:45 AM, Jeffrey Simpson wrote:

 Does anyone else use DB2 with WebObjects?  I have was thinking of
 cleaning up my DB2 plugin and submitting it to Wonder.  I did not
 write most of it.  All the comments are in German and the dates are
 all pre 2004.  I would love to know who the author was.  If someone
 has a more up to date Db2 plugin I would love to  know.

 We have not used it for a while now, but I think having support in
 Wonder would be good.


 I have been upgrading my app to 5.4 and started to get the following
 error on inserts:

 EvaluateExpression failed: com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.As400PlugIn
 $As400Expression: INSERT INTO
 YFUALFADEV.USERNAME_PASSWORD_SESSION(USERNAME_PASSWORD_ID,
 APP_INSTANCE, BROWSER_SESSION_ID, CLIENT_IP, PLATFORM,
 BROWSER_VERSION, SESSION_ID, ADVISELOGOUT, BROWSER_NAME, LOGIN_TIME,
 LOGOUT_TIME, APP_HOST, ID, CLIENT_HOST) VALUES (?, ?, ?,
 NULL, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, NULL, ?, ?, NULL) withBindings:
 1:3220(usernamePasswordID), 2:-1(applicationInstance),
 3:A0C108B79214BFB73C25DBDA6EE2D860(browserSessionID),
 4:MacOS(platform), 5:5.0(browserVersion),
 6:jXggdoBSYar5rpo6iMhT7g(sessionID), 7:1(adviseLogout),
 8:Mozilla(browserName), 9:2010-04-21 10:42:32(loginTime),
 10:chekov.yfuusa.local(applicationHost), 11:-12508119(id): Next
 exception:SQL State:22501 -- error code: -311 -- msg: [SQL0311]
 Length in a varying-length or LOB host variable not valid.
 Cause . . . . . : Host variable was specified. The value in the
 length portion of the variable length or LOB host variable is either
 negative or greater than the declared length. If the host variable
 is graphic the length should be the number of DBCS characters. The
 host variable number is . The specified length is . The variable is
 declared to have length . Recovery . . . : Change the length portion
 of the varying-length or LOB host variable to a valid positive
 number or zero. Try the request again. Next exception:SQL Warning:
 01H10 -- error code: -9 -- msg: Extra URL elements are ignored.

 I am not sure what that means.  Are you using Wonder?  If not, is
 there out dated jdbc2info in your EOModel?  It kind of seems like it
 is interpreting what you are using for varchar as CLOB.


 Anyone have any idea?  I checked the model and none of the values
 are larger then the columns.  Do you think rewriting the plugin to
 match the Wonder examples may help?


 It might, but it seems more like a mismatch in data type.  Are the
 wrong prototypes getting loaded?  Do you need an updated DB2 JDBC
 driver?


 Chuck


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Re: announcement

2010-04-22 Thread Lachlan Deck
Hey there,

On 22/04/2010, at 3:02 PM, Cheong Hee wrote:

 Hi Lachlan
 
 In other news, while announcements are in order: I started a new job a 
 couple of weeks ago where spring+hibernate is in play. So my contributions 
 will mostly likely slow down somewhat, not that they weren't slow already ;) 
 Oh, and my wife and I had a little baby boy 4 weeks ago. Lots of fun. A 
 little bundle of joy!
 Sorry , did i get it right that you are droping WO and leaving the community 
 soon?

Not quite. I'm not dropping WO per se. Just moved to a new job where it's not 
used[1].

I'll still be around, but given that I'm not using it for work anymore won't 
have as much opportunity.

   Congratulations to you and new arrival.  Welcome to fatherhood and 
 certainly life has different joys and meaning, if i am qualified to say as a 
 father of 4 :).  Keep it up.
 

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[1] of course, finding a job in Australia where it is used would be very rare. 
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Re: wonder downloads down???

2010-04-22 Thread David Avendasora
You can watch to see how things are coming along here: 
https://webobjects.mdimension.com/hudson/

I know Mike would love to have us all watching over his shoulder! :-)

Dave

On Apr 22, 2010, at 3:54 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:

 these builds are taking a little longer than i thought -- i tried to get too 
 aggressive with concurrent executors and burned through the memory allocation 
 for this VM, so it started swapping hard. i dropped back to one executor and 
 requeued wonder 5.4 to run in a little bit.
 
 ms
 
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Instance gets down after approx 500 hits; Database backup; Connection pooling with Single Database Context

2010-04-22 Thread Farrukh Ijaz
Hi WOGurus,

1. We've few applications based on same database structure. What happens, one 
of the application after approximately 500 hits gets down. What can be the 
reason for that? (I know the question is too broad but would appreciate for any 
clues).

2. Sometimes the logs show message with Runtime Exception Statement running 
too long what can be the reason. Does the back database backup running on the 
same database can cause this problem? If yes, how to fix that?

3. I've read in the documentation that we can have multiple editing context but 
all of them by default share 1 database context. What I understand from this is 
if we configure pooling setting in the properties file it won't have any affect 
since there is only one channel for database. Is that right? If yes, how can we 
enable them to utilize connection pooling without creating multiple database 
contexts per session.

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Re: Instance gets down after approx 500 hits; Database backup; Connection pooling with Single Database Context

2010-04-22 Thread Chuck Hill


On Apr 22, 2010, at 2:17 PM, Farrukh Ijaz wrote:


Hi WOGurus,

1. We've few applications based on same database structure. What  
happens, one of the application after approximately 500 hits gets  
down. What can be the reason for that? (I know the question is too  
broad but would appreciate for any clues).


What does gets down mean?  Runs out of memory?  The JVM process  
crashes?  Deadlocks?



2. Sometimes the logs show message with Runtime Exception Statement  
running too long what can be the reason.


The statement running too long?  Un-optimized or sub-optimal SQL can  
cause this.  Which database?  Using Wonder?



Does the database backup running on the same database can cause this  
problem? If yes, how to fix that?


It could by making the machine slower.  The fix is database  
dependent.  You could replicated it on a different machine and backup  
that machine.



3. I've read in the documentation that we can have multiple editing  
context but all of them by default share 1 database context.


More importantly one database connection.


What I understand from this is if we configure pooling setting in  
the properties file it won't have any affect since there is only one  
channel for database. Is that right?


I guess that depends on which pooling you are referring to.  One I am  
thinking of randomly assigned an EOF stack wtih DB connection to new  
sessions.



If yes, how can we enable them to utilize connection pooling without  
creating multiple database contexts per session.





Chuck


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Re: DB2

2010-04-22 Thread Chuck Hill

Sounds good!


On Apr 22, 2010, at 1:50 PM, Jeffrey Simpson wrote:

Thanks for your help guys.  The attributes of the problem entity  
were not prototyped.   When I added prototypes everything worked  
fine.  Why this is true I do not know.  I talked to my boss and he  
has committed to us writing a DB2 plugin for Wonder.  I do not get  
to work on this until after I complete this upgrade.




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world. simp...@yfu.orgon Apr 21, 2010, at 2:00 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:




On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:45 AM, Jeffrey Simpson wrote:


Does anyone else use DB2 with WebObjects?  I have was thinking of
cleaning up my DB2 plugin and submitting it to Wonder.  I did not
write most of it.  All the comments are in German and the dates are
all pre 2004.  I would love to know who the author was.  If someone
has a more up to date Db2 plugin I would love to  know.


We have not used it for a while now, but I think having support in
Wonder would be good.



I have been upgrading my app to 5.4 and started to get the following
error on inserts:

EvaluateExpression failed: com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.As400PlugIn
$As400Expression: INSERT INTO
YFUALFADEV.USERNAME_PASSWORD_SESSION(USERNAME_PASSWORD_ID,
APP_INSTANCE, BROWSER_SESSION_ID, CLIENT_IP, PLATFORM,
BROWSER_VERSION, SESSION_ID, ADVISELOGOUT, BROWSER_NAME, LOGIN_TIME,
LOGOUT_TIME, APP_HOST, ID, CLIENT_HOST) VALUES (?, ?, ?,
NULL, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, NULL, ?, ?, NULL) withBindings:
1:3220(usernamePasswordID), 2:-1(applicationInstance),
3:A0C108B79214BFB73C25DBDA6EE2D860(browserSessionID),
4:MacOS(platform), 5:5.0(browserVersion),
6:jXggdoBSYar5rpo6iMhT7g(sessionID), 7:1(adviseLogout),
8:Mozilla(browserName), 9:2010-04-21 10:42:32(loginTime),
10:chekov.yfuusa.local(applicationHost), 11:-12508119(id): Next
exception:SQL State:22501 -- error code: -311 -- msg: [SQL0311]
Length in a varying-length or LOB host variable not valid.
Cause . . . . . : Host variable was specified. The value in the
length portion of the variable length or LOB host variable is either
negative or greater than the declared length. If the host variable
is graphic the length should be the number of DBCS characters. The
host variable number is . The specified length is . The variable is
declared to have length . Recovery . . . : Change the length portion
of the varying-length or LOB host variable to a valid positive
number or zero. Try the request again. Next exception:SQL Warning:
01H10 -- error code: -9 -- msg: Extra URL elements are ignored.


I am not sure what that means.  Are you using Wonder?  If not, is
there out dated jdbc2info in your EOModel?  It kind of seems like it
is interpreting what you are using for varchar as CLOB.



Anyone have any idea?  I checked the model and none of the values
are larger then the columns.  Do you think rewriting the plugin to
match the Wonder examples may help?



It might, but it seems more like a mismatch in data type.  Are the
wrong prototypes getting loaded?  Do you need an updated DB2 JDBC
driver?


Chuck


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Re: announcement

2010-04-22 Thread Lachlan Deck
On 22/04/2010, at 10:26 PM, Michael Schrag wrote:

 Congrats Lachlan!

Thanks!

 My policy in babies, btw, is that they kind of suck for like a year, maybe a 
 year and a half, then all of a sudden you realize they're awesome, so power 
 through it and it will pay off :)

Nah, he's a mini-me, he's awesome already :) An amazing little bundle. There's 
certainly been some moments when he's just been giving any rock band's front 
man a run for his money - but usually a good feed, a good nappy change, and, if 
all else fails, some soothing guitar tones from Tommy Emmanuel turned up and 
he's relaxed as ever. Presents a challenge for us getting to sleep overnight in 
those cases of course ;-) but mostly he's been sleeping well.

 Congratulations on the new job, too. Hopefully you wont disappear forever. We 
 had plenty of disagreements, but you were a great addition to the community.

Thanks. Certainly not signing off the list. Just won't have as much opportunity 
to keep up to date. Necessities of career etc

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Re: announcement

2010-04-22 Thread Lachlan Deck
On 23/04/2010, at 3:57 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:

 Hi Lachlan,
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote:
 
 In other news, while announcements are in order: I started a new job a 
 couple of weeks ago where spring+hibernate is in play. So my contributions 
 will mostly likely slow down somewhat, not that they weren't slow already ;) 
 Oh, and my wife and I had a little baby boy 4 weeks ago. Lots of fun. A 
 little bundle of joy!
 
 Congratulations on your new son!  Remember: in some far off time from now, 
 you WILL get a good night's sleep again.  :-P

At the moment it's every 2nd and 3rd night which is pretty good. We've found a 
few things that seem to work. But it's certainly a whole new responsibility, 
but a good one.

 As for the Spring + Hibernate, I am sure that many people here would be 
 interested in hearing of your experiences and opinions on how it compares to 
 WO development, the better and the worse.

Sure. Haven't seen much of Hibernate yet, and thus far just seen spring's 
injection uses (older spring using xml configs). I'd been using a bit of 
Google's Guice previously for other purposes, so nothing earth shattering 
there. Just another means of abstraction but either way certainly lends itself 
to clean code.

The other interesting shift is doing XP, pair programming and test driven 
development.

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Re: announcement

2010-04-22 Thread Lachlan Deck
On 23/04/2010, at 4:28 AM, David Holt wrote:

 On 2010-04-22, at 10:57 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:
 
 Hi Lachlan,
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote:
 
 In other news, while announcements are in order: I started a new job a 
 couple of weeks ago where spring+hibernate is in play. So my contributions 
 will mostly likely slow down somewhat, not that they weren't slow already 
 ;) Oh, and my wife and I had a little baby boy 4 weeks ago. Lots of fun. A 
 little bundle of joy!
 
 
 Congratulations on your new son!  Remember: in some far off time from now, 
 you WILL get a good night's sleep again.  :-P
 
 Thanks for giving us new parents some... hope :-)

Food, nappies, dummies, car rides, tours of the house (giving them something 
different to look at) and nice music (turned up) seems to help :)

 Congrats Lachlan, it's a great stage of life.

It's brilliant.

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Re: announcement

2010-04-22 Thread Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists
Congratulations Lachlan,

This is a great moment for your family. The only  thing you have to worry about 
is that once they grow up; they will notice you spending too much time working 
with your computer...at least that is what mine do

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On 2010-04-21, at 7:40 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote:

 I was intending to look at the patch asap (e.g., weekend) seeing as I added 
 the h2 plugin and I've got a whole bunch of unit tests utilising migrations + 
 h2.
 I assume you've included any info necessary for testing the patch?
 
 
 But congrats Mike and thanks for all your excellent work over the years!
 
 Naturally you'll have a thousand page NDA to sign and will no longer be able 
 to publicly hassle on the community's behalf :) for such things as the 
 imminent release of the 'g' (i.e., giandura) or WO5.4.3.1 or 5.6 ;-) but I 
 hope your time on the inside is personally rewarding.
 
 
 In other news, while announcements are in order: I started a new job a couple 
 of weeks ago where spring+hibernate is in play. So my contributions will 
 mostly likely slow down somewhat, not that they weren't slow already ;) Oh, 
 and my wife and I had a little baby boy 4 weeks ago. Lots of fun. A little 
 bundle of joy!
 
 On 22/04/2010, at 9:41 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:
 
 Maybe people can put their patched frameworks somewhere so that people can 
 try them before the patch is applied to HEAD? For example, people who use H2 
 could try the patch I did to support the LIMIT operator and they can report 
 if it's working for them. Even if most don't have commit access, it doesn't 
 stop people to try/review the patch.
 
 Building examples and tests is another good way to review the patchs too :-)
 
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 --
 
 Lachlan Deck
 
 
 
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Re: Finding why two UPDATES are send

2010-04-22 Thread Pascal Robert


Le 10-04-22 à 16:31, Pascal Robert a écrit :



Le 10-04-22 à 16:02, Chuck Hill a écrit :


Now that I read the comments in Properties...

Try with
er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.trace.milliSeconds.error=1

That should get you stack traces (assuming the comments are  
correct).  That _may_ shed some light on things.


No luck, I have put a 100 ms limit, and it doesn't say that it's  
taking too long (but it's a damn cool feature!).


Chuck have sent me his SQLLoggingAdaptorChannelDelegate class, and I'm  
going to the exact stack trace! So I did the same calls in Oracle SQL  
Developer (yes, it can talk to MS SQL Server too) and when I do the  
UPDATE call, SQL Dev told me that executeUpdate can't return a  
resultset! But if I do the UPDATE a second time, it's ok. So it's a  
mix of the vendor DB who is sending something back + EOF that think  
the database was down, hence doing the UPDATE automatically a second  
time. This is with WO 5.3.3.


Many thanks to Chuck! I guess I own him a couple of Unibroue bottles,  
or he can call me Robert for a month.






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Re: announcement

2010-04-22 Thread Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists
A little belated congratulations from Whistler, BC. Yes; there is still 330cm 
(11ft) of snow up here.

Thanks for working on WOLips and all your support to this list. I really like 
the work you have done in the past. Will you be continuing to work on WOLips 
while working for Apple? 

With the outside community being a bit smaller now, the only thing that worries 
me is that Apple is even less likely to release WebObjects to the public; and 
more likely to keep it internal only... Come on Apple, what is this legacy 
and not supported on Snow Leopard business.

In other words; if one likes WebObjects, one must work for Apple, or stay with 
5.4.3 forever.

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On 2010-04-21, at 9:33 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:

 Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my last 
 day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple. Not to 
 worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be part of my 
 responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think iTMS has done a 
 really good job demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, with 
 Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work recently 
 with ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the value of the 
 WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look forward to a lot of exciting 
 things in the future.
 
 As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have been a 
 great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years before I came on, 
 Bill would tell me about this framework called WebObjects and how great it 
 was. When I started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a bunch of books, 
 WWDC videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on The Path. mDT has also 
 consistently made a substantial investment in the community, supporting every 
 bit of development that I've done in WOLips, Wonder, WOWODC, and the build 
 servers throughout my time here, and I applaud them for that.
 
 For the things you guys may directly care about:
 
 * WOLips - still working on it
 * Wonder - still working on it
 * Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
 * WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity
 
 To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but you can use my 
 msch...@pobox.com email address.
 
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Re: Finding why two UPDATES are send

2010-04-22 Thread Chuck Hill


On Apr 22, 2010, at 5:26 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:



Le 10-04-22 à 16:31, Pascal Robert a écrit :



Le 10-04-22 à 16:02, Chuck Hill a écrit :


Now that I read the comments in Properties...

Try with
er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.trace.milliSeconds.error=1

That should get you stack traces (assuming the comments are  
correct).  That _may_ shed some light on things.


No luck, I have put a 100 ms limit, and it doesn't say that it's  
taking too long (but it's a damn cool feature!).


Chuck have sent me his SQLLoggingAdaptorChannelDelegate class, and  
I'm going to the exact stack trace! So I did the same calls in  
Oracle SQL Developer (yes, it can talk to MS SQL Server too) and  
when I do the UPDATE call, SQL Dev told me that executeUpdate can't  
return a resultset! But if I do the UPDATE a second time, it's ok.  
So it's a mix of the vendor DB who is sending something back + EOF  
that think the database was down, hence doing the UPDATE  
automatically a second time. This is with WO 5.3.3.


Many thanks to Chuck! I guess I own him a couple of Unibroue  
bottles, or he can call me Robert for a month.



I will settle for some Le Cheval Blanc and calling you Bobby for two  
weeks.  :-P



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Re: Finding why two UPDATES are send

2010-04-22 Thread Pascal Robert


Le 10-04-22 à 20:37, Chuck Hill a écrit :



On Apr 22, 2010, at 5:26 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:



Le 10-04-22 à 16:31, Pascal Robert a écrit :



Le 10-04-22 à 16:02, Chuck Hill a écrit :


Now that I read the comments in Properties...

Try with
er.extensions.ERXAdaptorChannelDelegate.trace.milliSeconds.error=1

That should get you stack traces (assuming the comments are  
correct).  That _may_ shed some light on things.


No luck, I have put a 100 ms limit, and it doesn't say that it's  
taking too long (but it's a damn cool feature!).


Chuck have sent me his SQLLoggingAdaptorChannelDelegate class, and  
I'm going to the exact stack trace! So I did the same calls in  
Oracle SQL Developer (yes, it can talk to MS SQL Server too) and  
when I do the UPDATE call, SQL Dev told me that executeUpdate can't  
return a resultset! But if I do the UPDATE a second time, it's ok.  
So it's a mix of the vendor DB who is sending something back + EOF  
that think the database was down, hence doing the UPDATE  
automatically a second time. This is with WO 5.3.3.


Many thanks to Chuck! I guess I own him a couple of Unibroue  
bottles, or he can call me Robert for a month.



I will settle for some Le Cheval Blanc and calling you Bobby for two  
weeks.  :-P


Cool, so I can die, and come back because it was only a dream! 
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Re: announcement

2010-04-22 Thread Pascal Robert


Le 10-04-22 à 20:32, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists a écrit :

A little belated congratulations from Whistler, BC. Yes; there is  
still 330cm (11ft) of snow up here.


Snow, what's this? It all went away in mid March here!

Thanks for working on WOLips and all your support to this list. I  
really like the work you have done in the past. Will you be  
continuing to work on WOLips while working for Apple?


With the outside community being a bit smaller now, the only thing  
that worries me is that Apple is even less likely to release  
WebObjects to the public; and more likely to keep it internal  
only... Come on Apple, what is this legacy and not supported on  
Snow Leopard business.


We could just try to expand the community. In the last 365 days, 870  
visits on wocommunity.org came from people searching on Google for  
WebObjects tutorials. Sadly, we don't have any tutorials except the  
one Apple did last year... A funny enough, 748 visits after September  
1th 2009, right after Snow Leopard came out and Apple said it was not  
supported in SL Server!  9 350 unique page views for the front page of  
wocommunity.org since September 1th 2009, so there is some interest in  
WO, but sadly except the Apple tutorial and the basic screencasts, we  
don't have much to offer...


In other words; if one likes WebObjects, one must work for Apple, or  
stay with 5.4.3 forever.


With Kind Regards,

Dennis Gaastra,
Chief Technology Officer,
WEBAPPZ®  Systems, Inc.


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On 2010-04-21, at 9:33 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:

Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be  
my last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position  
at Apple. Not to worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will  
be part of my responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I  
think iTMS has done a really good job demonstrating that they're  
committed to contributing, with Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and  
a substantial amount of work recently with ERModernLook. The folks  
over there appreciate the value of the WebObjects and Wonder  
communities, and I look forward to a lot of exciting things in the  
future.


As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They  
have been a great company to work for over the past 5 years. For  
years before I came on, Bill would tell me about this framework  
called WebObjects and how great it was. When I started at mDT, he  
got me going with WO with a bunch of books, WWDC videos, and  
helpful guidance, and they set me on The Path. mDT has also  
consistently made a substantial investment in the community,  
supporting every bit of development that I've done in WOLips,  
Wonder, WOWODC, and the build servers throughout my time here, and  
I applaud them for that.


For the things you guys may directly care about:

* WOLips - still working on it
* Wonder - still working on it
* Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
* WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity

To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but you  
can use my msch...@pobox.com email address.


ms
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Re: announcement

2010-04-22 Thread Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists
Hi Pascal,

I meant to say that Mike's assimilation is somewhat of a loss to the outside 
community; and Apple now has even one less reason to release WebObjects. 

Why don't you make a poll/survey: 

Do you believe Apple is ever going to release WebObjects to the public?

Greetings,

Dennis.

On 2010-04-22, at 5:45 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:

 
 Le 10-04-22 à 20:32, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists a écrit :
 
 A little belated congratulations from Whistler, BC. Yes; there is still 
 330cm (11ft) of snow up here.
 
 Snow, what's this? It all went away in mid March here!
 
 Thanks for working on WOLips and all your support to this list. I really 
 like the work you have done in the past. Will you be continuing to work on 
 WOLips while working for Apple? 
 
 With the outside community being a bit smaller now, the only thing that 
 worries me is that Apple is even less likely to release WebObjects to the 
 public; and more likely to keep it internal only... Come on Apple, what is 
 this legacy and not supported on Snow Leopard business.
 
 We could just try to expand the community. In the last 365 days, 870 visits 
 on wocommunity.org came from people searching on Google for WebObjects 
 tutorials. Sadly, we don't have any tutorials except the one Apple did last 
 year... A funny enough, 748 visits after September 1th 2009, right after Snow 
 Leopard came out and Apple said it was not supported in SL Server!  9 350 
 unique page views for the front page of wocommunity.org since September 1th 
 2009, so there is some interest in WO, but sadly except the Apple tutorial 
 and the basic screencasts, we don't have much to offer...
 
 In other words; if one likes WebObjects, one must work for Apple, or stay 
 with 5.4.3 forever.
 
 With Kind Regards,
 
 Dennis Gaastra, 
 Chief Technology Officer,
 WEBAPPZ®  Systems, Inc.
 
 
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 On 2010-04-21, at 9:33 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:
 
 Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my last 
 day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple. Not to 
 worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be part of my 
 responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think iTMS has done a 
 really good job demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, with 
 Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work recently 
 with ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the value of the 
 WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look forward to a lot of exciting 
 things in the future.
 
 As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have been a 
 great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years before I came 
 on, Bill would tell me about this framework called WebObjects and how great 
 it was. When I started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a bunch of 
 books, WWDC videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on The Path. mDT 
 has also consistently made a substantial investment in the community, 
 supporting every bit of development that I've done in WOLips, Wonder, 
 WOWODC, and the build servers throughout my time here, and I applaud them 
 for that.
 
 For the things you guys may directly care about:
 
 * WOLips - still working on it
 * Wonder - still working on it
 * Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
 * WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity
 
 To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but you can use 
 my msch...@pobox.com email address.
 
 ms
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Re: announcement

2010-04-22 Thread Pascal Robert


Le 10-04-22 à 20:55, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists a écrit :


Hi Pascal,

I meant to say that Mike's assimilation is somewhat of a loss to the  
outside community; and Apple now has even one less reason to release  
WebObjects.


Why don't you make a poll/survey:

Do you believe Apple is ever going to release WebObjects to the  
public?


The survey should instead ask if outsiders (that's us) have given  
feedback about WO future to Apple. For example, how many of us opened  
a Radard asking what's the status of WO? How many can compare WO with  
other frameworks? Who in the community wants to make WO cool again?  
Maybe Apple might do something if they get feedback and start seeing  
some buzz instead of seeing tweets about people who blame WO for every  
Apple Store/ADC problems?


I try to do my best with wocommunity.org but I can't do everything  
alone, and to be honest, I think people just don't care about  
expending the community (I do hope that I'm wrong).



Greetings,

Dennis.

On 2010-04-22, at 5:45 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:



Le 10-04-22 à 20:32, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists a écrit :

A little belated congratulations from Whistler, BC. Yes; there is  
still 330cm (11ft) of snow up here.


Snow, what's this? It all went away in mid March here!

Thanks for working on WOLips and all your support to this list. I  
really like the work you have done in the past. Will you be  
continuing to work on WOLips while working for Apple?


With the outside community being a bit smaller now, the only thing  
that worries me is that Apple is even less likely to release  
WebObjects to the public; and more likely to keep it internal  
only... Come on Apple, what is this legacy and not supported on  
Snow Leopard business.


We could just try to expand the community. In the last 365 days,  
870 visits on wocommunity.org came from people searching on Google  
for WebObjects tutorials. Sadly, we don't have any tutorials except  
the one Apple did last year... A funny enough, 748 visits after  
September 1th 2009, right after Snow Leopard came out and Apple  
said it was not supported in SL Server!  9 350 unique page views  
for the front page of wocommunity.org since September 1th 2009, so  
there is some interest in WO, but sadly except the Apple tutorial  
and the basic screencasts, we don't have much to offer...


In other words; if one likes WebObjects, one must work for Apple,  
or stay with 5.4.3 forever.


With Kind Regards,

Dennis Gaastra,
Chief Technology Officer,
WEBAPPZ®  Systems, Inc.


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On 2010-04-21, at 9:33 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:

Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will  
be my last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a  
position at Apple. Not to worry, though -- supporting WOLips and  
Wonder will be part of my responsibilities, so I'm far from  
disappearing. I think iTMS has done a really good job  
demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, with Entity  
Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work  
recently with ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the  
value of the WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look  
forward to a lot of exciting things in the future.


As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They  
have been a great company to work for over the past 5 years. For  
years before I came on, Bill would tell me about this framework  
called WebObjects and how great it was. When I started at mDT, he  
got me going with WO with a bunch of books, WWDC videos, and  
helpful guidance, and they set me on The Path. mDT has also  
consistently made a substantial investment in the community,  
supporting every bit of development that I've done in WOLips,  
Wonder, WOWODC, and the build servers throughout my time here,  
and I applaud them for that.


For the things you guys may directly care about:

* WOLips - still working on it
* Wonder - still working on it
* Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
* WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple  
capacity


To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but you  
can use my 

Re: announcement

2010-04-22 Thread Mike Schrag
 I meant to say that Mike's assimilation is somewhat of a loss to the outside 
 community; and Apple now has even one less reason to release WebObjects. 
that would be a very pessimistic view of what this means.

ms
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Re: announcement

2010-04-22 Thread Joe Little
As I've mentioned to Chuck -- if I had to do Spring + Hibernate, I'd
only go with Grails, as the GORM approach is far better than just
being stuck with Hibernate Criteria.


On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net wrote:
 Hi Lachlan,

 On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote:

 In other news, while announcements are in order: I started a new job a
 couple of weeks ago where spring+hibernate is in play. So my contributions
 will mostly likely slow down somewhat, not that they weren't slow already ;)
 Oh, and my wife and I had a little baby boy 4 weeks ago. Lots of fun. A
 little bundle of joy!


 Congratulations on your new son!  Remember: in some far off time from now,
 you WILL get a good night's sleep again.  :-P

 As for the Spring + Hibernate, I am sure that many people here would be
 interested in hearing of your experiences and opinions on how it compares to
 WO development, the better and the worse.


 Chuck


 --
 Chuck Hill             Senior Consultant / VP Development

 Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall
 knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems.
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Re: announcement

2010-04-22 Thread Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists
Ciao Pascale,

You are great and your efforts are very much appreciated. I have also been more 
than my share, in driving my internal apple WebObjects contact crazy, and 
complaining why he can't release any of his new work outside of Apple. But as 
much as he feels for the community, he can't do anything. 

[1] So what can we do - as a community - to ensure that these new WebObjects 
releases get indeed released outside of Apple?

[2] Who are the persons blocking any new public WebObjects releases and what 
are their motivations?

[3] What are our options for moving forward?

How about we do a petition to Apple and/or a Dear Steve Jobs email?

Thanks,

Dennis.

On 2010-04-22, at 6:04 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:

 
 Le 10-04-22 à 20:55, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists a écrit :
 
 Hi Pascal,
 
 I meant to say that Mike's assimilation is somewhat of a loss to the outside 
 community; and Apple now has even one less reason to release WebObjects. 
 
 Why don't you make a poll/survey: 
 
 Do you believe Apple is ever going to release WebObjects to the public?
 
 The survey should instead ask if outsiders (that's us) have given feedback 
 about WO future to Apple. For example, how many of us opened a Radard asking 
 what's the status of WO? How many can compare WO with other frameworks? Who 
 in the community wants to make WO cool again? Maybe Apple might do something 
 if they get feedback and start seeing some buzz instead of seeing tweets 
 about people who blame WO for every Apple Store/ADC problems? 
 
 I try to do my best with wocommunity.org but I can't do everything alone, and 
 to be honest, I think people just don't care about expending the community (I 
 do hope that I'm wrong).
 
 Greetings,
 
 Dennis.
 
 On 2010-04-22, at 5:45 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:
 
 
 Le 10-04-22 à 20:32, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists a écrit :
 
 A little belated congratulations from Whistler, BC. Yes; there is still 
 330cm (11ft) of snow up here.
 
 Snow, what's this? It all went away in mid March here!
 
 Thanks for working on WOLips and all your support to this list. I really 
 like the work you have done in the past. Will you be continuing to work on 
 WOLips while working for Apple? 
 
 With the outside community being a bit smaller now, the only thing that 
 worries me is that Apple is even less likely to release WebObjects to the 
 public; and more likely to keep it internal only... Come on Apple, what is 
 this legacy and not supported on Snow Leopard business.
 
 We could just try to expand the community. In the last 365 days, 870 visits 
 on wocommunity.org came from people searching on Google for WebObjects 
 tutorials. Sadly, we don't have any tutorials except the one Apple did last 
 year... A funny enough, 748 visits after September 1th 2009, right after 
 Snow Leopard came out and Apple said it was not supported in SL Server!  9 
 350 unique page views for the front page of wocommunity.org since September 
 1th 2009, so there is some interest in WO, but sadly except the Apple 
 tutorial and the basic screencasts, we don't have much to offer...
 
 In other words; if one likes WebObjects, one must work for Apple, or stay 
 with 5.4.3 forever.
 
 With Kind Regards,
 
 Dennis Gaastra, 
 Chief Technology Officer,
 WEBAPPZ®  Systems, Inc.
 
 
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 On 2010-04-21, at 9:33 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:
 
 Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my 
 last day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple. 
 Not to worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be part of my 
 responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think iTMS has done a 
 really good job demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, 
 with Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work 
 recently with ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the value of 
 the WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look forward to a lot of 
 exciting things in the future.
 
 As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have been 
 a great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years before I 
 came on, Bill would tell me about this framework 

Re: Javascript is not called by AjaxSubmitButton

2010-04-22 Thread Kalpana Vaka
Hi Farurukh,

Thanks for your help.

My validation script is running on form's onClick event. If I write the
javascript directly in the WOComponent, it is getting called by
AjaxSubmitButton.

When we use external js file, then the functions in external js functions
are not getting fired.

Pleae let me know your suggestions to resolve the issue.
Thanks  Regards,
Kalpana.


On 4/23/10, Farrukh Ijaz farrukh.i...@fuegodigitalmedia.com wrote:

 If you're validation script is running on form's onSubmit event. I
 suspect these scripts won't get fired with AjaxSubmitButton however you can
 fire them in onClickBefore event of AjaxSubmitButton and if the script
 returns true the data will be posted to the action E.g.

 Case 1: Normal Submit Button

 wo:form onSubmit=someValidations()
input type=text name=field1/
wo:submit action=$postData value=Post Data/
 /wo:form

 Case 2: AjaxSubmitButton

 wo:form
input type=text name=field1/
wo:AjaxSubmitButton action=$postData value=Post Data
 onClickBefore=someValidation()/
 /wo:form

 I hope case 2 would work for you or at least would give some hints. But
 it's better if you could post some code so problem could be understood
 properly.

 http://webobjects.insigno.net/wonder/api/er/ajax/AjaxSubmitButton.html

 Farrukh

 On 2010-04-22, at 8:39 PM, Kalpana Vaka wrote:

  Hi All,
 
  I have javascript file validation.js with all the client side validations
 for text, numbers, dates etc.,.
 
  When I use WOJavascript with normal submit button, the validations are
 being raised.
 
  But, when I use AjaxSubmitButton instead of normal submit button, the
 validations from the js file are being called.
 
  Can anyone help me with this?
 
  Thanks in advance,
  Kalpana.
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build servers

2010-04-22 Thread Mike Schrag
i think the build server is finally all back to life now ... wonder 5.4 is 
finishing up building now, and i think all the pieces are there.

ms
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