Re: [Webware-discuss] What's in a style

2004-04-22 Thread Thomas E Jenkins
On Thu, 2004-04-22 at 23:56 -0400, Todd Grimason wrote: > * Ian Bicking <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-04-22 23:26]: > I'd agree and say just a decent [up to date with CVS or 0.8] tutorial > would be the best balance and use of time. Perhaps implementing > whatever the common example is for Java servlet

Re: [Webware-discuss] second thoughts.

2004-04-22 Thread Ian Bicking
Also of interest is htmlarea: http://www.interactivetools.com/products/htmlarea/ I think if I was going to do WYSIWYG on a new project, I'd use that. On Apr 23, 2004, at 12:05 AM, Shayne ONeill wrote: Have you guys seen 'epoz' (now renamed to 'kupu')? I've been trying to integrate it with the co

Re: [Webware-discuss] second thoughts.

2004-04-22 Thread Shayne ONeill
Have you guys seen 'epoz' (now renamed to 'kupu')? I've been trying to integrate it with the code i'm doing. Its quite an astonishing html editor thats all javascript and looks and works great. Caveat: ie5.5 + or moz. and not ie5.5 on mac. However it really is the same user experience as working

Re: [Webware-discuss] second thoughts.

2004-04-22 Thread Ian Bicking
On Apr 22, 2004, at 9:50 PM, Shayne ONeill wrote: Erm. Should I use one of the wiki's to do this? Is the new one stable enuff to trust it with a bunch of work? Sure -- it saves everything right away to plain text files, and the only exceptions I've seen lately are from bots making invalid requests

Re: [Webware-discuss] What's in a style

2004-04-22 Thread Aaron Held
I would love to see a book - I've taught webware and written some tutorials and guides - but nothing recent. I think a pure webware book would fail, and there have been a few less then interesting Web Development in Python books as well. Something like Enterprise Integration in Python would b

Re: [Webware-discuss] What's in a style

2004-04-22 Thread Todd Grimason
* Ian Bicking <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-04-22 23:26]: > On Apr 22, 2004, at 1:03 PM, Aaron Held wrote: > > I would love to see a book - I've taught webware and written some > > tutorials and guides - but nothing recent. > > > > I think a pure webware book would fail, and there have been a few >

Re: [Webware-discuss] What's in a style

2004-04-22 Thread Shayne ONeill
Actually the webware chapter in dietel was probably the only part of the book that really failed imho. Only because it missed the good stuff and concentrated on the psp. That said, theres probably rhyme and reason there in that it was intending to show that such a beast does exist, although I'm in

Re: [Webware-discuss] What's in a style

2004-04-22 Thread Ian Bicking
On Apr 22, 2004, at 1:03 PM, Aaron Held wrote: I would love to see a book - I've taught webware and written some tutorials and guides - but nothing recent. I think a pure webware book would fail, and there have been a few less then interesting Web Development in Python books as well. I agree -

[Webware-discuss] second thoughts.

2004-04-22 Thread Shayne ONeill
Perhaps I could however whack together a short tutorial on the basics of getting a simple cgi-like servlet happening and then a few ideas how to use the more stateful/servlet-y properties of webware. Erm. Should I use one of the wiki's to do this? Is the new one stable enuff to trust it with a bu

Re: [Webware-discuss] What's in a style

2004-04-22 Thread Shayne ONeill
Again. Its one of those things I could probably do well. I guess the problem for me personally is I'd have to find a publisher for me to justify the rather large time investment book writing takes. I'd probably also have to get someone else to lookysee in on the NT stuff as I'm usually a linux gu

[Webware-discuss] multiple submits and lost responses

2004-04-22 Thread David London
I'm running into what I'm told is a common problem, so I'm hoping that someone out there has a common solution. My users are submitting the page multiple times. Based on the user input and the state my code does a number of calculations. If I get the same input multiple times the data can become

Re: [Webware-discuss] Changing actions

2004-04-22 Thread Matt Feifarek
Ian Bicking wrote: I don't think this is new to CVS, but I don't have a copy of 0.8.1 handy, and CVS history still scares me ;) It's at the end of Page.respond, where if no actions are found it calls defaultAction -- Yeah, I checked. It's not there. Only actions registered in actions() are lo

Re: [Webware-discuss] Changing actions

2004-04-22 Thread Ian Bicking
Matt Feifarek wrote: Ian Bicking wrote: Actions are always -- that's what defaultAction is there for. I don't think so. Actions only happen when there's _action_XXX in the request. But maybe you've changed this behavior. I don't think this is new to CVS, but I don't have a copy of 0.8.1 handy, a

Re: [Webware-discuss] Changing actions

2004-04-22 Thread Ian Bicking
Matt Feifarek wrote: Ian Bicking wrote: We have defaultAction now. It's only wonky because it doesn't call preAction/postAction, where all other actions do. But if we get rid of those, then it's not a problem. Anyway, defaultAction now just calls writeHTML. I don't think output is an actio

Re: [Webware-discuss] Changing actions

2004-04-22 Thread Matt Feifarek
Ian Bicking wrote: We have defaultAction now. It's only wonky because it doesn't call preAction/postAction, where all other actions do. But if we get rid of those, then it's not a problem. Anyway, defaultAction now just calls writeHTML. I don't think output is an action. Output is always; ac

Re: [Webware-discuss] offline wiki access

2004-04-22 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Jacob Martinson hat gesagt: // Jacob Martinson wrote: > so im in the process of learning webkit and the bulk of the work i do is > from a location w/o internet access. > > so far i've been able to find more of what i've needed from the dynamic > twiki content than the static documentation

Re: [Webware-discuss] offline wiki access

2004-04-22 Thread Ian Bicking
Jacob Martinson wrote: so im in the process of learning webkit and the bulk of the work i do is from a location w/o internet access. so far i've been able to find more of what i've needed from the dynamic twiki content than the static documentation included with the webware source. is there any way

[Webware-discuss] offline wiki access

2004-04-22 Thread Jacob Martinson
so im in the process of learning webkit and the bulk of the work i do is from a location w/o internet access. so far i've been able to find more of what i've needed from the dynamic twiki content than the static documentation included with the webware source. is there any way i could get a zipped

Re: [Webware-discuss] mod_webkit2 and Python 2.3.3 on RedHat 9.0

2004-04-22 Thread Peter Ogilvy
Hi All, Thanks for all the responses. I've got it working now. I was confused by the documentation :-) I assumed the webkit script for mod_webkit2 was starting the AppServer via the AppServer script rather than directly. The documentation explicitly mentions changing the path to the python exec

Fwd: Re: [Webware-discuss] mod_webkit2 and Python 2.3.3 on RedHat 9.0

2004-04-22 Thread Peter Ogilvy
Hi All, Thanks for all the responses. I've got it working now. I was confused by the documentation :-) I assumed the webkit script for mod_webkit2 was starting the AppServer via the AppServer script rather than directly. The documentation explicitly mentions changing the path to the python exec