Re: [libreoffice-website] Site down?

2015-02-05 Thread Stefan Weigel

Hi,

Am 05.02.2015 um 12:06 schrieb Florian Effenberger:

 the site is up and running for me, just checked. Anyone else
 experiencing issues?

I was not able to reach libreoffice.org before an hour or two. Now
it´s ok.

Stefan


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Re: [libreoffice-website] website is not available

2014-12-21 Thread Stefan Weigel

Am 20.12.2014 um 11:40 schrieb Florian Effenberger:

 website seems to be up again.

...seems to be down again.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Cleaning of the wiki and language communities

2013-12-31 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi,

Am 30.12.2013 18:52, schrieb Wojciech Zasadni:
 The misunderstanding is due to the fact that the page should not be located 
 at 
 the main namespace if it's not a translation of an english page. 

very true ;-)

 guidelines from:
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Multilingual_Wiki

+1

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[libreoffice-website] @admins: conference 2012 slides no longer available?

2013-04-26 Thread Stefan Weigel
@website admins: FYI

http://www.mail-archive.com/conference@global.libreoffice.org/msg00226.html

tnx.

:-)

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Promoting the LibreOffice Conference on the LibreOffice website

2012-09-10 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi Christian,

Am 10.09.2012 13:05, schrieb Christian Lohmaier:

 So why not just accentuate a text like:
 
  Come to Berlin and meet the LibreOffice Community at LibreOffice
  Conference October 17-19, 2012.

 Because this is text, and text has to be translated (at least to a
 bigger extent than a logo) - and with text you have the problem of
 different fonts installed, i.e. different look/layout. Positioning
 real text next to a logo and make it look nice is harder than putting
 an image with prerendered text on the site.

Somehow, I don´t understand this. What´s wrong about text? We do
have lots of text on the site. ;-) Ah, now I see. :-)

You are talking about something that appears on every page of the
site on the top. I was thinking of some element in the body of the
*home*page of the site. Maybe, an additional paragraph after You,
too, can get involved!

What do you think about this:

http://www7.pic-upload.de/10.09.12/71fgql83crup.png

Servus,
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Promoting the LibreOffice Conference on the LibreOffice website

2012-09-09 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi again,

Am 06.09.2012 21:58, schrieb Stefan Weigel:

 I would like to propose that the LibreOffice website and
 language subsites promote the LibreOffice Conference 
 (http://conference.libreoffice.org/). Perhaps a nice banner on
 the top?
 
 Could someone of the website managers take care of this?

Meanwhile Alexander Wilms has proposed these versions of the
conference logo as a banner.

http://ubuntuone.com/1mJnKsiNeq5YKiNHBEDcSC

Do you website guys think, you can use this?

Basically, it´s just the conference logo with no specific
promotional message, though. The intention is to draw the attention
of our website visitors to the LibreOffice conference and to
motivate them to register for the conference. IMO, this can be done
by a banner, but it also can be done by some other eye-catchy
message on the homepages of the websites as well.

So why not just accentuate a text like:

Come to Berlin and meet the LibreOffice Community at LibreOffice
Conference October 17-19, 2012.

with a link to: http://conference.libreoffice.org/

Stefan

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Promoting the LibreOffice Conference on the LibreOffice website

2012-09-06 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi Christian,

 I would like to propose that the LibreOffice website and
 language subsites promote the LibreOffice Conference 
 (http://conference.libreoffice.org/). Perhaps a nice banner on
 the top?
 
 Could someone of the website managers take care of this?
 
 Send Link to the banner please.

I am afraid, there is no banner yet. My appeal also implied the
creation of a banner or the moderation of creating one. ;-)

I have notified des...@global.libreoffice.org

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Re: [libreoffice-website] confere...@global.libreoffice.org

2012-07-10 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi,

Am 09.07.2012 17:16, schrieb Florian Effenberger:

 Can someone add the subscription information of this list to our
 website?

I finally succeeded editing the page in the CMS
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/#conference

:-)
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Re: [libreoffice-website] confere...@global.libreoffice.org

2012-07-09 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi,

Am 09.07.2012 17:16, schrieb Florian Effenberger:

 we have just created confere...@global.libreoffice.org as a public
 discussion and announcement list for conference participants.
 
 Can someone add the subscription information of this list to our
 website?

I am trying. But I am having some trouble with the CMS. It´s very,
very, very, very slow and sometimes does real weird things. I try to
figure out, whether it´s my dullness or some technical issue.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: LiboCon.org website

2012-06-20 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hallo Andreas,

Am 20.06.2012 18:14, schrieb Andreas Mantke:

 what should be done with the formatting of the site / content of 
 conference.libreoffice.org?

There was an official announcement on the german mailing lists
earlier this day:

 Alle Details zum Call for Papers stehen ab sofort auf der
 Konferenzwebseite bereit.

All details about the CfP should be accessible at
http://conference.libreoffice.org *now*. ;-)

Gruß

Stefan

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: LiboCon.org website

2012-06-20 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi,

Am 20.06.2012 18:53, schrieb Andreas Mantke:

 All details about the CfP should be accessible at
 http://conference.libreoffice.org *now*. ;-)

 I'm currently working on that

Good to read. :-)

 but I'm only a volunteer and could that
 in my spare time.

Yes. We (I) know. Thanks for your effort! Didn´t want to complain,
just wanted to give the hint, that the press release already points
to the site.

 Any help would be appreciated ;-)

Indeed.

Cheers,
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Bug Submission Assistant unusable in multiple browsers

2012-02-18 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi,

Am 18.02.2012 05:16, schrieb Kal Sze (@k_sze):

 The Bug Submission Assistant doesn't seem to work in any of Internet
 Explorer 8, Google Chrome 17.0.963.56, or Mozilla Firefox 10.0.2 for Windows
 (32-bit).
 
 I go to  https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/
 https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/  and nothing seems to happen after
 most of the page has loaded. The right side (where I expect to see textboxes
 to allow me to input username and password) remains completely blank. If I
 hover the mouse over the actual bug reporting area (which says Sign in,
 Component, Subcomponent, etc., below the navigation bar), the cursor
 changes to the arrow-with-a-small-hourglass and it's stuck like that for all
 eternity.

I do confirm this problem for Firefox 10.0.1 on Ubuntu 11.10.

Stefan

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Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice xmas

2011-12-15 Thread Stefan Weigel
Am 15.12.2011 13:28, schrieb Christian Lohmaier:

 So tell me what you think (if you don't like it, don't forget to
 mention what can be done to improve the situation. Just stating I
 hate it won't really help :-))

:-)

ilikeit

Stefan


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Re: [libreoffice-website] web site download install type error

2011-11-11 Thread Stefan Weigel
Am 11.11.2011 01:25, schrieb webmaster for Kracked Press Productions:

 I noticed today, while working with a 32-bit DEB based server,
 that when I go to the download page for 3.4.4, the page chooses
 32-bit RPM instead of the 32-bit DEB version.  It happened with
 Ubuntu 11.04 and Mint 11.

This usually happens, when your browser does not transfer sufficient
information to clearly identify your system. With Ubuntu and
Firefox, this is the case.

If it´s not clear whether you need DEB or RPM the website defaults
to DEB.

Please read the hint on the download page:

 (When you visit this page, we try to detect your system, and
 offer you the right download automatically, but we may not
 succeed in all cases.)

Check yourself, what a web server can find out about your system:

http://www.iwebtool.com/browser_details

In your case, can you find any hint in this result, that tells,
whether you are using a DEB or RPM based system?

Stefan


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Re: [libreoffice-website] web site download install type error

2011-11-11 Thread Stefan Weigel
Am 11.11.2011 09:38, schrieb Stefan Weigel:

 If it´s not clear whether you need DEB or RPM the website defaults
 to DEB.

Sorry, this must read:

If it´s not clear whether you need DEB or RPM the website defaults
to RPM.

Stefan

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[libreoffice-website] Proposal for a little change on http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/qa-testers/

2011-10-17 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi,

we do have a page for developers
(http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/) and another
page for QA people
(http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/qa-testers/).

On both the reader is invited to join the developers mailing list
(http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice).

My suggestion is, from the QA page to point to the QA list
(http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa)
rather than the developers list.

Regards,

Stefan

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Issue with new bug reporting assistant

2011-09-26 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi,

Am 25.09.2011 15:58, schrieb Stefan Weigel:

 I just noticed that when I open
 http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/, Firefox shows the message
 'This connection isn't trusted'.
 
 I just checked, and the site shows the right certificate for me.
 
 I started an hour ago, and was asked to add an exception..
 
 When I was asked to add an exception yesterday, I didn´t do that.
 Nevertheless, the problem disappeared, when I checked again later.
 Maybe some invalid stuff in some cache somewhere?

Today again, I got the message about an invalid certificate:

http://www7.pic-upload.de/26.09.11/col2376lyemk.png

After relaoding the page, it was fine again. Don´t know what´s going
on. :-/

Stefan.
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Issue with new bug reporting assistant

2011-09-26 Thread Stefan Weigel
Am 26.09.2011 14:28, schrieb Florian Effenberger:

 http://www7.pic-upload.de/26.09.11/col2376lyemk.png

 After relaoding the page, it was fine again. Don´t know what´s going
 on. :-/

 Do you only experience this on Firefox and Linux?

Firefox and Linux is the only car I am driving at the moment.

Stefan

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Issue with new bug reporting assistant

2011-09-25 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi Alex,

Am 24.09.2011 17:34, schrieb Alexander Wilms:
 I just noticed that when I open
 http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/, Firefox shows the message
 'This connection isn't trusted'.

Please check again. Do you still get this warning?

I had the same experience yesterday. But now it´s fine. I quess it
was a temporary problem or has been fixed meanwhile.

Stefan

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Issue with new bug reporting assistant

2011-09-25 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi,

 I just noticed that when I open
 http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/, Firefox shows the message
 'This connection isn't trusted'.

 I just checked, and the site shows the right certificate for me.

 I started an hour ago, and was asked to add an exception..

When I was asked to add an exception yesterday, I didn´t do that.
Nevertheless, the problem disappeared, when I checked again later.
Maybe some invalid stuff in some cache somewhere?

Stefan
:-)


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Power converters for the LiboConf

2011-08-23 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi,

Am 23.08.2011 14:53, schrieb Italo Vignoli:

 In France, plugs are either Type E or Type F, and power is 220 volts
 as in all continental Europe.

nitpickingAccording to IEC 60038
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEC_60038) it´s 230 volts./nitpicking

;-)

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Is it Data Pilot or DataPilot ??? spelling

2011-06-05 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi,

Am 05.06.2011 14:23, schrieb Andras Timar:

 It is DataPilot, however it has been just renamed to Pivot Table in
 3.4 so it's better to use Pivot Table for end users.

Just for your interest: Some localisations still stick to DataPilot.

And it´s unclear, if Pivot Table is an unauthorized use a
Microsoft trademark.

More in this thread:
http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/l10n/msg02388.html

Stefan

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Membership: site/form/mailing list

2011-03-22 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi Christian,

Am 22.03.2011 21:20, schrieb Erich Christian:

 A scetch is to be found here
 http://pumbaa.documentfoundation.org:7780/get-involved/application

The title Application for TDF Membership is not quite correct.
Nobody can become a *member* of the TDF.

We are talking about becoming a member of the community, which is
organized by the foundation, rather than becoming a member of the
foudation itself. The latter is not possible by law. ;-)

I propose the title: Application for TDF Community Membership

Cheers,
Stefan


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Membership: site/form/mailing list

2011-03-22 Thread Stefan Weigel
Am 22.03.2011 21:54, schrieb Stefan Weigel:

 Hi Christian,

autsch! Sorry, Erich.


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Re: [libreoffice-website] font color in donation meter

2011-02-21 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi,

cool!

Am 21.02.2011 14:47, schrieb David Nelson:

 You're gonna
 get an awful lot of brownie points for this, Florian Effenberger.

Florian, I was tempted to ask you to share the brownies, until I
realized, that Brownie Points don´t mean that you get paid with
brownies.

:-D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brownie_points
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chocolate_brownie

Stefan

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Re: [libreoffice-website] wiki: pages to translate / mark outdated translations

2011-02-21 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi,

Am 21.02.2011 21:22, schrieb Michael:

 Would it not be more precise to say something like add {{OrigLang|}} to
 the original English page if a translation is desired?
...

 2) how do we handle updates on the english page
...

Please also consider the case, that a set of translated pages does
not necessarily origin from an English page. In some cases the
English page is a translation of a page that was introduced in a
some other language. In some cases the English page may not even
exist as a page with content, but be a placeholder for page hierarchy.

However the English page *always* is the one without language suffix
like /fr /de /ru and so on. And the English page *always* is the one
carrying {{OrigLang|}}, whereas all other language pages carry
{{Lang|}}.

Stefan



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Re: [libreoffice-website] donation barometer buggy?

2011-02-17 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi,

Am 17.02.2011 14:20, schrieb Stefan Weigel:

 every now and then, when I call up http://www.libreoffice.org, I get
 this:

 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Bildschirmfoto.png
 
 Very strange. I can´t reproduce it myself anymore.
 
 This morning I had this messy screen, now and then. Then I realized
 that it would be buggy whenever I start Firefox by somewhere
 clicking on http://www.libreoffice.org. And now...
 
 ...no bug anymore. :-/

Just for the records: Now again, I get this messy donation barometer.

See bug: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Donbarbug.png
after reload: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Donbarok.png

The screenshots contain debugging information of the WebDeveloper
Extension. Kind of conspicuous is this difference:

bug:
html  body  div#BgContainer  div#TopHeader  div#banner 
h2#countdown  a.banner1

after reload:
html  body  div#BgContainer  div#TopHeader  a.banner1 
div#banner  h2#countdown

What could be the reason for mixing up the order of the elements?

Stefan

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Swedish and Danish language missing on wiki

2011-02-15 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi Marc,

Am 15.02.2011 10:33, schrieb Marc Paré:

 Could someone add the Swedish (SE) and Danish (DK) languages to
 the wiki
 language bar?

 We would also need to add Norwegian (NO).

Done.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Swedish and Danish language missing on wiki

2011-02-15 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi Marc,

Am 15.02.2011 12:06, schrieb Marc Paré:

 could you remove the SE? It looks like there is no language SE.
 Could you also remove DK and add DA. Danish should be DA. i was
 working with a country code page rather than a language code page.

Ok, will do so in a minute. No problem.

(Strange, this kind of mistakes is so typically for *me*. It´s kind
of relieving to see others making such mistakes, too. :-D )

Stefan :-)

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: US marketing mailing list on website

2011-02-14 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi Marc,

Am 14.02.2011 04:39, schrieb Marc Paré:

 Le 2011-02-13 19:51, David Nelson a écrit :

 All the global lists are on the website, and all the local/regional
 lists are on the wiki because that list tends to be updated more
 often.

 Hmmm, if we are looking for members to join the US marketing team,
 which is one of the top priorities of the TDF and Italo, I don't
 think that leaving it off the website is a good idea. It adds
 confusion when they join the marketing team only to find that they
 should have joined the US marketing team. Can we have it show at
 least in the Marketing page of the LibreOffice website?

I don´t think, that this is a good idea. This would create the
impression, that LibreOffice is a global project with special focus
on North America. But we do not want to create such a wrong
impression. We are dedicated to all regions of the world basically
with the same devotion.

Therefore, I suggest to remove the pointer to the special US mailing
list.

IMO, there is nothing against a general pointer to a webpage or
wikipage with *all* regional/local contact points and mailing lists
for marketing.

Thanks,
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Re: [libreoffice-website] US marketing mailing list on website

2011-02-14 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi,

Am 15.02.2011 00:20, schrieb Bernhard Dippold:

 I want it to change to
 
 Primary points of contact and resources for our international
 marketing: the linkGlobal Marketing mailing list/link and our
 linkmarketing wiki pages/link. Local teams are mainly organized
 in their respective link to Internationalization
 pagenative-language group/link, for English spoken marketing
 activities in the USA and Canada a mailto: US-ListNorth American
 Marketing list/mailto has been established.

-1

We shouldn´t at all point to mailing lists directly via a mailto:
link without an explicit warning, that everything you post to public
mailing lists, including your e-mail address and other personal data
contained in your e-mail, will be publicly archived and cannot be
deleted.

http://go.mail-archive.com/-wv1x1a2tVHK2o7JFxEARjnl3Es=

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: countdown script

2011-02-12 Thread Stefan Weigel
Am 13.02.2011 03:37, schrieb Christian Lohmaier:

 IMHO it only makes sense to define the #of days via php/the templates
 and do more detailed timers in javascript on the client side.

I wonder how a PHP or Javascript would automatically determine the
missing money? Will there be an interface to the banking account?

:-D

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Re: [libreoffice-website] This Connection is Untrusted... (I know, I know, but...)

2011-02-05 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi Charles,

Am 05.02.2011 17:53, schrieb Charles Marcus:

 Some of the people on this list whop apparently represent TDF and
 LibO seem to have real attitude problems sometimes.
 
 I didn't make any claim, so have no facts to che3ck. Someone
 complained about *one* of the sites using an SSL cert that gave the
 'untrusted' warning that self-signed certs give, someone else asked
 about buying one, and I merely pointed out a free option.
 
 So, Christian, please refrain from criticizing someone when it is
 not only unnecessary but uncalled for.

You are misunderstanding the context. Please read the thread, before
posting to it. Please consider the rules for quoting on mailing lists.

Thank you.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] This Connection is Untrusted... (I know, I know, but...)

2011-02-05 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi Charles,

Am 05.02.2011 18:25, schrieb Charles Marcus:

 No, Stefan, I am not misunderstanding anything. Christian quoted and
 replied to *my* comment. I did read the thread

If so, why did you propose to get a certificate from StartSSL, just
after the main responsible person (Florian) stated in this thread,
that TDF and LibO both do have StartSSL certificates?

;-)

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Work on the Why? pages

2011-02-02 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi,

Am 02.02.2011 10:56, schrieb Narayan Aras:

 From: comme...@traduction.biz

 There's quite a bit more text in there. With someone's comment of
 text, text, text... still ringing in my ears, i feel I'd better
 explain my thinking a bit.
 
 :) Ok that someone was me, and I wrote all why pages originally.

Or was it me ? :-)
See: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/msg01599.html

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 18:57, Stefan Weigel
stefan.wei...@bildungskreis.org wrote:

 In general: IMO it´s too much text. I fear, a large majority of
 visitors will be deterred by this. Visitors won´t be so patient and
 interested, that they will sit down and read very long.
 
 We have to achieve, that one can tell in seconds that LO
 it as a great, free office suite, and that the visitor
 wants to use it or at least try it.
 
 At this point, certainly a short remark would be helpful, that LO is
 an improvement of the very popular OOo.

Also see: http://why.openoffice.org

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-website] Working with mailing lists

2011-02-01 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi,

Am 01.02.2011 10:50, schrieb Dr. Bernhard Dippold:

 With appropriate filters and threading in a modern mail client 
 (like Thunederbird) most of the advantages of a forum can be egalized by a
 mailing list.

Moreover, as a subscriber to mailing lists, you handle all the
messages through one single user interface (your mail client), even
when you take part in many different projects. Whereas a forum user
would have to visit several locations in the web in order to check
and see new messages, that are of interest.

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[libreoffice-website] Attention Wiki-Admins: Do NOT delete pages

2011-01-30 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi,

Wiki-Admins, please do *not* delete pages in the wiki, just because
they are marked with {{Delete|Reason}} without any further verification!

Thank you.

Reason: The template {{Delete|Reason}} could have been used by
mistake or even malicious.

If admins delete pages just because they carry the template
{{Delete|Reason}} and if they do not check and verify the
plausibility of the reason, then we could allow any user to delete
pages anyway.

How could an admin verify the deletion request? For example:

* The one who insertet the template {{Delete|Reason}}, is the only
author of the article; or

* It is obvious, that the page has no valuable content; or

* A reason has been given by private email or on the mailing list; or

* Deletion has consensus as a result of a discussion on a mailing
list; or

* ... and so on

Question: Is there any way to restore the following pages?

[[TDF/Next Decade Manifesto/de]]
[[QA/Testing/Manual Tests/de]]

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Attention Wiki-Admins: Do NOT delete pages

2011-01-30 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi again,

Am 30.01.2011 09:50, schrieb Stefan Weigel:

 Question: Is there any way to restore the following pages?
 
 [[TDF/Next Decade Manifesto/de]]
 [[QA/Testing/Manual Tests/de]]

Thanks to very quick reaction of Sophie, the two pages are back
again. :-)

Stefan


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[libreoffice-website] Styling of website menu broken

2011-01-29 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi,

FYI:

I just added another issue to
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/Development

In short, look at this:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/6/60/Bildschirmfoto-1.png

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Styling of website menu broken

2011-01-29 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi,

Am 29.01.2011 19:24, schrieb David Nelson:

 In short, look at this:
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/6/60/Bildschirmfoto-1.png
 
 Should we just rename Mailing List Interface as Nabble? For me it's
 not a very communicative name, but it's a quick and dirty fix for the
 problem...

We still would run into problems, whenever it comes to a line wrap
in the menu.

Also see:
http://go.mail-archive.com/K76jahCoRLmek7CwdtJY9JPSGA8=

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Re: [libreoffice-website] $SubsiteList in subsite

2011-01-29 Thread Stefan Weigel
Am 29.01.2011 20:51, schrieb Christian Lohmaier:

 However it seems to me, that using the function $SubsiteList in the
 source code does not work. It just displays $SubsiteList instead
 of listing the sites.

 You also have to use the SubsitePage page-type for the replacement to apply.

Thanks, Christian!

(DachtIchMirSchonSowas) :-)


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Thanks and Thoughts

2011-01-24 Thread Stefan Weigel
Servus David,

Am 25.01.2011 06:52, schrieb David Nelson:

 On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 06:00, Christoph Noack christ...@dogmatux.com wrote:

 Concerning the latter: no. Since I know that you also have to focus on
 several things at the same time. But I feel free to bother you again
 very soon, since it's still an issue :-) Okay?

 First of all, you're the only person to have raised issues with the
 site

This is not true. I have been raising issues since the very
beginning and all over the time the site has been developed. My
latest action was to summarize and add them to
[[Website/Development]] on the wiki.

Furthermore, I share Christoph´s concern about that someone for
example who finds himself on
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/instructions/ does not find the
download page. Since Christoph already called attention to this
issue, I didn´t feel any necessity to point this out again from my side.

The fact that Christoph was the first one to indicate some points
and others did not explicitly second his statements, does not mean
that Christoph is the only one, who stumbled over the issues.
Especially since Christoph is known as a long-time and experienced
UX expert in the project, I guess many people normally do not see
the need to boost his arguments.

 On the other hand, I'd be disappointed if what you want involves major
 interventions on the site's content, because an *awful* lot of work
 has gone into it, and it would be a pity if it was to turn out to be
 wasted.

The community ows you very much respect for what you have achieved
with the website. On the other hand, you asked for some weeks of no
intervention in order to create the site without disturbance. It´s
very natural, that after such a phase, issues may be raised, that
mean major interventions on the whole work.

 maybe
 we can clarify things during a website confcall. Let's talk about it
 by voice - which is sometimes a better means of communication than
 email. ;-)

Hm. Please consider that this is an international project and some
active members are not so well skilled with English as a foreign
language. For these people it is much easier to communicate by
reading and writing.

(For example, it takes me very long to phrase all this in English.
You wouldn´t have fun with me, when I took part in a conference call.)

 ;-)

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Feedback concerning the current website

2011-01-22 Thread Stefan Weigel
Servus all,

Am 22.01.2011 00:54, schrieb Christoph Noack:

 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/Development

I took the liberty to add six issues, that I already raised here on
the mailing list some weeks ago. ;-)

Stefan

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Re: [libreoffice-website] [Drupal] The road ahead and missed opportunities

2011-01-18 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi,

Am 18.01.2011 17:20, schrieb Charles Marcus:

 And no, they - meaning the SC - absolutely cannot claim ignorance,
 Michael was discussing their progress on the lists for a long time.

Maybe not members of the SC, but there are people that have been
answering on the mailing lists from the very beginning and further
on, that it would be wrong to beleive that there was any concrete
decision pro Drupal. It´s not correct to expect an apology for the
waste of time from anyone, if the people working on a Drupal
solution did not want to recognize this information.

Stefan.


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Redirects from national domains

2011-01-14 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi,

Am 14.01.2011 09:35, schrieb Florian Effenberger:

 Stefan Weigel wrote on 2011-01-13 22.47:

 BTW: I think it´s time now for the guys from gdsw.at to hand over
 libreoffice.at to the foundation (OOoDeV) or at least to redirect to
 de.libreoffice.org. What do you think?

 good idea. Do you have contacts to them?

No, not at all. All I remember is: During the very first SC
conference call I posted a question to the IRC about the usage of
libreoffice.at by gdsw.at. People in the conference call just said,
that these are nice guys, so nothing to worry about. ;-)

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Redirects from national domains

2011-01-14 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hallo Erich,

Am 14.01.2011 11:13, schrieb Erich Christian:

 BTW: I think it´s time now for the guys from gdsw.at to hand over
 libreoffice.at to the foundation (OOoDeV)

 Maybe they'll be more impressed by an official request, I've tried before:
 http://gds.tuwien.tel/

I already sent them another E-Mail in behalf of TDF/OOoDeV and asked
them to agree to transferring the domain to OOoDev.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Redirects from national domains

2011-01-13 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi Flo,

Am 13.01.2011 18:44, schrieb Florian Effenberger:
 Redirection is in place now ;)

BTW: I think it´s time now for the guys from gdsw.at to hand over
libreoffice.at to the foundation (OOoDeV) or at least to redirect to
de.libreoffice.org. What do you think?

Do you happen to know the domain holder of libreoffice.ch and
libreoffice.li?

See: https://www.nic.ch/reg/ds03/whois

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[libreoffice-website] Re: Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots

2011-01-08 Thread Stefan Weigel
Am 08.01.2011 19:58, schrieb Michael Wheatland:

 Do not use Screenshots taken from a programme running on MS Windows,
 when you are going to use these screenshots in a document, that´s
 supposed to be under a free license.

 Stefan
 
 Can you provide links to this discussion or the Microsoft policies
 that imply copyright protection for screenshots. I would love to read
 them myself.

I am afraid it´s german:

http://de.openoffice.org/servlets/BrowseList?listName=devfrom=1569535to=1569535count=49by=threadfirst=1windowSize=1000

http://de.openoffice.org/servlets/BrowseList?listName=devfrom=1559682to=1559682count=34by=threadfirst=1windowSize=1000

AFAIR there is no problem, that MS would not allow to use
screenshots for your own website or documentation. But the problem
is, that you are not allowed to publish your work under a free
licence, when it contains elements that belong to MS. MS claims that
window frames, title bars, and controls like the OK-Button are part
of the operating system, which means they are subject to the
copyright restrictions. These elements are not under a free licence.
You cannot use GPL, LGPL or CC or whatever free licence, if your
work contains non-free elements.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Release tasks for Website team

2011-01-03 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi,

Am 03.01.2011 16:27, schrieb Sophie Gautier:

 Installation instructions are a task for the documentation team. The
 complete installation instructions will be put on the wiki while the
 release notes will be on the website.

Thanks Sophie, for stressing this. There was a discussion the other
day, about whether the installation instructions should be moved
from the wiki to the website and be deleted in the wiki, which I
think is no good idea.

http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/msg00762.html

However, the majority of postings to the thread seemed to advocate
bringing the complete installation instructions to the website.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Review of progress on the libreoffice.org website and theme

2010-12-29 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi David,

Am 29.12.2010 11:21, schrieb David Nelson:

 And then I was reading Stefan Siegel in a thread on the docs list, and
 it sounds like he has rather different ideas about at least some of
 the content on the libreoffice.org website.

Well, it´s just my opinion. I do respect any other opinion.

My statement, you are referring to, is not new. It´s part of my
answer to your request from Dec 17.

http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/msg01599.html


 So, let me ask you the first question:
 
 a) Do I have broad consensus of permission from you for this January
 10 handover?

Yes from me. But you have been asking for feedback already on Dec 17.

My statement on the documentation list, you are referring to, was
initiated by your proposal to delete a wiki page, that I would
propose not to delete.

 b) Are you happy with the content I've developed (and am still
 continuing to develop)? Or am I going in a wrong direction?

I am happy with it. And I am grateful, that you are doing this,
otherwise we probably still wouldn´t have a even halfway presentable
website yet.

However, I have some points about the content, as mentioned:
http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/msg01599.html
http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/msg00762.html

 c) Do I really have a green light from the SC for this theme [1] [2]?
 It's a heck of a lot of work and, if I do it, I want to be *sure* that
 it is going to be used for the libreoffice.org site. So do I have a go
 or a no-go?
 
 Please do give me clear explicit answers from you all. TIA. ;-)

Are you asking the members of the SC only or does you all mean
every reader on any list you are crossposting to? ;-)

If I am asked: I think Nikashs proposal looks better, than what we
have now.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [Wiki]Two new pages

2010-12-27 Thread Stefan Weigel
Servus Bernhard,

Am 27.12.2010 02:49, schrieb Bernhard Dippold:


 I can't remember to have read any mail about creating another wiki.

http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/website/msg01570.html

quote
there will be actually two wikis: one for TDF, one for LibO
/quote

The LibO wiki will have separate subdomains for each language, which
means a completely different concept and structure to what we have now.

However, this will be sometime in the future. Until then, IMO we
should use the one and only wiki http://wiki.documentfoundation.org,
as we always did, for any purpose we need a wiki for.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Add new language in wiki page

2010-12-23 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi Hung,

Am 23.12.2010 17:40, schrieb Duy Hùng Trần:

 Could we add Vietnamese language in wiki page?

I added vi|VI as a language in Template:Lang and Template:OrigLang.
Please refer to http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Multilingual_Wiki
for instructions.

However, there is an announcement, that we will get yet another wiki
for LibreOffice. The latter will have a subdomain for each language.

http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/website/msg01570.html

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[libreoffice-website] Problem with mailing list annou...@documentfoundation.org

2010-12-22 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi,

last night Thorsten sent an announcement about RC2 to
annou...@documentfoundation.org

This mail does not appear in
http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/announce/ and I didn´t get,
although I´am subscribed to the list. However others got the the mail.

How can this be explained?

Stefan

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[libreoffice-website] website wording concerning MS Office files

2010-12-21 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi,

http://www.test.libreoffice.org/ second paragraph currently reads:
LibreOffice can open and save all Microsoft Office files
Please change this to:
LibreOffice can open and save most Microsoft Office files

http://www.test.libreoffice.org/features/ reads:
You can easily import any Microsoft document
Please change this to:
You can easily import most Microsoft documents

Why? Well, MS Office is much more than Word, Excel and Powerpoint,
but these are the only MS applications LO is file-compatible with
(to a certain degree).

And, http://www.test.libreoffice.org/features/ reads:
You can create and modify tables, forms, queries and reports that
use MySQL, PostgreSQL or Microsoft Access, or – better still – take
the next step to a powerful, stable, integrated HSQL database.

This gives the reader a wrong impression and creates wrong
expectations. Base *cannot* create and modify tables, forms, queries
and reports in Microsoft Access. Base can connect to databases that
are created in MySQL, PostgreSQL or Microsoft Access. Upon that you
can create forms, queries and reports in Base.

The integrated HSQL database ist *not* a step forward from MySQL,
PostgreSQL or Microsoft Access, but a very basic possibility to
build database applications without MySQL, PostgreSQL or Microsoft
Access.

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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-website] Requirement col lection for Drupal website‏

2010-12-21 Thread Stefan Weigel
Am 21.12.2010 11:14, schrieb Narayan Aras:

 
 The stakeholders are as follows (please add if I have missed out any-):
 
 01. Steering Committee 
 02. Marketing team/Evangelists
 03. Usability Team
 04. Project managers
 05. QA team
 06. Release Management team
 07. Configuration Management team
 08. Architects/designers
 09..Coders
 10. Testers
 11. Product-support (bug-tracker) team
 12. Authors of built-in Help system
 13. Authors of User's Manual 
 14. Authors of Programmer's Manual
 15. Authors of commercial books 
 16. Commercial service providers

17. Nonprofit service providers
18. Nonprofit and commercial education providers
19. Certification team
20. User support team
21. Language groups
22. Local groups

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Re: [libreoffice-website] website wording concerning MS Office files

2010-12-21 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi,

Am 21.12.2010 13:19, schrieb Bernhard Dippold:

 LibreOffice can open and save Microsoft Office files.

Maybe it would be even better not to refer to MS Office but to the
Applications for what the statement is true:

LibreOffice can open and save files from Microsoft Word, Excel and
Powerpoint.

My intention is to avoid wrong expectations that lead to
disappointment, as we experienced a lot in the past.

 Same here:
 You can easily import Microsoft Office documents as well as many
 other file formats used by different applications.

Same here:
You can easily import documents from  Microsoft Word, Excel and
Powerpoint as well as many other file formats used by different
applications.

 Based on imported and linked tables and queries from MySQL,
 PostgreSQL or Microsoft Access and many other data sources you can
 build powerful databases containing forms and reports, views and
 queries. Full integration is possible with the in-built HSQL database.

Ok. I can live with that. ;-)

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[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-website] RE: [libreoffic e-website] Re: [libreoffice-website] Requiremen t collection for Drupal website‏

2010-12-21 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi,

Am 21.12.2010 12:42, schrieb Narayan Aras:

 21. Language groups
 22. Local groups
 
 Is that last item (#22) Product i18n/l10n group? 
 If not, we need to add them to the list.

I guess this is still to be defined. The whole project has still to
find its structures.

A language group or NL team IMO can be any group of people that
deliver content in a specific language. This can be documentation,
website content, support services, and much more. It may or may not
include l10n. Their coherence has its source in their common language.

The coherence of a local group is geographically, not necessarily
the same language, for example Switzerland or the tri-state area of
Lower Bavaria, Upper Austria and South Bohemia.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Cannot login in Silverstripe

2010-12-21 Thread Stefan Weigel
Am 21.12.2010 19:38, schrieb Stefan Weigel:

 Is something broken?

Now, it´s working again.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: TODO #6 test.libreoffice.org content improvements

2010-12-18 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi,

Am 18.12.2010 12:43, schrieb Dr. Bernhard Dippold:

 Please don't subsum all the other projects under Developer.

+1

 In opposition to Sophie and Cor I like the Get involved tab
 very much. In my eyes this attracts developers too.

+1

 Even if we need new developers more than any other contributors
 (I don't really know if this is true, but I believe what I've
 been told), the starting place for contribution should show our
 community in a whole. LibreOffice should try to avoid
 discrimination between code contributors and non-code
 contributors wherever it is possible without negative effects.

+1

 I'm quite sure, that it *is* possible to attract developers with
 prominent information on the Get involved page in (nearly?) the
 same way as with a Developer tab.

+1

Contributing can definitely mean more than code, documentation and
money.

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[libreoffice-website] LibreOffice does *not* integrate Adobe Software :-)

2010-12-14 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi,

just two little remarks:

quote from http://www.test.libreoffice.org/features/
BASE is the database engine of the LibreOffice suite.
/quote

Base is *not* a database engine. It´s a database frontend.

quote from http://www.test.libreoffice.org/features/
LibreOffice also comes configured with an Adobe Acrobat PDF file creator
/quote

This could be understood as if LibreOffice would integrate some
software from Adobe, which is not true - AFAIK.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: What's the official policy about the LibO website: Drupal or no Drupal?

2010-12-11 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi,

Am 12.12.2010 07:16, schrieb Marc Paré:

 There has been a competition and the decision: Silverstripe is the
 interim LibreOffice site until the official Drupal site goes live.

That´s not correct. David reports very well the current status:

http://www.mail-archive.com/documentation@libreoffice.org/msg00528.html

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[libreoffice-website] Jumping website left/right (was:Re: CMS Workflow: LibreOffice - Page: International - Status: Completed)

2010-12-09 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi,

Am 10.12.2010 00:23, schrieb Christian Lohmaier:

 Ok. How else can we force a minimum page height, so that every page
 is higher than usual screens? By this, we would have a vertical
 scrollbar on every page.
 
 *IF* we want this (I personally don't) [...]

 Otherwise we have pages with scrollbar and pages without scrollbar,
 which makes the pages shifting left/right when navigating through
 the site. (At least when using Firefox)
 
 That doesn't bother me personally.
 But having lots of emtpy space below the real content makes me think
 there's something wrong with the page.
 
 So again if we really want this [...]

Maybe, it would be good to have some advice from an UX expert.

@Christoph, what do you think?

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[libreoffice-website] Re: [tdf-discuss] Bring up libreoffice.org website to world *now*

2010-12-08 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi,

(I am redirecting this to the website mailing list.)

Am 08.12.2010 08:36, schrieb Sebastian Spaeth:

 I bet the content of the static site would be rpelicated within a day,
 and improving the live site would be much more motivating than playing
 with something that has *test* in its name :)

By static site you mean http://www.documentfoundation.org ?
By live site you mean http://www.libreoffice.org ?

Yes?

Please, please, please, nobody please replicate the content from the
static site on the live site.

Again:
documentfoundation.org is about TDF
libreoffice.org is about the software

There sure will be links from one to the other. But both sites have
different focus, different target and different content.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Download page

2010-12-08 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi,

Am 08.12.2010 15:11, schrieb Samuel Gómez:

 Now, what about this:
 
 If system detection successes, the system prompts a listbox with:
 - Windows
 - Mac x86
 - Mac PPC
 - Linux x86 rpm
 - Linux x86 deb
 - Linux 64 bit rpm
 - Linux 64 bit deb
 
 And the right listbox is pre-selected.

That´s fine. That´s waht we already have.

 Else, if Linux is detected but not the distro, the system prompts a
 different listbox and a link.
 
 The listbox is:
 - Debian
 - Fedora
 - Mandriva
 - Mint
 - PCLinuxOS
 - Ubuntu
 - openSUSE
 
 The link is:
 - Show other versions.
 
 Show other versions leads to the first listbox, but with no
 pre-selected option.

I would never consider showing a selection of distros Debian,
Fedora, Mandriva, Mint, PCLinuxOS, Ubuntu, openSUSE rather than a
selection of package types Windows, Mac x86, Mac PPC, Linux x86 rpm,
Linux x86 deb, Linux 64 bit rpm, Linux 64 bit deb.

But, is that necessary? How often will it be, that the distro will
not be detected? And how often will it be, that the distro will not
be detected *and* the user will not know himself what package type
to choose?

A user, who does not know, if she needs rpm oder deb, is such a user
able to install the software herself, anyway?

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [tdf-discuss] Bring up libreoffice.org website to world *now*

2010-12-08 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi

Am 08.12.2010 22:49, schrieb David Nelson:

 Please do not suggest to people to start editing the site content at
 this particular time. I am currently producing the initial content in
 liaison with Italo Vignoli, and we will never get finished if
 everybody jumps in wildly... 

Sorry, that´s what apperently happened just now. It seems that the
CMS does not have a mechnism to warn you, if you are submitting a
page, that has been changed by another since you startet editing. :-(

 Before, other members of the website team had weeks and weeks to work
 on it, and did practically nothing.

Not exactly. Before, the members of the website team were constantly
calling for the community to commit content.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Download page changed?

2010-12-08 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hallo Christian,

Am 07.12.2010 07:31, schrieb Stefan Weigel:

 https://test.libreoffice.org/download-3/
 
 Prima! :-)
 
 I vote for renaming it to http://.../download/ and linking it in the
 menu.

Ok, this has happened now.

 I will be happy to again rebuild the german translation for it
 then.

Sorry, I can´t translate this particular page, because I do not see
how its content is managed. I do not see the published content or
any code that produces the content in edit mode. And I do not see
the published contentor any code that produces the content in HTML
view of the editor, either.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Download convenience, here and now?

2010-12-07 Thread Stefan Weigel
David,

Am 07.12.2010 12:34, schrieb David Nelson:

 Our users are *not* supposed to be downloading from the test site.

I do not propose that users download from the test site. I am asking
for quick improvement of the currently official download page
http://www.documentfoundation.org/download/.

 test.libreoffice.org is a test and staging facility

No, it´s the construction site.

The test site is: http://pumbaa.ooodev.org:7780

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Download page changed?

2010-12-06 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi David,

Am 06.12.2010 22:06, schrieb David Nelson:

 I made some pages that reproduce some of the content on the live
 site... 

Sorry, but I don´t understand what you are doing. Are you trying to
replicate www.documentfoundation.org at www.test.libreoffice.org?
Does this make any sense? The two domains have different focus,
different audience and thus they will have different content.

documentfoundation.org is about the foundation.
libreoffice.org is about the product.

There was already some basic structure on www.test.libreoffice.org
for product presentation, support and so on. I would recommend to
restore something like that.

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[libreoffice-website] Download convenience, here and now?

2010-12-06 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi,

we are frequently getting questions from users willing to try and
download LibreOffice, that cannot find the adequate packages. IMHO
we do need a download page, that presents the packages in a
convenient selection, now!

For this, until Dec 5, 2010 there was a script integrated in
http://www.test.libreoffice.org/download/, momentarily still
available at http://www.de.test.libreoffice.org/download-de-DE-2/.
Meanwhile Christian Lohmeier presented another (better) technical
solution for the same purpose, currently to be seen here:
http://www.test.libreoffice.org/download-3/.

As long as the LibreOffice site is not officially public, and as
long as we are pointing interested parties to
http://www.documentfoundation.org/download/, is there a chance to
improve the latter by quickly and temporarily integrating one of the
scripts mentioned above?

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[libreoffice-website] Re: Download-Selector Script - Feedback wanted

2010-11-22 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi,

Am 22.11.2010 16:48, schrieb Christian Lohmaier:

 http://pumbaa.ooodev.org:7780/home/download-and-sub/
 
 Please give feedback, what do you think about it

I like it!

 (also about the
 expandable full list below the convenience selectors,

good stuff

 whether it is
 preferable to have the torrent as a toggle-option or just add a
 (Torrentlink) after every regular link.

I think it´s good to have the torrents accessible. Personally, I
don´t care whether this is managed by the check box or a separate link.

I would recommend to hide the select controls by default and make
them visible by script, because you don´t want to see them, if your
browser doesn´t do scripting.

Also, when scripting is disabled, how can the user reach the torrents?

It seems that you couldn´t find out, which languages are included in
the multi exe and which are included in the all_lang exe. Neither
did I: http://go.mail-archive.com/VqvpZ45gkVyZPdeZOBCyyymnHXo=

Gruß

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Status of Website

2010-11-09 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi,

Am 10.11.2010 02:10, schrieb Alexandro Colorado:

 I register to the site, but havent found how to add content to it.
 Did I miss something?

After registering, you have to apply for your role.

http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/The-real-thing-is-available-CMS-on-the-new-server-ready-for-use-tp1844762p1844762.html

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Re: [libreoffice-website] File Type Support in the TDF Wiki (no ZIP anymore)

2010-11-09 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi Flo,

Am 09.11.2010 10:45, schrieb Florian Effenberger:

 that ZIP (TAR.GZ, ...) isn't working anymore.

 let me know if it works now - I made a modificataion to the
 configuration file.

Could you take care of .docx and .xlsx? When uploading these types
of files, an error message comes up: wrong MIME type.

Volker Heggemann has been complaining about this on [de-discuss] the
last couple of days. I can confirm the problem.

Thank you.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Wiki page with list of Localised mailists

2010-11-08 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi,

Am 08.11.2010 09:38, schrieb Florian Effenberger:

 I was just on the Wiki page with the list of localised mailists and I
 found it odd that all of them are in English. Should these all be in
 their localised languages for membership sign-ups?
 
 you mean localizing the items like archive, subscription etc.? Yes,
 if people want to localize, that would be a great idea!

Wouldn´t it be good to add {{OrigLang|}} to this page in order to be
able to easily navigate to the corresponding language pages?

For example:

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Local_Mailing_Lists/de

I would edit Local_Mailing_Lists, but it´s locked.

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[libreoffice-website] to all wiki editors: use of headings

2010-11-08 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi to all wiki editors,

for the sake of better readability of wiki articles in the wikipedia
they have the rule, *not* to use level-one headings. A level-two
heading is the highest level editors use in an article.

The reason is, that level-one headings have the same styling as the
page title. However, headings inside your article schould be
optically at least one level below the page title.

I´d like to recommend to apply this rule to the TDF wiki as well.

So, don´t use this:
= Heading =

Only use this:
== Heading ==
=== Heading ===
 Heading 
and so on.

Thanks for considering.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: ConfCall wiki page broken?

2010-11-08 Thread Stefan Weigel
Am 08.11.2010 14:37, schrieb klaus-jürgen weghorn ol:

 Damned Rich Editor.
 I crashed all the links in http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA
 because of this RE.
 I only deactivate RE, copy in {{OrigLang|}} and after saving the
 links are crashed.

I fixed it.

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[libreoffice-website] [CMS] Editing HTML manually

2010-11-06 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi,

how can I prevent Silverstripe from messing up my manually edited
HTML code?

For example, when I add some comment
!-- This is a comment --
Silverstripe will delete it completely.

Or, when I insert some blank lines or line breaks for the sake of
better readability Silverstripe will delete them completely.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] [CMS] Editing HTML manually

2010-11-06 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi David,

Am 06.11.2010 11:12, schrieb David Nelson:

 On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 16:34, Stefan Weigel
 stefan.wei...@bildungskreis.org wrote:
 how can I prevent Silverstripe from messing up my manually edited
 HTML code?
 
 The SilverStripe documentation for content editors can be found here:
 
 http://userhelp.silverstripe.org/for-website-content-editors/creating-and-editing-content/

Thank you for this. However I couldn´t find the answer to my
question in this documentation. Any other hints?

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Re: [libreoffice-website] [CMS] Editing HTML manually

2010-11-06 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hallo Christian,

Am 06.11.2010 15:10, schrieb Christian Lohmaier:

 Or, when I insert some blank lines or line breaks for the sake of
 better readability Silverstripe will delete them completely.
 
 Found 
 http://wiki.moxiecode.com/index.php/TinyMCE:Configuration/remove_linebreaks
 
 Enough to fit your needs? Doesn't preserve emtpy lines, but allows
 linebreaks within a tag's content

Good enough, thanks! :-)

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Do we need a WYSIWYG for the wiki ? (was: Re: [libreoffice-website] ConfCall wiki page broken?)

2010-11-05 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi Florian, *,

Am 05.11.2010 17:05, schrieb Florian Effenberger:

 * There is currently no real WYSIWIG editor that works[1]. If there
 were, Wikimedia would use it.
 
 I'm happy to hear other opinions, but IMHO we *NEED* a WYSIWYG
 editor. Many users will be very uncomfortable otherwise, so I'd even
 take the risk of slightly defective pages in favor of WYSIWYG. I use
 FCKEditor on another wiki of a customer, and it performs quite well.
 I'm for it, but that's just my take. ;)

I personally would never use the WYSIWYG editor. I consider myself
as an average skilled user.

Do other users need one or ask for one? I don´t know.

However, I see Wikipedia without WYSIWYG and most Wikipedia authors
are definitely far away from being a hackers brain. ;-)

Other examples, and quite compareable to us, are wiki.ubuntuusers.de
as well as the community wiki at ubuntu.com. They don´t have WYSIWYG
either.

If a WYSIWYG editor is a risk to our content, I would recommend not
to have one. I´d rather recommend to use LibreOffice Writer and its
Export to MediaWiki functionality. :-)

2 ct,

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Wiki Categories

2010-11-03 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi,

Am 03.11.2010 10:36, schrieb Nino Novak:

 On Wednesday 03 November 2010 02:11, Marc Paré wrote:
 
 I saw that Florian, on some mailist (can't remember which one), has
 asked someone to help out with the Wiki. We may have be able to have
 a re-name session for pages before the pages get too numerous and out
 of control.
 
 Just wanting to add my 2 cents: Do not rush defining conventions in the 
 wiki as creativity might suffer. If any, keep rules simple.

+1

And please, check back with Florian (and his newly acquired wiki
expert?) about language specific naming conventions.

Again:

In MediaWiki localized pages carry a /xx suffix rather than a XX/
prefix. The convention pagetitle/xx means that translated pages can
easily be handled, because there is a ready-to-use plugin for the
wiki engine.

Also see Florians mails about this topic:
http://www.mail-archive.com/website@libreoffice.org/msg00083.html

Thanks,

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Wiki: Search? Recent changes? Bug tracker?

2010-10-21 Thread Stefan Weigel

Hallo Flo,

Florian Effenberger schrieb:


The search function seems broken in the wiki.
Try putting a term (e.g. mailing list) into the search field top
right. A new page is created rather that showing search results.


Seems to work for me - pages that don't exist are created, others are 
opened.


Yes, it´s the search for pages by their name, in contrast to the 
text search http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Special:Search


Other MediaWiki installations have a search function, that first 
checks if there is a matching page name and, if not, automatically 
performs a text search.


IMO it would meet the users expectations, if we had it this way.

Stefan

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Houston, we have a problem.

2010-10-18 Thread Stefan Weigel

Marc Paré schrieb:


Le 2010-10-18 13:29, James Wilde a écrit :


Marc, there already _is_ a LibO forum board.  It's at 
liberofficeforum.org



Then, if this is the official LibO forum board


It is not. From what I understand, it is a well-meant initiative by 
someone, whos name is Sam. But...


There was already a discussion about libreforum.org on this list 
earlier this month.


I´d rather recommend to use the already existing forums, for example

http://www.openoffice.info
http://user.services.openoffice.org/es/forum/index.php
http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/index.php

(1) These forums are run by community members. They are independent 
from Oracle, who seems to be leaving the community. They cover 
OpenOffice.org, StarOffice, NeoOffice and LibreOffice and more. I 
think there is no need to set up additional community forums.


(2) I´d prefer forum sites without commercial advertisements.

(3) The existing forums represent a huge knowlegde base, valid for 
OpenOffice.org as well as LibreOffice. IMO it does not make sense, 
to start over from scratch or spread the knowledge over several 
places by establishing yet another forum.


IMHO, the only change, that could make sense, is introducing new 
URLs, naming libreoffice instead of openoffice, since Oracle seems 
to be leaving the community but keeping the brand.


If community goes the road of LibO then the community forums will 
also take that road. (rgb.m...@gmail.com, 2010-OCT-07)


Stefan


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Reminder for localized wiki pages

2010-10-17 Thread Stefan Weigel

Hi,

Per Eriksson schrieb:

I think the Swedish community will have a bigger use of localized web 
pages, as they are key pages for the visitor. The wiki will be a 
collaboration area with all the bleeding edge stuff, so we will not have 
the time to translate everything new that is getting there every day. :-)


The convention pagetitle/xx means that translated pages can easily 
be handled, because there is a ready-to-use plugin for the wiki 
engine. At least that´s what I have been told. I am not an expert.


The convention pagetitle/xx does not mean that pages have to be 
translated. There is no need for translating everything new that is 
getting there every day.


:-)

Stefan


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Reminder for localized wiki pages

2010-10-13 Thread Stefan Weigel

Hi,

Per Eriksson schrieb:


Stefan Weigel wrote on 2010-10-13 13.44:



In MediaWiki localized pages carry a /xx suffix rather than a XX/
prefix. At the bottom of each page a box for language selection
automatically appears by using a template:


Just one thought, how would you arrange a bunch of pages for a language 
team which are originals, i.e. not a translation? The Swedish team for 
example, will not have any translated documents, we will have a bunch of 
documents describing our internal processes probably in our way. Would 
they be english titled pages directly under /?


Good point. It would be good to consult some MediaWiki expert, who 
is aware of the concepts. Maybe there are already mature concepts 
for structuring a wiki for large projects with subprojects.


Stefan

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