Re: [libreoffice-website] Idea: LibreOffice Mail Attachment Service

2011-03-20 Thread Rimas Kudelis

2011.03.20 17:48, Christian Lohmaier rašė:
It has been decided that it will be done, and Alex is working on 
implementing it :-)


Just FYI: such thing is already implemented for RoundCube's mailing 
lists. All attachments posted to those lists are stored on 
http://detached.gigo.com/ instead, and only the links to those 
attachments are provided in mail footer, like this:



--- 8< --- detachments --- 8< ---
The following attachments have been detached and are available for viewing.
http://detached.gigo.com/rc/RS/pZUugGaU/labels.inc
Only click these links if you trust the sender, as well as this message.
--- 8< --- detachments --- 8< ---

You may want to contact gigo.com's administrator – perhaps he would be 
willing to share his creation and save LibO from reinventing the wheel.


regards,
Rimas


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Re: [libreoffice-website] [wiki] menubars

2011-03-20 Thread ol klaus-jürgen weghorn

Hi Sophie, @,
Am 17.03.2011 20:55, schrieb ol klaus-jürgen weghorn:

Hi all,
Am 13.03.2011 18:31, schrieb klaus-jürgen weghorn ol:

Hi all,
I will start some new discussions about our wiki.
The first:
On German-discuss-ml there were some discussions that it is not easy for
newbies to find the right information on the localized pages of the
wiki. The left sidebar won't give the right information for the
localized teams.

Christian Kühl has made a menubar for the German part of the wiki pages
and therefor several templates to get a unique menubar. See e.g [1].
It should give the wikipages some structure especially for the newbies.
He made a main template [2] and several sub templates e.g. [3] [4].

On the German-ml there is a kind of consense to use it.
What do you think to make it for all wiki pages?


Now I have made a page [1] in which all the menus are displayed.
The page shows the structure of the templates and a description of
localizing the templates.

Read, comment and change it.


Many comments at all ;-)



The submenus aren't developped yet. The most are placeholders.
We can discuss about the points we want to have in the (sub)menus.


Now I have made the submenus as I thought they will be right. [1]

What is the next step with the menus: (mainly @Sophie)
1 Should we vote if we want to use them? Then I will start the voting in 
a extra e-mail.

or
2 Is it a decision of the sc?
or
3 Should we even use it? Then I will start to build them in some pages.



[1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Wiki_menu



Grüße
k-j

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Idea: LibreOffice Mail Attachment Service

2011-03-20 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Michael, *,

On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Michael Münch  wrote:
> On Saturday 05 March 2011 22:27:02 Christoph Noack wrote:
>>
>> during the OOo times it was quite common for me to "throw in ideas" :-)
>> Today, I'd like to do this by addressing a topic related to handling of
>> mail attachments on our mailing lists. Personally, I think this could be
>> beneficial for almost everyone getting in touch with our project.
>
> Any news about this one?

It has been decided that it will be done, and Alex is working on
implementing it :-)

> Especially if it will be modular so that it can be used outside of the
> libreoffice scope.

The plan is to implement it using pymime (mailparsing, etc) and django
(providing a management-UI for deleting attachments) & hook it up to
silverstripe to reuse the existing logins for authentication.

pymime is already used for pre-list-processing (i.e. that is the tool
that adds the Archived-At header for mail-archive.com and also adds
the footer (and does necessary charset conversions and strips html).
currenly used version is at https://github.com/tdf/pymime - when it is
rewritten to manage the attachments, it will be available from there
once its done.

> Something like different backends for plain file storage,
> different DMS, mediawiki, ...

Oh, it's rather kept simple, as it explicitly is not for permanent
storage, etc. I don't know what DMS you have in mind, but especially
it won't store the files in mediawiki - that would rather defeat the
purpose

> Have there been any discussions about the implementation, perhaps on other
> lists?

No, there were only a few private mails - you didn't miss anything :-)

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Idea: LibreOffice Mail Attachment Service

2011-03-20 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Paulo, Hi Michael!

Am Freitag, den 18.03.2011, 13:01 -0300 schrieb Paulo de Souza Lima:
> 2011/3/18 Michael Münch 
...

> > Have there been any discussions about the implementation, perhaps on other
> > lists?

Michael, I know that some admins started to ideate about how to
implement such a service. Once I know more, I'll share the news ...
...

> What about services like Dropbox? Dropbox has a public folder where tou can
> put a file and get a public URL for it. For temporary files, It works very
> fine. And you still have version control, backup, access from anywhere,
> uploads just putting the file in your computer's public local folder (and
> it's automaticaly uploaded to the web), just to tell some advantages...
> 
> I think it's easier than set up a service in a site somewhere, huh?

It is easier, and it would work for some of the use cases - but the main
intention was to keep the functionality of the mail client (e.g. for
less experienced users asking for help on the support mailing lists).

Here is the User Story "Support Mail" [1]:
Timothy is a new user of LibreOffice and questions concerning
its use arise. Also new to the idea of mailing lists, he asks a
question there and quickly adds a document to his mail. Without
adding the file to the wiki or other document sharing services,
the people on the mailing list are able to handle this request
immediately. They can click on the link in the request mail and
download the document. This even works for people accessing the
mailing lists via mail archives.

Given the idea, I think such a service would still serve some more
people ... dropbox being an option for other teams (my personal opinion,
of course).

Cheers,
Christoph

[1]
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:ChristophNoack/LibreOffice_Mail_Attachment_Service#User_Stories


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[libreoffice-website] Re: QA and TCM - Litmus and next RC

2011-03-20 Thread Rimas Kudelis

2011.03.20 11:35, Volker Heggemann rašė:

Hello all,

Am 20.03.2011 09:27, schrieb Rimas Kudelis:

2011.03.20 10:17, Volker Heggemann rašė:

Hi all,

is it allowed and desired to add a new test run to litmus? What
happened if I clone the test runs from 3.3.1 RC to 3.3.2 RC?
Will there be a ID mismatch or will this work?

BTW.: What about putting links into testcases? Is this possible
 meanwhile?



Try both.

I think it's about time we should start storing the list of
problems we have on a wiki page, cause it's hard to remember what
those problems are after a few weeks of not touching Litmus...
:)

Do we have a wiki page dedicated to TCM? I think those bugs
should be listed in it.


We got this:

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Litmus

with localized pages in tree.

Is that what you mean?
If we create a new page in this tree, all can put their comments 
there. May we only make a intl. (english) side?


Before we do this, the question that we have to answer is: Who will 
read this issues/feature requests and be able to fix that? As i saw 
the error last time i found a hint to Perl. So is there someone 
outside there know's this?


Maybe, maybe not. My point is that documenting bugs in this discussion 
is not very effective. It would be better to have them all listed in a 
single easily findable place on our wiki. :)


Rimas

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[libreoffice-website] Re: QA and TCM - Litmus and next RC

2011-03-20 Thread Jean-Baptiste Faure
Le 20/03/2011 09:17, Volker Heggemann a écrit :
> Hi all,
>
> is it allowed and desired to add a new test run to litmus?
> What happened if I clone the test runs from 3.3.1 RC to 3.3.2 RC?
> Will there be a ID mismatch or will this work?
I think it will work if we clone EN tests then clone 3.3.2 EN tests to
localized tests.
I can do that.
>
> BTW.: What about putting links into testcases? Is this possible
> meanwhile?
>
I think the problem is there. I was waiting a ready to go for this
feature because we need it to do tests with reference documents. If
nothing has been changed on Litmus, we will have the same bug as before.

Best regards
JBF

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[libreoffice-website] Re: QA and TCM - Litmus and next RC

2011-03-20 Thread Rimas Kudelis

2011.03.20 10:17, Volker Heggemann rašė:

Hi all,

is it allowed and desired to add a new test run to litmus?
What happened if I clone the test runs from 3.3.1 RC to 3.3.2 RC?
Will there be a ID mismatch or will this work?

BTW.: What about putting links into testcases? Is this possible 
meanwhile?



Try both.

I think it's about time we should start storing the list of problems we 
have on a wiki page, cause it's hard to remember what those problems are 
after a few weeks of not touching Litmus... :)


Do we have a wiki page dedicated to TCM? I think those bugs should be 
listed in it.


Rimas


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