Re: [whatwg] Mathematics in HTML5

2006-06-17 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sat, 17 Jun 2006, James Graham wrote: > > That's a really particular use case which is hardly representative of > the web as a whole. As sad as it is, 99.9% of authors have no use for > maths (otherwise all these problems would have been solved long ago). > Maths is certainly less of a core f

Re: [whatwg] Mathematics in HTML5

2006-06-17 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sat, 17 Jun 2006, White Lynx wrote: > > "Basic Web application features SHOULD BE IMPLEMENTABLE using behaviors, > scripting, and style sheets IN IE6 TODAY" Given that has been implemented in IE6, I have no worries that an HTML-based Math markup language based on MathML (and creating a Math

Re: [whatwg] Mathematics in HTML5

2006-06-17 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > WHATWG doesn't have a position on this -- different contributors have > > different opinions, and no clear consensus is being reached as far as > > I can tell. > > It has been taken one! The draft of the specification recommends the > usage o

Re: [whatwg] Mathematics in HTML5

2006-06-17 Thread James Graham
Stefan Gössner wrote: Anne van Kesteren wrote: "The core features of an XML vocabulary should require the use of elements from ONLY ONE NAMESPACE." Is math really a core feature? Yes, absolutely .. the upcoming microlearning / nanolearning units inevitably need math. That's a really p

Re: [whatwg] Mathematics in HTML5

2006-06-17 Thread Stefan Gössner
Anne van Kesteren wrote: "The core features of an XML vocabulary should require the use of elements from ONLY ONE NAMESPACE." Is math really a core feature? Yes, absolutely .. the upcoming microlearning / nanolearning units inevitably need math.

Re: [whatwg] Mathematics in HTML5

2006-06-17 Thread White Lynx
Anne van Kesteren wrote: > "Web application technologies SHOULD BE BASED ON technologies > > authors are familiar with, > > including HTML, CSS, DOM, AND JAVASCRIPT" > > As it would work with that, it's not really a problem. > How it will work with CSS? New parsing rules at least does not imp

Re: [whatwg] Mathematics in HTML5

2006-06-17 Thread White Lynx
Michel Fortin wrote: > Yes, sup/sub will work like in HTML. This behavior is not perfect > > in case > > of resizable operators, fences, matrices and vectors however in > > this cases operator limits (llim/ulim) and fence markers (marker/ > > submark) provide necessary functionality. > > That

Re: [whatwg] Mathematics in HTML5

2006-06-17 Thread White Lynx
Oistein E. Andersen wrote: > >>The proposal states that should be used to mark resizable operators, > >>but this presumably does not mean that the size of such operators is > >>actually >>intended to change. > > >It is intended to be larger. > > Yes, but the size is not intended to vary as a f

Re: [whatwg] Mathematics in HTML5

2006-06-17 Thread Michel Fortin
Le 17 juin 2006 à 7:01, White Lynx a écrit : Yes, sup/sub will work like in HTML. This behavior is not perfect in case of resizable operators, fences, matrices and vectors however in this cases operator limits (llim/ulim) and fence markers (marker/ submark) provide necessary functionality.

Re: [whatwg] Mathematics in HTML5

2006-06-17 Thread Øistein E . Andersen
On 16 Jun 2006, at 2:27PM, White Lynx wrote: >Oistein E. Andersen wrote: >>The proposal states that should be used to mark resizable operators, >>but this presumably does not mean that the size of such operators is actually intended to change. >It is intended to be larger. Yes, but the si

Re: [whatwg] Mathematics in HTML5

2006-06-17 Thread Anne van Kesteren
Quoting White Lynx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: "Web application technologies SHOULD BE BASED ON technologies authors are familiar with, including HTML, CSS, DOM, AND JAVASCRIPT" As it would work with that, it's not really a problem. "Basic Web application features SHOULD BE IMPLEMENTABLE using b

Re: [whatwg] Mathematics in HTML5

2006-06-17 Thread White Lynx
James Graham wrote: > > So how does it fit in the scope of fundamental principles upon which > > the WHAT working group intends to operate? > > http://www.w3.org/2004/04/webapps-cdf-ws/papers/opera.html > > > > I don't see anything contradictory there "Web application technologies SHOULD B

Re: [whatwg] Mathematics in HTML5

2006-06-17 Thread White Lynx
Michel Fortin wrote: > Yes, sub/sup will behave like HTML sub/sup with offsets being based > > on font size like it is currently done in HTML implementations, > > while llim/ulim and marker/submark will have offsets based on size > > of their base (operator, fence, matrix etc.) not font size