Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice-Extensions-Template-Website

2011-06-24 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi Christian, *,

Am Freitag, 24. Juni 2011, 02:35:09 schrieb Christian Lohmaier:
 Hi Andreas, *,
 
 On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:18 PM, Andreas Mantke ma...@gmx.de wrote:
  The new site is currently available at
  http://kermit.documentfoundation.org:9089/LibreOffice-Extensions-and-Temp
  lates/
  
  There is currently no content inside this new site (no extensions or
  templates) and only a placeholder home page.
 
 There is a dummy-entry now and that makes me complain loudly:
 http://kermit.documentfoundation.org:9089/LibreOffice-Extensions-and-Templa
 tes/libreoffice-extensions-center/test-2
 
 * No Licence specified → This absolutely must be mandatory for the repo!
   License is hidden in the read more for the specific release, but
 not right in front.
 * Same for Author/Provider/Publisher
 

I will look in this later.

 If you have license by release, make it part of the table on the
 description page please. And also provide it on the search results
 page. This is very relevant information after all.
 
 Screenshots are free-form editable in the description text? (you
 definitely need to be able to provide screenshots/a logo)


This is posible. I added a logo and a screenshot and had to look into it later, 
why 
the screenshot is not displayed yet.
 
 And the self-certification points are very, very vague. What is the
 reason behind it? Why have them at all?

It is the default of Plone Software Center yet. We can change the categories. I 
want 
to discuss this here.

 The developer of the extension surely follows his own coding standards →
 checked The extension works on his own computer, he can install and
 uninstall → checked End-user documentation? Heck my extension is so simple
 it doesn't need documentation :-)

I showed this list here to engage you (and otheres) to provide better 
categories ;-)

 Unit Tests? What user will know what that is supposed to mean...
 Internationalized... Probably means UI is available in the following
 languages... for most part, no real i18n...
 

There is no description about the categories available. We had to define our 
own 
categories and describe them.

 So there' no relevant info for the end-user IMHO.

That's what we should improve together.

Regards,
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[libreoffice-website] Re: planet / hackergotchis ...

2011-06-24 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi guys,

I was wondering looking at:

http://planet.documentfoundation.org/
cf.
http://planet.gnome.org/

Why we don't use hackergotchis - these are IMHO a great way to
help people learn other people's faces before they meet them in person,
which reduces the cognitive load at conferences, and helps increase the
focus on learning entirely new people's faces there :-)

Was it a deliberate to turn that off ? and/or can we have it on
again ?

Thanks,

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Mumble and OpenMeetings servers

2011-06-24 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Marc, *,

On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 5:10 AM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote:
 Le 2011-06-23 13:14, Christian Lohmaier a écrit :

 [bypassing the certificate warning did not work in german locale, had to 
 switch to C to accept the certificate]

 Is this with the latest client 1.2.3?

No, this is with the client available on Mandriva 2010.2 (mumble 1.2.2)

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Mumble and OpenMeetings servers

2011-06-24 Thread Christian Lohmaier
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Christian Lohmaier
lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com wrote:

 The problem is solved by starting it in C locale environment (LC_ALL=C
 mumble) - that did let me pass the certificate validation check (i.e.
 it accepted the yes) and I could login.
 After that, it works in german langauge as well.

And in case this is unclear - the after that it works means
connecting to the server then works, as the certificate-decision is
remembered. Accepting certificates for other servers probably still
won't work in German locale. But accpeting the certificate in C locale
is an easy workaround (but you need to know about it of course)

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: planet / hackergotchis ...

2011-06-24 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Michael Meeks wrote:
 Was it a deliberate to turn that off ? and/or can we have it on
 again ?

Sure - but not mandatory please. Also, maybe someone has a nice idea
wrt. the style, e.g. shadow, fuzziness, other effects (bonus for a
gimp script); or artificial (like http://planet.freedesktop.org/)?

Having it somewhat homogeneous is a plus, in my mind.
 
Cheers,

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Fwd: Libre means 'free'

2011-06-24 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Flo, *,

On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Florian Effenberger
flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
 Hi,

 forwarding this remark, maybe someone wants to have a look?

changed to ...free (in the sense of freedom or liberty)...

ciao
Christian

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[libreoffice-website] right hand side of wrapped paragraphs hidden - any solutions other than BR tags?

2011-06-24 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


https://dvd.north-america.libreofficebox.org/home/en/;

I found the part of the CSS that causes the right side of the page to  be 
hidden.
 
Why this hiddenoption is needed.
 
Couldthere could be some sort of auto wrap option somewhere that will  wrap the text instead of hiding it.


I wondered about that.  The wrapping works, but it leaves off a lot of text on 
the right hand side of the paragraph.
 
 #Layout {

  width: 860px;
  background: #fff url(../images/bg-sidebar.png) no-repeat top left;
  clear: both;
  overflow: hidden;
  margin: 0px auto;
  padding: 15px 15px 15px 15px;
 }



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Re: [libreoffice-website] right hand side of wrapped paragraphs hidden - any solutions other than BR tags?

2011-06-24 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi *,

On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 4:37 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press
Productions webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:

 https://dvd.north-america.libreofficebox.org/home/en/;

 I found the part of the CSS that causes the right side of the page to  be
 hidden.
  Why this hiddenoption is needed.

a) You *must not* use div id=Layout in your html, there is already
one div with that ID as part of the default layout, and you cannot
have two elements with the same ID in html, this is not valid. Same
for the other divs you did duplicate (BgContainer, Container, the
Header)
b) And you have an additional div class=typography, this again is
autogenerated, and is set to the full width of the page. When you have
additional elements on the left, then it doesn't fit anymore.

So the problem is you're misusing predefined/special css styles and
have hard formatting in your html.

Furthermore it abuses tables for layout. Tables don't make
autoflow easier at all.

  Couldthere could be some sort of auto wrap option somewhere that will  wrap
 the text instead of hiding it.

No, as you explicitly tell it to not do that. The html contains manual
width specification of 784 pixel

So clean up the HTML - what you try to do is to fit the content
within the content, and that doesn't work.

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] [PING -- Florian] Gmane not working

2011-06-24 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2011-06-15 14:03, Marc Paré a écrit :
Just wondering if Florian could contact the Gmane people and ask them 
to review their settings for Gmane. Most of the mail lists are 
readable and the messages are coming through BUT on most people cannot 
send a new post, cannot answer a post. This should be fixed soon as 
the Gmane option of communication with the mailing lists are not 
really of any use to people who would like to contribute.


Cheers

Marc

Hi Florian -- Gmane is still not working. Could someone look into this. 
None of the global mailists are working.


Cheers

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Re: [libreoffice-website] right hand side of wrapped paragraphs hidden - any solutions other than BR tags?

2011-06-24 Thread drew
On Fri, 2011-06-24 at 17:04 +0200, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
 Hi *,
 
 On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 4:37 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press
 Productions webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:
 
  https://dvd.north-america.libreofficebox.org/home/en/;
 
  I found the part of the CSS that causes the right side of the page to  be
  hidden.
   Why this hiddenoption is needed.
 
 a) You *must not* use div id=Layout in your html, there is already
 one div with that ID as part of the default layout, and you cannot
 have two elements with the same ID in html, this is not valid. Same
 for the other divs you did duplicate (BgContainer, Container, the
 Header)
 b) And you have an additional div class=typography, this again is
 autogenerated, and is set to the full width of the page. When you have
 additional elements on the left, then it doesn't fit anymore.
 
 So the problem is you're misusing predefined/special css styles and
 have hard formatting in your html.

Well, when the original HTML files where made they weren't in the CMS
system so there was no misuse of anything, per so.


 Furthermore it abuses tables for layout. Tables don't make
 autoflow easier at all.
 
   Couldthere could be some sort of auto wrap option somewhere that will  wrap
  the text instead of hiding it.
 
 No, as you explicitly tell it to not do that. The html contains manual
 width specification of 784 pixel
 
 So clean up the HTML - what you try to do is to fit the content
 within the content, and that doesn't work.

Agreed - and that is about to begin - but still moving files into
different directory structure at the moment. (will be done sometime
tomorrow, maybe tonight)

@Tim - this is what I was talking about needing to do some
transformations on the HTML prior to cutting it into the CMS system.

@Christian. Your explanation, or description, of some of the pre-defined
elements is a big help actually.

Thanks much,

//drew


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Re: [libreoffice-website] right hand side of wrapped paragraphs hidden - any solutions other than BR tags?

2011-06-24 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 06/24/2011 11:04 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:

Hi *,

On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 4:37 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press
Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com  wrote:

https://dvd.north-america.libreofficebox.org/home/en/;

I found the part of the CSS that causes the right side of the page to  be
hidden.
  Why this hiddenoption is needed.

a) You *must not* usediv id=Layout  in your html, there is already
one div with that ID as part of the default layout, and you cannot
have two elements with the same ID in html, this is not valid. Same
for the other divs you did duplicate (BgContainer, Container, the
Header)
b) And you have an additional div class=typography, this again is
autogenerated, and is set to the full width of the page. When you have
additional elements on the left, then it doesn't fit anymore.

So the problem is you're misusing predefined/special css styles and
have hard formatting in your html.

Furthermore it abuses tables for layout. Tables don't make
autoflow easier at all.


  Couldthere could be some sort of auto wrap option somewhere that will  wrap
the text instead of hiding it.

No, as you explicitly tell it to not do that. The html contains manual
width specification of 784 pixel

So clean up the HTML - what you try to do is to fit the content
within the content, and that doesn't work.

ciao
Christian

I was looking at the layout CSS for the CMS server and was wondering why 
the wrapped text seems to be hidden on the right hand side of the paragraph.


I was wondering if there was a fix that could be used so NA site that is 
being built on the CMS server, now on the libreoffice-na.us site, so 
there would not be any hidden text issues.


The table work was to deal with some alignment issues, but not it is 
being rebuilt to the CMS server specs.


Is there a way that the right site of the page would auto wrap so there 
is no hidden text?


Drew is doing the work right now, but I will be helping once I finish up 
some commitments locally.


I want the pages to be the best looking pages that can be done using the 
CMS server CSS.





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Re: [libreoffice-website] right hand side of wrapped paragraphs hidden - any solutions other than BR tags?

2011-06-24 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Drew, *,

On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 5:26 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote:
 On Fri, 2011-06-24 at 17:04 +0200, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 4:37 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press
 Productions webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:
 
  https://dvd.north-america.libreofficebox.org/home/en/;
 
  I found the part of the CSS that causes the right side of the page to  be
  hidden.
   Why this hiddenoption is needed.

 a) You *must not* use div id=Layout in your html, there is already
 one div with that ID as part of the default layout, and you cannot
 have two elements with the same ID in html, this is not valid. Same
 for the other divs you did duplicate (BgContainer, Container, the
 Header)
 b) And you have an additional div class=typography, this again is
 autogenerated, and is set to the full width of the page. When you have
 additional elements on the left, then it doesn't fit anymore.

 So the problem is you're misusing predefined/special css styles and
 have hard formatting in your html.

 Well, when the original HTML files where made they weren't in the CMS
 system so there was no misuse of anything, per so.

Well, let me be more clear: what is stored in the CMS is not the
complete body, as this would make it impossible to create the
navigation dynamic, to have a common header, footer, etc.
What is stored in the CMS is the real content only. But what was
added in your sample was the complete body, duplicateing the header
and whatnot.

It's pretty clear from the structure, that a page that was created by
the CMS was taken as a template, but you just did copy too much.
For the default page type, only what is wihin the div
class=typography is part of the CMS (minus the header (h2)that is
also taken from the page automatically)

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] right hand side of wrapped paragraphs hidden - any solutions other than BR tags?

2011-06-24 Thread Christian Lohmaier
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 5:31 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press
Productions webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:

 I was looking at the layout CSS for the CMS server and was wondering why the
 wrapped text seems to be hidden on the right hand side of the paragraph.

No. Text is hidden, because the content part in the theme is just
defined to be the area in the BgContainer.

 I was wondering if there was a fix that could be used so NA site that is
 being built on the CMS server, now on the libreoffice-na.us site, so there
 would not be any hidden text issues.

Yes: Don't force the text/elements to be wider as the available area.
Remove your hard formatting.

 The table work was to deal with some alignment issues, but not it is being
 rebuilt to the CMS server specs.

Trying to do alignment with tables is bad. Better use appropriate css
styles on semantic elements. Only use a table when what you have is
actually tabular data.

 Is there a way that the right site of the page would auto wrap so there is
 no hidden text?

Again: If you tell This element is 780pixels wide, but there is only
room for 600pixels, you're forcing the text to not wrap. Get rid of
your manually defined styles, especially the fixed-width
specifications.

Start with semantic html, i.e. what the job of the element is, and
then work on the layout, not the other way round.

 I want the pages to be the best looking pages that can be done using the CMS
 server CSS.

Well - you can use your own style=... tags in the html, those are
not stripped.
And furthermore the CSS is not by the CMS, it was created by us, so
when the CSS is lacking/needs some more styles, those can be added of
course.

But using hard formatting is very, very bad.

And don't just create divs because you want to indent a paragraph,
just specify that indent on the paragraph for example. Just because
the CMS is configured to allow manually specified styles doesn't mean
that all manually specified styles make sense.

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Fwd: Libre means 'free'

2011-06-24 Thread Florian Effenberger

Thanks!

Christian Lohmaier wrote on 2011-06-24 15.42:

changed to ...free (in the sense of freedom or liberty)...


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[libreoffice-website] Gmane still not allowing replies to lists since changeover

2011-06-24 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Hi Florian, all,

Ever since the changeover in the mailing lists, I have been unable to
post by reply using Gmane to the following lists :

- website
- documentation
- projects
- accessibility
- marketing
- marketing.us
- design

It is getting rather tiring, and not to mention inconvenient, because it
means I have to start a new thread if I want to reply to someone. I was
of the understanding that we wouldn't have to resubscribe, and that
these problems had been cleared up, but that is certainly not the case
for me.

Can anyone shed any light please ?

Alex

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Gmane still not allowing replies to lists since changeover

2011-06-24 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi Alex,

Alexander Thurgood wrote on 2011-06-24 17.35:

It is getting rather tiring, and not to mention inconvenient, because it
means I have to start a new thread if I want to reply to someone. I was
of the understanding that we wouldn't have to resubscribe, and that
these problems had been cleared up, but that is certainly not the case
for me.

Can anyone shed any light please ?


sorry for the inconveniences - this is sadly outside of our direct 
influence. :( I pinged the GMANE admins again just today, hope they will 
act soon...


Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Gmane still not allowing replies to lists since changeover

2011-06-24 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2011-06-24 18:09, Florian Effenberger a écrit :

Hi Alex,

Alexander Thurgood wrote on 2011-06-24 17.35:

It is getting rather tiring, and not to mention inconvenient, because it
means I have to start a new thread if I want to reply to someone. I was
of the understanding that we wouldn't have to resubscribe, and that
these problems had been cleared up, but that is certainly not the case
for me.

Can anyone shed any light please ?


sorry for the inconveniences - this is sadly outside of our direct 
influence. :( I pinged the GMANE admins again just today, hope they 
will act soon...


Florian


Hi Alex

I had not unsubscribed from the mailing lists as I was monitoring the 
number of mails per day (just one of my obsessions that I like to keep 
track of). I had only unsubscribed from one list. I imagine to not 
having to subscribe back to the mailing list, you could use Nabble until 
the Gmane is fixed. I know this may mean more work than Gmane, but it 
would be a temporary fix. I am using the Mailing lists for now and 
saving all the mail so that it is indexed.


I am also looking forward to the fix.

Cheers

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Mumble and OpenMeetings servers

2011-06-24 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2011-06-24 06:16, Christian Lohmaier a écrit :

On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Christian Lohmaier
lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com  wrote:

The problem is solved by starting it in C locale environment (LC_ALL=C
mumble) - that did let me pass the certificate validation check (i.e.
it accepted the yes) and I could login.
After that, it works in german langauge as well.

And in case this is unclear - the after that it works means
connecting to the server then works, as the certificate-decision is
remembered. Accepting certificates for other servers probably still
won't work in German locale. But accpeting the certificate in C locale
is an easy workaround (but you need to know about it of course)

ciao
Christian

HI Christian, could you pass tis around on the DE lists, if you have not 
done so already?


Re: Mandriva version 1.2.2 -- Hopefully this will disappear with the 
newer version. I'm on Mageia, I am not sure when the newer 1.2.3 client 
will be available. Maybe I will give the packager(s) a nudge on this.


Cheers

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Fwd: Libre means 'free'

2011-06-24 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2011-06-24 09:42, Christian Lohmaier a écrit :

Hi Flo, *,

On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Florian Effenberger
flo...@documentfoundation.org  wrote:

Hi,

forwarding this remark, maybe someone wants to have a look?


changed to ...free (in the sense of freedom or liberty)...

ciao
Christian

Well, in reality, in French and Spanish, it does mean freedom and not 
free , but, the way that you have put the wording together does make 
sense for our use. Thanks for doing this.


Cheers

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Re: [libreoffice-website] right hand side of wrapped paragraphs hidden - any solutions other than BR tags?

2011-06-24 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 06/24/2011 11:46 AM, drew wrote:

On Fri, 2011-06-24 at 17:34 +0200, Christian Lohmaier wrote:

Hi Drew, *,

On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 5:26 PM, drewd...@baseanswers.com  wrote:

On Fri, 2011-06-24 at 17:04 +0200, Christian Lohmaier wrote:

On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 4:37 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press
Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com  wrote:

https://dvd.north-america.libreofficebox.org/home/en/;

I found the part of the CSS that causes the right side of the page to  be
hidden.
  Why this hiddenoption is needed.

a) You *must not* usediv id=Layout  in your html, there is already
one div with that ID as part of the default layout, and you cannot
have two elements with the same ID in html, this is not valid. Same
for the other divs you did duplicate (BgContainer, Container, the
Header)
b) And you have an additional div class=typography, this again is
autogenerated, and is set to the full width of the page. When you have
additional elements on the left, then it doesn't fit anymore.

So the problem is you're misusing predefined/special css styles and
have hard formatting in your html.

Well, when the original HTML files where made they weren't in the CMS
system so there was no misuse of anything, per so.

Well, let me be more clear: what is stored in the CMS is not the
complete body, as this would make it impossible to create the
navigation dynamic, to have a common header, footer, etc.
What is stored in the CMS is the real content only. But what was
added in your sample was the complete body, duplicateing the header
and whatnot.

thanks for explaining that.


It's pretty clear from the structure, that a page that was created by
the CMS was taken as a template, but you just did copy too much.

Absolutely right, that became very clear when I started looking at this.


For the default page type, only what is wihin thediv
class=typography  is part of the CMS (minus the header (h2)that is
also taken from the page automatically)

@Tim - I know the page that came back after the fix the other day looks
like hell - but no one is going to leave it like that. I maybe should of
put a nice looking landing page there, but I figured it was just Ugly
for a few days and better to get the files we need to like to moved and
rearranged first.

//drew

I have no problem with ugly with the move to better and then to lovely.

What I really was concerned about was that hiding of the right hand side 
of the text - so the thread was started.


I also wondered about some other items that might crop up.

Why the vertical navigation instead of the horizontal second or third 
ones like both LO.org site and the wiki site.


The vertical navigation tends to remove needed screen space, as I see 
it.  I never liked them much.  Now that we have about 600px width for 
space, we need to guard as much of it is possible.


Actually, for the installs, I added thought adding German might be good, 
since that is the last language not listed that the US schools teach in 
my area.


Right now the installs on the CMS site shows 3.3.2 and not 3.3.3, so 
that may need to changed.


--

Also I was wondering how the system would compensate for all the 
shared folders and links so the files will be properly located on the 
ISO of the DVD?  The only one I have seen so far is from Brazil and it 
looks like they did very little that was similar to what the NA DVD will 
need.


Maybe someone could PM me about how that will work, or point me to the 
documentation already available.


As for the extensions and such that is not currently on our DVD and 
currently resides in my private extension folders;
  I was wondering if anyone who is currently working on a CMS 
site would want these file uploaded to a shared folder so everyone could 
use them.  I still thing LibreOffice need to have their own large 
extension and template site.  The dictionaries now on the NA testing 
site are many, many, more than listed in the current LO/LO-Planet 
extension listing.  The same with the templates I have in my template 
folders.  LO needs to not have the link for these .oxt files, or 
archived files, point to a flaky OOo server or any server that is 
totally pro OOo over LibreOffice.  Why should we promote using OOo's 
server when the files could be on a shared folder of a LibreOffice 
server/system.


So do anyone want 100+ .oxt extension [not dictionaries] uploaded to a 
shared folder, along with the 1000+ template sample files that are not 
.oxt files?  I most likely have a lot of artwork from free sources that 
could be uploaded as well.


It is up to the groups to say yes or no.  If anyone would like a 
archived file containing the .oxt files, or other stuff, let me know.  I 
would be able to make them available some way, some where, for people to 
look and see what they are all about.  Every extension file that I 
downloaded from OOo's site has an associated PDF file printed from the 
download page[s] so people can know what these files are all 

Re: [libreoffice-website] right hand side of wrapped paragraphs hidden - any solutions other than BR tags?

2011-06-24 Thread drew
On Fri, 2011-06-24 at 21:03 -0400, webmaster for Kracked Press
Productions wrote:
 snip

  @Tim - I know the page that came back after the fix the other day looks
  like hell - but no one is going to leave it like that. I maybe should of
  put a nice looking landing page there, but I figured it was just Ugly
  for a few days and better to get the files we need to like to moved and
  rearranged first.

 I have no problem with ugly with the move to better and then to lovely.
 
 What I really was concerned about was that hiding of the right hand side 
 of the text - so the thread was started.
 
 I also wondered about some other items that might crop up.
 
 Why the vertical navigation instead of the horizontal second or third 
 ones like both LO.org site and the wiki site.

Different theme..

I just chanted that - Look at the site right now:
http://dvd.north-america.libreofficebox.org


 
 The vertical navigation tends to remove needed screen space, as I see 
 it.  I never liked them much.  Now that we have about 600px width for 
 space, we need to guard as much of it is possible.

Right - I tend to agree, so maybe we need to make our own theme, again,
or just convince others to let us 

 
 Actually, for the installs, I added thought adding German might be good, 
 since that is the last language not listed that the US schools teach in 
 my area.

Uh - I would be hard sell on that - not impossible, but a very very hard
sell. I would much prefer to finish what we started without changing the
target at this point, for this 21 day period - let's keep very focused
and get this done, well.

 
 Right now the installs on the CMS site shows 3.3.2 and not 3.3.3, so 
 that may need to changed.

Old files Tim, the HTML files there having been sitting dormant for a
couple of months. Like I said the reason for a hard date this time was
so that we don't stall, again. (yes I know I'm talking about and to
myself maybe)

 
 --
 
 Also I was wondering how the system would compensate for all the 
 shared folders and links so the files will be properly located on the 
 ISO of the DVD?  The only one I have seen so far is from Brazil and it 
 looks like they did very little that was similar to what the NA DVD will 
 need.

Right and it appears to me that they also did not use the CMS to produce
the .iso, only for distribution, so far.

But there is a question there I've been running through my mind today
also and I suppose should be taken up on the projects list. 

 
 Maybe someone could PM me about how that will work, or point me to the 
 documentation already available.

We need to talk about on, or I should say: I thought we all agreed to
use the projects list to discuss libreofficebox issues. 
 
 As for the extensions and such that is not currently on our DVD and 
 currently resides in my private extension folders;

Please move this question to a different email thread, maybe with a
subject line about the upcoming extension/template site.

//drew



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Re: [libreoffice-website] Fwd: Libre means 'free'

2011-06-24 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2011-06-24 21:48, Christian Lohmaier a écrit :

Hi Marc, *,

On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 12:38 AM, Marc Parém...@marcpare.com  wrote:

Le 2011-06-24 09:42, Christian Lohmaier a écrit :

On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Florian Effenberger
flo...@documentfoundation.orgwrote:

forwarding this remark, maybe someone wants to have a look?


changed to ...free (in the sense of freedom or liberty)...


Well, in reality, in French and Spanish, it does mean freedom and not
free ,

Nah, freedom as in the noun, no. that would be liberté, wouldn't it?
Je suis libre, j'ai la liberté de faire ce que me plait.
I am free, I have the freedom to do what I like.
(I'm free to choose, as opposed that I'm getting something for free,
i.e. without having to pay)

Do you disagree?

ciao
Christian

Yes as you say: it does mean free in English but as freedom in 
English, not as the word free of charge which is gratuit. In this 
case you are using the adverb libre and its corresponding noun 
liberté which mean the same = freedom.


Anyway, these are all semantics. The fact remains that the way you 
qualified the free (in the sense of freedom or liberty) is fine 
for those who are not native to the language which is the what the 
statement attempts to do.


Cheers

Marc

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Fwd: Libre means 'free'

2011-06-24 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2011-06-24 22:45, Marc Paré a écrit :

Le 2011-06-24 21:48, Christian Lohmaier a écrit :

Hi Marc, *,

On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 12:38 AM, Marc Parém...@marcpare.com  wrote:

Le 2011-06-24 09:42, Christian Lohmaier a écrit :

On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Florian Effenberger
flo...@documentfoundation.orgwrote:

forwarding this remark, maybe someone wants to have a look?


changed to ...free (in the sense of freedom or liberty)...


Well, in reality, in French and Spanish, it does mean freedom and not
free ,

Nah, freedom as in the noun, no. that would be liberté, wouldn't it?
Je suis libre, j'ai la liberté de faire ce que me plait.
I am free, I have the freedom to do what I like.
(I'm free to choose, as opposed that I'm getting something for free,
i.e. without having to pay)

Do you disagree?

ciao
Christian

Yes as you say: it does mean free in English but as freedom in 
English, not as the word free of charge which is gratuit. In this 
case you are using the adverb libre and its corresponding noun 
liberté which mean the same = freedom.


Anyway, these are all semantics. The fact remains that the way you 
qualified the free (in the sense of freedom or liberty) is fine 
for those who are not native to the language which is the what the 
statement attempts to do.


Cheers

Marc


Sorry should read: adjective rather than adverb

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