Re: working on patch to limit to percent of bandwidth

2007-10-10 Thread Hrvoje Niksic
Jim Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - --limit-rate will find your version handy, but I want to hear from them. :) I would appreciate and have use for such an option. We often access instruments in remote locations (think a tiny island in the Aleutians) where we share bandwidth with other

Re: working on patch to limit to percent of bandwidth

2007-10-10 Thread Jim Wright
I think there is still a case for attempting percent limiting. I agree with your point that we can not discover the full bandwidth of the link and adjust to that. The approach discovers the current available bandwidth and adjusts to that. The usefullness is in trying to be unobtrusive to other

Re: working on patch to limit to percent of bandwidth

2007-10-10 Thread Tony Godshall
- --limit-rate will find your version handy, but I want to hear from them. :) I would appreciate and have use for such an option. We often access instruments in remote locations (think a tiny island in the Aleutians) where we share bandwidth with other organizations. A

Re: working on patch to limit to percent of bandwidth

2007-10-10 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Jim Wright wrote: I think there is still a case for attempting percent limiting. I agree with your point that we can not discover the full bandwidth of the link and adjust to that. The approach discovers the current available bandwidth and

Re: working on patch to limit to percent of bandwidth

2007-10-10 Thread Tony Godshall
... I worry that that might be more harmful to those sharing channel in cases like Hvroje's ... Sorry, Hvroje, Jim, I meant Jim's case. Tony

Re: working on patch to limit to percent of bandwidth

2007-10-10 Thread Tony Godshall
Jim Wright wrote: I think there is still a case for attempting percent limiting. I agree with your point that we can not discover the full bandwidth of the link and adjust to that. The approach discovers the current available bandwidth and adjusts to that. The usefullness is in trying

Re: working on patch to limit to percent of bandwidth

2007-10-10 Thread Hrvoje Niksic
Jim Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think there is still a case for attempting percent limiting. I agree with your point that we can not discover the full bandwidth of the link and adjust to that. The approach discovers the current available bandwidth and adjusts to that. The

RE: working on patch to limit to percent of bandwidth

2007-10-10 Thread Tony Lewis
Hrvoje Niksic wrote: Measuring initial bandwidth is simply insufficient to decide what bandwidth is really appropriate for Wget; only the user can know that, and that's what --limit-rate does. The user might be able to make a reasonable guess as to the download rate if wget reported its

Re: working on patch to limit to percent of bandwidth

2007-10-10 Thread Tony Godshall
On 10/10/07, Tony Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hrvoje Niksic wrote: Measuring initial bandwidth is simply insufficient to decide what bandwidth is really appropriate for Wget; only the user can know that, and that's what --limit-rate does. The user might be able to make a reasonable

Re: working on patch to limit to percent of bandwidth

2007-10-10 Thread Tony Godshall
Indeed. On 10/10/07, Hrvoje Niksic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think there is still a case for attempting percent limiting. I agree with your point that we can not discover the full bandwidth of the link and adjust to that. The approach discovers the

Re: wget 1.10.2 doesn't compile on NetBSD/i386 3.1

2007-10-10 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 (We don't have reply-to's set; I've re-included the list on this.) Ray Phillips wrote: Thanks for your reply Micah. Ray Phillips wrote: I thought I'd report my experiences trying to install wget 1.10.2 on NetBSD/i386 3.1. I'll append the

Re: working on patch to limit to percent of bandwidth

2007-10-10 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hrvoje Niksic wrote: Jim Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think there is still a case for attempting percent limiting. I agree with your point that we can not discover the full bandwidth of the link and adjust to that. The approach

Re: wget 1.10.2 doesn't compile on NetBSD/i386 3.1

2007-10-10 Thread Daniel Stenberg
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Micah Cowan wrote: It appears from your description that Wget's check in http-ntlm.c: #if OPENSSL_VERSION_NUMBER 0x00907001L is wrong. Your copy of openssl seems to be issuing a number lower than that, and yet has the newer, capitalized names. I don't think that check

Re: wget 1.10.2 doesn't compile on NetBSD/i386 3.1

2007-10-10 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Daniel Stenberg wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Micah Cowan wrote: It appears from your description that Wget's check in http-ntlm.c: #if OPENSSL_VERSION_NUMBER 0x00907001L is wrong. Your copy of openssl seems to be issuing a number lower than

Re: working on patch to limit to percent of bandwidth

2007-10-10 Thread Tony Godshall
I think there is still a case for attempting percent limiting. I agree with your point that we can not discover the full bandwidth of the link and adjust to that. The approach discovers the current available bandwidth and adjusts to that. The usefullness is in trying to be unobtrusive

Re: working on patch to limit to percent of bandwidth

2007-10-10 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Tony Godshall wrote: The scenario I was picturing was where you'd want to make sure some bandwidth was left available so that unfair routers wouldn't screw your net-neighbors. I really don't see this as an attempt to be unobtrusive at all.

Re: wget 1.10.2 doesn't compile on NetBSD/i386 3.1

2007-10-10 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Ray Phillips wrote: Ray, if you add the line #include openssl/opensslv.h along with the other openssl #includes, does it fix your problem wrt openssl-9.7d? I made this change: % diff -u http-ntlm.c.orig http-ntlm.c --- http-ntlm.c.orig

Re: wget 1.10.2 doesn't compile on NetBSD/i386 3.1

2007-10-10 Thread Ray Phillips
It would be nice if wget 1.10.2 would compile on NetBSD without having to install a second version of openssl. Well, it's too late to change Wget 1.10.2; Yes, sorry Micah--I really meant any future versions. Ray, if you add the line #include openssl/opensslv.h along with the other