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to the point people will not care to take notice.
"excellent to each other" does not mean "to sweep all the problems
under the carpet".
I can convey the same content in a relatively veiled way.
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> 2. If we want posters made strictly using foss tools then we can tone down
> the background.
I know the right wing will want everything toned down
I am making longer, apparently toned down but not toned down :)
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es will be final and binding.
Important Dates:
Submission Begins: 1st June'2013
Last Date of Submission: 14th June'2013
Announcement of Results: 15th June'2013
Gallery Update: By 24th June'2013
Panel of Judges:
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dy been announced in 10+ channels.
Your ideas will require another competition. The *positive* aspect
that you are expecting, does not exist in the minds of potential
participants :-) as we will need to change the topic for having
*positive* posters
>
> 2013/6/6 A. Mani
>
>> U
FOSS tools and explain their use in their
work. Those who have used them before will have a sharp advantage over
others. Simple.
Vagueness helps.
>> No, we have to provide directions on what we are looking for.
>> Otherwise we will get all kinds of posters.
>>
>
>
The current plan is to restrict possible topics for posters
I think we need a additional section for that because of the above.
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logos are hardly clear ... so we dropped the idea after
discussion. Present wfs-logo is fine.
Combining the two logos is too difficult and given current principles
of logo design.
That might be interesting.
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Has this been decided/done?
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> Has this been decided/done?
I have created provision for adding galleries.
But lacks advanced features.
Demo: http://www.wfs-india.org/p/demo
(of course the colors + writeup format can be easily improved.)
If it is all right, then we w
easier to maintain and create new galleries.
>Cons: Each image in a gallery will not have a dedicated URL.
I think this will be better.
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Please add it to the box on 'Mailing List'.
I am not able to find the content from inside.
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On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 7:26 PM, A. Mani wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Satabdi Das wrote:
>> Here's the completed poster for poster competition. Please let me know if it
>> seems fine. I'll then start sharing it on the social media.
>
> Ok fi
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:59 PM, Satabdi Das wrote:
> Is there any logo for Glug-Cal?
No, we never made one
link text to ilug-cal.info or iglug-cal.org
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The wfs url is wfs-india.org not sfs-india...
People also like sober kind of posters that stand out from the crowd.
Looking at that girl in the poster ...people in India are likely think
of ...'another of the charity posters' :)
Use all posters and use your discretion.
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stems at the earliest)".
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On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:08 PM, A. Mani wrote:
> Otherwise we must write things like "or if you have no OS with freedom
> available, then you can use the free s/w tools on MS Windows. As the
> cause of free software would be compromised by the use of MS Windows,
> this would n
r that
>
I have written nothing about MS there.
I have stressed the freedom part of GNU/Linux, BSD and GNU/Hurd
People who compromise stand to lose everything.
M$ specializes in marketing FUD too. Does it have an unprofessional
attitude? or is it not best in marketing?
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ave written is ... a few words on freedom.
Not a lecture on M$'s evils.
Since tomorrow is the last date, I can drop references to M$ windows
altogether :)
That is always better (done).
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On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Aruna S wrote:
> +1 to increasing the deadline.
Then we increase it by 2 weeks to 30th June?
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> Then we increase it by 2 weeks to 30th June?
Addendum: we wait till tomorrow.
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and break the ecosystem.
So an additional course module with links to key resources is a must in case-2
Even for case-1 it should be available.
For the Git event, at least one mentor should handle all this.
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'extend time' is fine but by how much?
30th June?
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ancake then people will not bother. Corporate
sponsored FOSS has its problems of vanishing discourse.
Anyway Satabdi's mail is off target.
Please comment on my guidelines in my last reply in this thread.
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> 30th June seems good enough. In the meantime, let us promote the competition
> on various channels and through posters at colleges.
30th June.
Please correct all posters and communicate.
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ruption,
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But I decided on keeping the focus.
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is not very different from lying).
I am saying that all events for newbies should have clear links to
FOSS resources including FOSS philosophy.
If you won't even give a clue then how on earth will your newbie divine things?
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>
>
> I think we have different opinions on how to motivate people. I personally
> get motivated from doers, by awesome ideas, amazing software and other many
> constructive things. Hence in my opinion, we need to show better
> alternatives.
The category of 'motivation
We believe in free software means that
we should put our point across and not destroy ourselves by saying nothing.
Users always have the freedom... irrespective of what we say.
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ching.
>
> 2. Be helpful to each other.
Read mailing list rules
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have become more evil and
powerful players in the plutocracy in most parts of the world.
If you talk about "media", then about 6 groups control most of the world.
Where are you going?
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sense.
Everybody's opinion counts.
I am removing it unless somebody says something.
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meant.
Well, when others accuse then one has to respond.
"corporate speak", "sweeping things under the carpet" are about
content not the person.
"you are confused" ... ok that is hard on others. It is more about
choice of words and underlying logic. That could as well be
e not observing it.
Mailing lists should not look like they are full of people but appear
like discourses between strings of symbols.
If you do have a problem with anybody, then take it up off list.
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Nice summary:
http://prism-break.org/
But even then the Internet does not really become free.
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things.
> d) Let the growth be organic rather than dictated.
>
> personally, anything akin to a tag cloud and a search interface is just fine.
This is more like http://bikeshed.com/
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It will help if a Delhi/ non-Kolkata team is registered for wfs.
So that will fit in with local activities.
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a panel or region that shows small amount
of text with effects usually.
Does anybody have any solid arguments against this?
Otherwise, replace "NewsFlash" with "FOSS News".
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till we
> feel a need for it.
+1
so reports go to FOSS News.
Suppress Articles, NewsFlash
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lace 'newsflash' on front page with foss news.
Menu is taken care of.
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ective of how simple their
Snippets for many violations and compliance need to be added and structured etc
https://wfs-india.etherpad.mozilla.org/9
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nation?
No, because you are merely describing the state of affairs.
Debomitro's point ignores the conditioning of women in society. But
you should have been more clear.
This article should be helpful on some aspects that your remark relates to:
http://text-relations.blogspot.dk/2013/03/the-you
;bug"
> report style improvement that OP had suggested for improvement of the
> mailing list rules.
Mailing list rules/guidelines need examples and simplifications.
That is in etherpad.
We are discussing important points here ... all relevant for guidelines
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further. Often they lack confidence and
motivation. A key reason is gender-dependent conditioning.
Teaching strategies should therefore depend on gender. We need to
explore this in more detail.
To start with, the rat of rat race is different from the nun of a religion.
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More complex Rules
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sloppy on rules
but we should flag poor sense.
Question1: Is C+E our strategy or do experienced members follow new
weakened versions of standard rules?
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of law.
Experienced members will have clear idea of rules.
Both you and IDG are not able to say anything on rules.
I am resolving it this way:
"Experienced members may continue to follow the strict version of
mailing list rules, but are advised to maintain a cheerful and helpful
atmosphe
solution is
"Experienced members may continue to follow the strict version of
mailing list rules, but are advised to maintain a cheerful and helpful
atmosphere. "
I will see if I can improve it further.
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Derogatory words and teaching do not go into the same category.
Newbies may interpret this as "do not exchange any helpful information"
Howtos may not be shared.
Use of language should have clarity.
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ples in a linked place or inline?
The top-post rule never gets into people's head :)
Examples are needed.
I am adding it inline
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your edited version 51 lacks simplicity and misses out on too much.
So the previous version should be expanded a bit and would be ideal .
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On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 7:45 AM, A. Mani wrote:
> So the previous version should be expanded a bit and would be ideal
That means Revision 54...58 : )
Polished language
Add one more example.
Stalking and other problems are a threat even in big cities.
Feminism and technology sees plenty
gful friendship do often
blossom between individuals on an online community. However any report
of attempts to stalk or similarly harass a member may lead to life ban
from membership as well as possible report of such activity to Law
Enforcement Agencies
* If in doubt, send an o
/should_kickstarter_have_taken_down_ken_hoinsky_s_above_the_game_a_guide.html
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problems by not understanding the
issues and shouting needlessly with the intent of making wfs-india a
toothless group for having "fun".
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On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 9:09 PM, Kaustav Das Modak
wrote:
> On Friday 21 June 2013 08:53 PM, A. Mani wrote:
>>
>> Combined Reply:
>>
>> 0. We are keeping all discussions open.
>>
>> So women's issues will definitely and have got into our discussions all
ing list rules is pretty standard.
We have improved it for our purposes.
Be happy.
>
> Maybe, I'm wrong and others here might be nodding in assent to your views
> and concerns. Maybe the silence is really an acknowledgement of your
> commitment. In that case, I really do stres
other.
I wrote the welcome message.
In fact 5 people were directly added.
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> really dislike being added to mailing lists, or anything in general, without
> permission, regardless if I know you or not.
Sorry, those were bootstrapping times.
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ss but also
> ask you to leave this group.
So it is your dictatorship.
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re allowed to contribute directly preferably after discussion
on mail list: c
But no guide in place.:
There must be a way as some did: d
e: must request admin
f: admins
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ll post it soon.
ps. OK, I am changing that write up for your group :)
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Is the voting mechanism efficient enough?
Users need not be logged in to vote!?
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On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Kaustav Das Modak
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> It can be changed to allow only logged in members to vote. Let me know if
> that is needed.
Yes that should be the minimum.
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lear focus.
Activities spectrum: no problem
Fact: there are many feminists and free s/w activists and so many activists.
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I will be very busy in 1st half of July.
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edited partly.
0. address readers too.
1. Is wfs a free s/w or an open source group?
It would be better to stick to 'free software' or use the ambiguous 'FOSS'.
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Ideas:
booki
http://en.flossmanuals.net/_booki/tech-tools-for-activism/tech-tools-for-activism.pdf
http://en.flossmanuals.net/_booki/collaborative-futures/collaborative-futures.pdf
http://www.praat.org
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p definitely do no support any activity which is deemed to be illegal by
> the laws of the land in this group.
Anonymous is not a well defined entity.
It's methodology is discussed in the book.
There is no question of it being 'banned' in India.
The book is not banned in India :)
t; step down from the admin post of this group.
I do not see this making sense in the light of the above.
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ymous". So there is no violation of any law.
But yes that mailing list rule should be written in clearer terms.
"Illegal" with respect to whom? The original rules were from
ilug-delhi.
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ar of university study. At least one team member must be an
IEEE member. To find out more about this exciting opportunity, visit:
http://www.ieee.org/go/smarter_planet_challenge or email
smartplanetchalle...@ieee.org.
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/ journalism/ activism/ etc rather
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received all our entries before 13th June and well
before the extension of dates.
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On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 10:15 PM, Satabdi Das wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Have we decided on the winner of the poster competition?
Announced.
> @Kaustav, is the gallery ready to display the winner's entry?
>
@Kaustav please add all three entries.
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In the announcement on website, please add this line:
"Selection was easy as the number of eligible submissions were less
than the total number of prizes".
Also prizes have already been sent.
There are sharp differences on technical quality of the posters.
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Added a brief report at
http://www.ilug-cal.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=206&Itemid=2
and
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events/CFD-India%272013#Event_Report
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http://www.saylor.org/
http://opencourselibrary.org/ : Introductory College courses (updated recently)
http://opencourselibrary.org/featured-courses
are design wise good.
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e, they may not be bold enough to do so.
All things considered, this stands as a good community effort!
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On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 10:50 PM, sankarshan
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> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 10:50 AM, A. Mani wrote:
>> Report on Poster Competition on Womens and LGBT Issues
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>> This will be one competition that provoked plenty of debate and in my
>> opinion, exposed the
etc.
academia.edu is better than researchgate.net as far as commitment to
open access is concerned. They are not well designed though.
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http://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/technology/internet/opening-foss-doors-to-women/article4960641.ece
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ything about it. I can maybe talk to this teacher again,
> about it, saying that the speaker doesn't want participants forced
> into this
Don't bother, git is useful for all and college reform is not that easy.
Announce on website?
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27;women are brain-washed all through' paradigm.
Simply offering more opportunities will not help as the problem goes
well beyond 'shying from competition'.
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> suggestions/ideas on what we can do.
Meeting report?
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On Anand Pillai trolling in the most ridiculous way:
See this thread :
https://mail.python.org/pipermail/bangpypers/2013-September/009353.html
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http://geekfeminism.org/2013/09/05/tone-policing-a-tool-for-protecting-male-power
http://geekfeminism.org/2013/09/11/to-my-daughters-high-school-programming-teacher/
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p://www.aetherlumina.com/gnp/faq.html
http://www.english.illinois.edu/-people-/faculty/debaron/essays/epicene.htm
http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Nonsexist_language (needs more updating)
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can girl who was
part of the same student group, which presents a somewhat different
picture:
http://travelingwhilefemale.blogspot.in/2013/08/a-response-to-rosechasms-cnn-ireport.html
And this response is by a young Indian woman:
http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1023884
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; Why is this posted to this list anyway?
Apart from the above, if we organize a conference in some future
people may not come. In academic scenario, apart from ridiculous
infrastructure costs, this type of feedback will have adverse effects.
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and gender discrimination.
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g. But
many other feminists will stick to what was stated earlier.
In a "code of conduct" guidelines, I don't have a problem in being inclusive.
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