Re: [libreoffice-website] SPAM

2011-02-06 Thread Michael Wheatland
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Sophie Gautier gautier.sop...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Drew,
 On 06/02/2011 05:12, drew wrote:

 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Pain_Management_Nursing_Jobs

 Thanks for the report.
 I'm taking care of deleting the spam every day, morning and evening my time,
 so you may found some of them during your day time, but at the end of our
 day, the wiki should be clean ;-)

 Kind regards
 Sophie

Is it possible for a regular member of the wiki delete a page rather
than remove the content?

Also, having not had admin experience with mediawiki, is it possible
to give people within the website team admin rights?
Does anyone know how we go about doing that, and who are the current
admin of the wiki?

Michael Wheatland

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Hover-menu-popup for the main menu?

2011-02-06 Thread Ivan M.
Hi Narayan, all,

On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Narayan Aras narayana...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Only some menu items have second level menus. Critically the first two don't 
 (but this would change when the why pages are restored to the menu system).

 So should the items have a sign (e.g. a downward-pointing triangle) that 
 indicates existence of a submenu?

+1 if we have a dynamic (e.g. hover) menu.

Regards,
Ivan.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] SPAM

2011-02-06 Thread Sophie Gautier

Hi Michael,
On 06/02/2011 11:58, Michael Wheatland wrote:

On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Sophie Gautiergautier.sop...@gmail.com  wrote:

Hi Drew,
On 06/02/2011 05:12, drew wrote:


http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Pain_Management_Nursing_Jobs


Thanks for the report.
I'm taking care of deleting the spam every day, morning and evening my time,
so you may found some of them during your day time, but at the end of our
day, the wiki should be clean ;-)

Kind regards
Sophie


Is it possible for a regular member of the wiki delete a page rather
than remove the content?


rights are here
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Special:ListGroupRights


Also, having not had admin experience with mediawiki, is it possible
to give people within the website team admin rights?


For those who want to work on the wiki admin yes, for the other one this 
is not necessary imho. Florian is managing rights here.



Does anyone know how we go about doing that, and who are the current
admin of the wiki?

here is the list of sysop
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/index.php?title=Special:ListUsersgroup=sysop

Kind regards
Sophie

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Re: [libreoffice-website] CAPTCHA to subscribe to the wiki?

2011-02-06 Thread Sophie Gautier

Hi Mike,
On 06/02/2011 12:06, Mike Houben wrote:

Hi Sophie,

do you mean for registration or for which part of the wiki are you talking?$


Yes for registering a new user account. I don't like captcha, but that 
may avoid spam too.


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Re: [libreoffice-website] CAPTCHA to subscribe to the wiki?

2011-02-06 Thread Michael Wheatland

On 06/02/11 18:46, Mike Houben wrote:

Hi Sophie,

their [1] is no CAPTCHA. We should consider to put a small CAPTCHA their.

Mike

Could we install http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ReCAPTCHA
I have global API keys for the service. In my experience ReCaptcha works 
better than other captcha tools.


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Inviting a new web designer to work with us (was: LibO website dev..)

2011-02-06 Thread Ivan M.
Hi Bernhard, all,

On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Bernhard Dippold
bernh...@familie-dippold.at wrote:
 [... many good points]
 And as this is my personal point of view (but based on years of experience
 in this community), I'd like others to add a short +1 or -1 to this
 summary showing if I met their point of prioritizing collaboration over
 single time donation.

I probably don't need to say this, but, for the record (and
solidarity), +1 for collaboration over single time 'donation'.

Regards,
Ivan.

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[libreoffice-website] [Silverstripe] some missing links and beta-release screenshots

2011-02-06 Thread gilles

Hi all,
rapidly checking some NL main pages to see what is done with screenshots 
and links:


---/FR/---
page: http://fr.libreoffice.org/libreoffice/
picture: yes, screenshot localized BUT Beta-release
linkable: Yes, to http://fr.libreoffice.org/telechargement-de-libreoffice/
link status: KO, white page with:

The requested page could not be found.



---/ES/---
page: http://es.libreoffice.org/caracteristicas/
picture: yes, screenshot localized and up-to-date
linkable: Yes, to http://es.libreoffice.org/caracteristicas/capturas/
link status: KO, white page with:

The action 'capturas' does not exist in class Page_Controller



---/DE/---
page: http://de.libreoffice.org/home/ and http://de.libreoffice.org/product/
picture: yes, screenshot localized BUT beta-release
linkable: NO
link status: N/A


---/NL/---
page: http://nl.libreoffice.org/functies/
picture: yes, screenshot localized and up-to-date
linkable: NO
link status: N/A


---/IT/---
page: http://it.libreoffice.org/
picture: yes, animated screenshots NON localized and up-to-date
linkable: yes to http://it.libreoffice.org/download
link status: OK


If I can help on the FR one to update the screenshot and the link, 
please let me know.




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Re: [libreoffice-website] Hover-menu-popup for the main menu?

2011-02-06 Thread klaus-jürgen weghorn ol

Hi Ivan, *,
Am 06.02.2011 04:41, schrieb Ivan M.:

Hi Christian,

On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 3:41 AM, Christian Lohmaier
lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com  wrote:

Hi Ivan,

On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Ivan M.iv...@patentpending.co.nz  wrote:

[...]
I have made a basic horizontal submenu
on hover (with jQuery for animations - but it works without JS too)
demonstration at [1].


You forgot to actually include that footnote/the actual link :-)


Sorry, late night :)
Here's the link:
[1] http://patentpending.co.nz/libreoffice/jquery/index.html


I, personally, don't like such hover submenus.
If I'm e.g. on the Get help-page and I will go to the 
Accesibility-page I won't get it by mouse-coordination in three of 
four times I tried it.  I lost the submenu every time if I don't go 
exactly down and right but go in diagonal. (I work with the touchpad on 
my notebook.)


It seems to be that I have problems with eye-hand-coordination. ;-)

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Inviting a new web designer to work with us (was: LibO website dev..)

2011-02-06 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-)

Just to add my 2 cents:

+1 for collaboration over one-time 'donation'.

Moreover, after the recent threads, I think that the Marketing, Design
and SC people should have a strong influence in shaping the content
that goes on the libreoffice.org site, so that it fits in with their
visions.

For my part, I'll be happy to contribute to the site pages, working to
a collaboratively-established specification as regards IA, what's
said, length of text, etc.

Personally, I'll be holding off from any further work on the site
pages until there's a clear consensus on what's to be done.

It's really time for all of us to stop pulling in different directions
and to work together as a team.

David Nelson

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Inviting a new web designer to work with us (was: LibO website dev..)

2011-02-06 Thread David Nelson
http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2011-02-06/

:-D

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Hover-menu-popup for the main menu?

2011-02-06 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Ivan, *,

On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 4:41 AM, Ivan M. iv...@patentpending.co.nz wrote:

 [1] http://patentpending.co.nz/libreoffice/jquery/index.html

Hmm - the interesting variant is missing, i.e. the case when there
is already a second-level menu :-)

Or does that proposal imply that the second-menu navbar will no longer
be shown permanently?

One usability issue with a horizontally spread hover-menu is that you
cannot move diagonally, since the menu will collapse before you reach
the goal, i.e. start over Home, move to the right to Features → hover
menu is shown, move diagonally to the writer item → chances are that
you will hover over download first, and thus the menu disappears →
frustrated user. The user has to go down to the second level menu
first, then can move left/right

ciao
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Re: [libreoffice-website] SPAM

2011-02-06 Thread drew
On Sun, 2011-02-06 at 08:02 +0300, Sophie Gautier wrote:
 Hi Drew,
 On 06/02/2011 05:12, drew wrote:
  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Pain_Management_Nursing_Jobs
 
 Thanks for the report.
 I'm taking care of deleting the spam every day, morning and evening my 
 time, so you may found some of them during your day time, but at the end 
 of our day, the wiki should be clean ;-)
 
 Kind regards
Hi Sophie

Thanks - I figured you (or someone) might be doing that, because I don't
see that much. It's amazing isn't it

The micro-blog I setup, same deal, not daily but as it goes along and
gets more active so do the spammer's. I would be surprised if the TDF
blog is not getting some now.

IMO You really ought to find a second person to help with that, maybe in
a time zone with an 8+ hour shift. 

From my experience the key seems to be slapping them down quickly, which
means before any search engine can pick up their links, 'they' seem to
know which sites move quickly enough and which do not and start to
concentrate on the ones that don't.

Clayton at OO.o was battling with them on the wiki constantly also - he
always needed to bring someone else in to help IMO cause if you get them
off before the links ae crawled they will start to go away..well, maybe
the is just wishful hoping.

Maybe a SPAM template - so that anyone could add that (this close to the
way the forum does it) and let people know about it. That way the
person(s) that will actually do the deletes can just do a quick search
for the SPAM flag, makes their life easier I think.

Thanks again

Drew


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Re: [libreoffice-website] [Silverstripe] some missing links and beta-release screenshots

2011-02-06 Thread Jean-Baptiste Faure
Le 06/02/2011 11:40, gilles a écrit :
 Hi all,
 rapidly checking some NL main pages to see what is done with
 screenshots and links:

 ---/FR/---
 page: http://fr.libreoffice.org/libreoffice/
 picture: yes, screenshot localized BUT Beta-release
 linkable: Yes, to
 http://fr.libreoffice.org/telechargement-de-libreoffice/
 link status: KO, white page with:

 The requested page could not be found.
Hi Gilles,

Oups ! ;-) I changed the download FR page without updating the link
toward the old page.

Corrected now: new screenshot and updated link.

Thanks.

Have a nice day.
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Inviting a new web designer to work with us

2011-02-06 Thread Michael Wheatland

On 06/02/11 20:29, David Nelson wrote:

http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2011-02-06/

:-D

David Nelson


:)

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: This Connection is Untrusted... (I know, I know, but...)

2011-02-06 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

emarkay wrote on 2011-02-06 04.29:

Oh, sorry, the basic URL in question is:https://bugs.freedesktop.org/


*.documentfoundation.org and *.libreoffice.org have StartSSL 
certificates that should work in all major browsers, including Firefox, 
Internet Explorer, Safari and a few others.


*.freedesktop.org IMHO uses a CAcert Certificate. We, i.e. the TDF admin 
team, do not administer *.freedesktop.org, so I unfortunately cannot 
help with the certificate there. I know that requests have been sent to 
their site admins, but I don't know if/when they will be reacted to.


Hope that helps a bit.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] wiki.libreoffice.org

2011-02-06 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Sophie Gautier wrote on 2011-02-06 06.15:

Florian asked Manuel Schneider to help for the migration into native
language domains for the wiki. We should have xx.libreoffice.wiki.org
(or something like that) where xx is a language code. Just like in
wikipedia.


indeed. Manuel proposed to wait until MediaWiki 1.17 is released and is 
in the public for a few days, and then use this as a basis to start. So, 
stay tuned, shouldn't take too long anymore. :-)


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Re: [libreoffice-website] CAPTCHA to subscribe to the wiki?

2011-02-06 Thread drew
On Sun, 2011-02-06 at 13:47 +0100, Volker Merschmann wrote:
 Hi,
 
 2011/2/6 Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org:
  Michael Wheatland wrote on 2011-02-06 13.16:
 
  reCaptcha has good accessibility access as it also allows for the
  generated passcode to be read aloud via audio.
  http://www.google.com/recaptcha
 
  Does anyone have any issue with implementing reCaptcha?
 
  Manuel, do you know of any goot Captcha software and other measurements to
  protect from spamming? Seems we're suffering from spam, although e-mail
  verification is mandatory before editing pages.
 
 I remember that wiki.services.openoffice.org also got it's Captcha
 last year when the spam got to mouch.
 Maybe we can look over there and see what Clayton installed.
 It did not solve the problem to zero but to a manageable number.

That's quite right - it will NOT drive it to zero, but in reality it
works better on wiki then on forum as it seemd the human spamers tend to
concentrate on forums/blogs and less so on wikis. 

 
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Hover-menu-popup for the main menu?

2011-02-06 Thread Bernhard Dippold

Hi Christian, Ivan, all

Christian Lohmaier schrieb:

Hi Ivan, *,

On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 4:41 AM, Ivan M.iv...@patentpending.co.nz  wrote:


[1] http://patentpending.co.nz/libreoffice/jquery/index.html


Hmm - the interesting variant is missing, i.e. the case when there
is already a second-level menu :-)


Right - I'd like to see this too
(perhaps an even more light green for the hover menu?)

And would it be possible to have a regular font for the top level menu 
when you're on a second level page (still open question on the actual 
design)?


Or does that proposal imply that the second-menu navbar will no longer
be shown permanently?


On second level pages it should be shown IMHO.


One usability issue with a horizontally spread hover-menu is that you
cannot move diagonally, since the menu will collapse before you reach
the goal, i.e. start over Home, move to the right to Features → hover
menu is shown, move diagonally to the writer item → chances are that
you will hover over download first, and thus the menu disappears →
frustrated user. The user has to go down to the second level menu
first, then can move left/right


Perhaps reaction time of the hover menu might become slower (especially 
after changes in direction)?


Don't know how mighty the code is...

Best regards

Bernhard


ciao
Christian




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Re: [libreoffice-website] CAPTCHA to subscribe to the wiki?

2011-02-06 Thread drew
On Sun, 2011-02-06 at 13:47 +0100, Volker Merschmann wrote:
 Hi,
 
 2011/2/6 Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org:
  Michael Wheatland wrote on 2011-02-06 13.16:
 
  reCaptcha has good accessibility access as it also allows for the
  generated passcode to be read aloud via audio.
  http://www.google.com/recaptcha
 
  Does anyone have any issue with implementing reCaptcha?
 
  Manuel, do you know of any goot Captcha software and other measurements to
  protect from spamming? Seems we're suffering from spam, although e-mail
  verification is mandatory before editing pages.
 
 I remember that wiki.services.openoffice.org also got it's Captcha
 last year when the spam got to mouch.
 Maybe we can look over there and see what Clayton installed.
 It did not solve the problem to zero but to a manageable number.
 

One more piece of information here - there is a new trend i spam, it is
showing up on lots of forums and I believe in this case wikis also and
that is to only register an account with the service (forum/wik) when
the profile for that service allows a URL for your personal website, and
then to start using Twitter to point to your personal profile page on
that site - this one is a real pain and OOoForum for instance has been
hit hard by it. 

It is fairly new, last couple of years, and I don't really know how it
is working for their goal, to get the link into the search engines, but
since it is rising perhaps it works..anyway, just to let you know.

//drew


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Re: [libreoffice-website] CAPTCHA to subscribe to the wiki?

2011-02-06 Thread Karl-Heinz Gödderz
Hi,


Am 06.02.2011 14:28, schrieb drew:
 On Sun, 2011-02-06 at 14:13 +0100, Volker Merschmann wrote:
 I made a dig in my mailarchive and found at that at OOo reCaptcha is
 used in combination with a Bad-behaviour-script
 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Bad_Behavior 
 Excellent - I was just abut to send an email to Clayton to ask.

 I agree with Sophie that these Captcha can be a pain, but unfortunately
 there is really no way around it, 
for this, we should *explain* this on the page with the captch if
possible, to show people we are interested in their support/backup but
we need to save us from spam. then everyone could accept it.

Karl-Heinz

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Re: [libreoffice-website] [Silverstripe] some missing links and beta-release screenshots

2011-02-06 Thread gilles

Le 06/02/2011 13:12, Jean-Baptiste Faure a écrit :

Le 06/02/2011 11:40, gilles a écrit :
   

Hi all,
rapidly checking some NL main pages to see what is done with
screenshots and links:

---/FR/---
page: http://fr.libreoffice.org/libreoffice/
picture: yes, screenshot localized BUT Beta-release
linkable: Yes, to
http://fr.libreoffice.org/telechargement-de-libreoffice/
link status: KO, white page with:

The requested page could not be found.
 

Hi Gilles,

Oups ! ;-) I changed the download FR page without updating the link
toward the old page.

Corrected now: new screenshot and updated link.

Thanks.

Have a nice day.
JBF
   

Thanks to both of you, old chaps! :-)


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Re: [libreoffice-website] CAPTCHA to subscribe to the wiki?

2011-02-06 Thread Manuel Schneider
Not right now, my computer just died so I don't have my SSH private key 
at hand.


Am 06.02.2011 15:08, schrieb Florian Effenberger:

Can you install it? :-)

Manuel Schneider wrote on 2011-02-06 15.08:

We've been using reCaptcha in the past, it works fine.




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Re: [libreoffice-website] CAPTCHA to subscribe to the wiki?

2011-02-06 Thread Manuel Schneider

We've been using reCaptcha in the past, it works fine.

/Manuel

Am 06.02.2011 13:24, schrieb Florian Effenberger:

Hi,

Michael Wheatland wrote on 2011-02-06 13.16:

reCaptcha has good accessibility access as it also allows for the
generated passcode to be read aloud via audio.
http://www.google.com/recaptcha

Does anyone have any issue with implementing reCaptcha?


Manuel, do you know of any goot Captcha software and other measurements
to protect from spamming? Seems we're suffering from spam, although
e-mail verification is mandatory before editing pages.

Thanks,
Florian



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[libreoffice-website] Twitter widget not working on libreoffice.org home page?

2011-02-06 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-)

Did anyone notice that the Twitter widget has stopped working on the
libreoffice.org home page?

David Nelson

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[libreoffice-website] Help : why all my screenshot are gone ?

2011-02-06 Thread Jean-Baptiste Faure
Hi,

All screenshots of this page are gone :
http://fr.libreoffice.org/telecharger/top10/
Does somebody know why ?

It seems that all images have been moved to another location without
notice. Now all links are broken. :-(

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Hover-menu-popup for the main menu?

2011-02-06 Thread Sergios T.S.(aka linuxman)

Στις 06/02/2011 12:59 μμ, ο/η Christian Lohmaier έγραψε:

Hi Ivan, *,

On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 4:41 AM, Ivan M.iv...@patentpending.co.nz  wrote:

[1] http://patentpending.co.nz/libreoffice/jquery/index.html

Hmm - the interesting variant is missing, i.e. the case when there
is already a second-level menu :-)

Or does that proposal imply that the second-menu navbar will no longer
be shown permanently?

One usability issue with a horizontally spread hover-menu is that you
cannot move diagonally, since the menu will collapse before you reach
the goal, i.e. start over Home, move to the right to Features → hover
menu is shown, move diagonally to the writer item → chances are that
you will hover over download first, and thus the menu disappears →
frustrated user. The user has to go down to the second level menu
first, then can move left/right

ciao
Christian

Hi Christian  is possible this menu ? Is nice . ;-)

But my problem is not the menu but the *colorbox is the name of the 
specific javascript-popup*  , I can't find the way to use it .

Can tell me please some steps to make it .

Thank you
Best Regards
Sergios

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Help : why all my screenshot are gone ?

2011-02-06 Thread Sophie Gautier

Hi all,
On 06/02/2011 18:27, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote:

Hi,

All screenshots of this page are gone :
http://fr.libreoffice.org/telecharger/top10/
Does somebody know why ?


oup, I don't know, sorry :(


It seems that all images have been moved to another location without
notice. Now all links are broken. :-(


At least, it would be great to explain why it has been done, so we could 
revert it or move the links without being exposed to another breakage.


Kind regards
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Help : why all my screenshot are gone ?

2011-02-06 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi David,

On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 10:10 PM, David Nelson comme...@traduction.biz wrote:
 Hi, :-)

 In the attached screenshot from the English site, what do the
 broken-link icons mean?

 [1] 
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/8/8b/Broken-links-screenshot.png

These do now reflect the broken-links-report, that however generates
false positives. I assume (but I didn't check), that it gets confused
by irc-Links, so don't put too much attention into it...

It is just a first step in making fixing the broken links report a
little easier for me.

ciao
Christian

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[libreoffice-website] All Pages type .

2011-02-06 Thread Sergey Tsabolov ( aka linuxman )

Hi to All .
Now I'am connected to admin section to change some pages and I see all 
our pages have change the Page type to Widget Page .
I not set it to Widget Page , and I remeber is like normal page all only 
the download page have Page type download type , no one have the widget 
page .

Any one have the same problem ?

Regards

Sergios

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