Re: [whatwg] question on @width and @height attributes on

2010-11-08 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 1:55 AM, Simon Pieters wrote: > On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 15:36:38 +0100, Silvia Pfeiffer > wrote: > >> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 12:16 AM, Simon Pieters wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 08:27:30 +0100, Silvia Pfeiffer >>> wrote: >

Re: [whatwg] question on @width and @height attributes on

2010-11-08 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 12:16 AM, Simon Pieters wrote: > On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 08:27:30 +0100, Silvia Pfeiffer > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I am staring at the @width and @height attributes of the >> element, because I have just noticed that the implementation of

[whatwg] question on @width and @height attributes on

2010-11-07 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
Hi all, I am staring at the @width and @height attributes of the element, because I have just noticed that the implementation of IE9 doesn't respect percentage values in there. I remembered Hixie saying that if you gave them a value that included "px", that's strictly speaking not valid, since th

Re: [whatwg] Timed tracks: feedback compendium

2010-11-05 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: > On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: >> On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 13:49:00 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer >> wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Simon Pieters wrote: >>>> >&

Re: [whatwg] Timed tracks: feedback compendium

2010-10-27 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 13:49:00 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer > wrote: > >> On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Simon Pieters wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 13:09:24 +0200, Philip Jägenstedt >>> wrote

Re: [whatwg] rendering WebSRT cue parts in use for subtitling songs

2010-10-24 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: > On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer > wrote: >> I would expect a style of rendering where all words are first >> displayed in ordinary display and e.g. painted in a different color as >> the time reac

Re: [whatwg] Timed tracks: feedback compendium

2010-10-22 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Simon Pieters wrote: > On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 13:09:24 +0200, Philip Jägenstedt > wrote: > >>> Using is a bad idea since the WebSRT syntax already uses -->. I >>> don't see the need for multiline comments. >> >> Right. If we must have comments I think I'd prefer /*

Re: [whatwg] Timed tracks: feedback compendium

2010-10-22 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Simon Pieters wrote: > On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 11:21:44 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer > wrote: > >> Since the attributes in are a hint, probably what is available >> in the file should overrule what is in the attributes. It is >> the same for th

Re: [whatwg] Timed tracks: feedback compendium

2010-10-22 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 22:35:50 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer > wrote: > >> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Philip Jägenstedt >> wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:30:03 +0200, Simon Pieters >>&

Re: [whatwg] Timed tracks: feedback compendium

2010-10-19 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Odin Omdal Hørthe wrote: > On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 1:19 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: >>> [...] You're also excluding roll-on captions then which is a feature of >>> live broadcasting. >> >> It isn't clear to me that an external file would be a good solution for >> live b

Re: [whatwg] Timed tracks: feedback compendium

2010-10-19 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:30:03 +0200, Simon Pieters wrote: > >> On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:11:16 +0200, Philip Jägenstedt >> wrote: >> >>> The point of a header is that browsers can identify WebSRT files and not >>> keep parsing through a 100

[whatwg] rendering WebSRT cue parts in use for subtitling songs

2010-10-16 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
I've just looked into using WebSRT for subtitling songs where I'm also using it to provide more detailed timing on the individual words within the cue. This can obviously used for Karaoke-style display, but is also very educational for learning the lyrics to a song or even for a deaf person to foll

Re: [whatwg] WebSRT feedback

2010-10-08 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On 08/10/2010, at 1:28 PM, "Philip Jägenstedt" wrote: > On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 13:18:37 -0700, Silvia Pfeiffer > wrote: > >> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 06 Oct 2010 21:37:06 -0700, Silvia Pfeiffer < >&g

Re: [whatwg] WebSRT feedback

2010-10-07 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > On Wed, 06 Oct 2010 21:37:06 -0700, Silvia Pfeiffer < > silviapfeiff...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 10:04 PM, Philip Jägenstedt > >wrote: >> >> >>> Styling hooks were reques

Re: [whatwg] WebSRT feedback

2010-10-06 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 10:04 PM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > > Styling hooks were requested. If we only have the predefined tags (i, b, > ...) and voices, these will most certainly be abused, e.g. resulting in > being used where italics isn't wanted or being used just for > styling, breaking the

Re: [whatwg] Html 5 video element's poster attribute

2010-09-22 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Chris Double wrote: > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer > wrote: > >> Removing the poster attribute is an option to turn the poster off but > >> there is no way to turn it back on again. > > > > You just need

Re: [whatwg] Html 5 video element's poster attribute

2010-09-22 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Chris Double wrote: > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Shiv Kumar > wrote: > > > > No, this won’t work. I don’t want the poster to be shown during a seek so > > the question of showing it until seek completes is moot. > > I think Chris meant that the poster should

Re: [whatwg] Html 5 video element's poster attribute

2010-09-21 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Shiv Kumar wrote: > >I've also stated that I believe that the poster should indeed be > displayed when the video element is just loaded and not on autoplay. And I > have agreed that >there should be a possibility to have that state return > after the video has pl

Re: [whatwg] Html 5 video element's poster attribute

2010-09-21 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:13 AM, Shiv Kumar wrote: > Silvia, > > > > I don’t believe you’ve given is a good reason and use case for not having a > single method the allows turning on and off the poster without any side > effects. > > > > >I haven't seen a case yet that speaks for having this fea

Re: [whatwg] Html 5 video element's poster attribute

2010-09-21 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Shiv Kumar wrote: > >For the pause state you will have to use the onpause event to make any > changes. But to be honest, I doubt anyone would want to show the poster in > >pause state. I have not >seen that anywhere yet and I have come across a > sizeable number

Re: [whatwg] Html 5 video element's poster attribute

2010-09-20 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Shiv Kumar wrote: > Silvia, > > > > How do you supposed the case I mentioned earlier (where when the video is > paused the poster is shown) will work with load()? > For the pause state you will have to use the onpause event to make any changes. But to be honest,

Re: [whatwg] Html 5 video element's poster attribute

2010-09-20 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Chris Pearce wrote: > On 21/09/2010 2:37 p.m., Robert O'Callahan wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Shiv Kumar wrote: > >The only thing that remains then is if web developers would like >> control over the poster, such as to show the poster after th

Re: [whatwg] Html 5 video element's poster attribute

2010-09-20 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Shiv Kumar wrote: > Rob, > > > > >Do you have use-cases where calling "load()" after the video stream ends > would not be a reasonable solution? > > As you can imagine, getting an Html 5 video player to work as expected is > a delicate balance, especially when h

Re: [whatwg] Html 5 video element's poster attribute

2010-09-20 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
'both', which denote when the poster is > shown? Or the values could be enumerated similar to how readyState and > networkState are enumerated. > > > On 20/09/2010 7:57 p.m., Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Shiv Kumar wrote: > >> >Co

Re: [whatwg] Html 5 video element's poster attribute

2010-09-20 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Shiv Kumar wrote: > >Could a call to video.load() reset this state? > > Currently is doesn’t affect the poster. But would that be intuitive? I’m > getting the video element to load it’s source and so the poster will show? > > > > Ideally poster should be an obje

Re: [whatwg] Html 5 video element's poster attribute

2010-09-19 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
Could a call to video.load() reset this state? Silvia. On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Shiv Kumar wrote: > As regards having more control of the poster’s visibility, what I’m > saying is that one should have the ability to turn on/off a poster. > Currently once the poster has been made invi

Re: [whatwg] Html 5 video element's poster attribute

2010-09-19 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 6:53 AM, Shiv Kumar wrote: > I’d like to see the implementation of the poster attribute change to > something that is more useful. By useful I mean something that wroks without > the need for javascript and works the way most people would expect. > > > > Currently the pos

Re: [whatwg] Timed tracks: feedback compendium

2010-09-14 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 15:50:09 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer < > silviapfeiff...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Philip Jägenstedt > >wrote: >> >> On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 01:27:48 +0200

Re: [whatwg] Timed tracks: feedback compendium

2010-09-13 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 01:27:48 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer < > silviapfeiff...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 11:00 PM, Philip Jägenstedt > >wrote: >> >> On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 15:08:

Re: [whatwg] VIDEO Timeupdate event frequency.

2010-09-11 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Robert O'Callahan wrote: > On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: > >> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Robert O'Callahan >> wrote: >> > I think an ideal API for video frame processing would involve handing >> video >> > frames to a Worker for pro

Re: [whatwg] Video with MIME type application/octet-stream

2010-09-10 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Roger Hågensen wrote: > On 2010-09-09 09:24, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > >> On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 02:15:27 +0200, David Singer >> wrote: >> >> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 3:13 PM, And Clover wrote: > Perhaps I *meant* to serve a non-video > file with some

Re: [whatwg] VIDEO Timeupdate event frequency.

2010-09-10 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 12:53 AM, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: > On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 4:05 AM, Silvia Pfeiffer > wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Biju wrote: > >> > >> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=571822 > >> > Firefox

Re: [whatwg] Timed tracks: feedback compendium

2010-09-10 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 11:00 PM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 15:08:43 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer > wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: >> >> >>> On Fri, 23 Jul 2010, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: >>> >>> If

Re: [whatwg] VIDEO Timeupdate event frequency.

2010-09-10 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Biju wrote: > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=571822 > > Firefox fires the timeupdate event once per frame. > > Safari 5 and Chrome 6 fire every 250ms. Opera 10.50 fires every 200ms. > > > Now in firefox bug 571822 they are changing Firefox fires the

Re: [whatwg] ArrayBuffer and ByteArray questions

2010-09-08 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 4:37 AM, Chris Marrin wrote: > > On Sep 8, 2010, at 11:21 AM, Oliver Hunt wrote: > > > > > On Sep 8, 2010, at 11:13 AM, Chris Marrin wrote: > > > >> Web Sockets is certainly another candidate, but I meant Web Workers. > There have been informal discussions on using ArrayBuf

Re: [whatwg] Video with MIME type application/octet-stream

2010-09-01 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 12:38 AM, Boris Zbarsky wrote: > On 9/1/10 9:13 AM, Brian Campbell wrote: > >> It seems that periodically, web standards bodies decide "this time, if >> we're strict, people will just get the content right or it won't work" (such >> as XHTML with XML parsing rules), and inv

Re: [whatwg] Built-in image sprite support in HTML5

2010-08-26 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: > On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer > wrote: > > It would, however, be good to have an indication where HTML would like to > > see it going. Would it be better for a media fragment URI for images

Re: [whatwg] Built-in image sprite support in HTML5

2010-08-25 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: > On Wed, 4 Aug 2010, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: > > > > > > > > However, what exactly happens with a media fragment URI like > > > > http://example.com/picture.png#xywh=160,120,320,240 is not fully > >

Re: [whatwg] Fwd: Discussing WebSRT and alternatives/improvements

2010-08-25 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:39 AM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:39:00 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer < > silviapfeiff...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Philip Jägenstedt > >wrote: >> >> > The question, then, is if parser

Re: [whatwg] loading algorithms

2010-08-25 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
sibly be changed in JavaScript and checking which effects they have in all browsers, i.e. what events they call etc. I wasn't aware that authors are discouraged from changing @src on . On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: > > On Sat, 24 Jul 2010, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote

Re: [whatwg] Fwd: Discussing WebSRT and alternatives/improvements

2010-08-25 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 09:16:56 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer < > silviapfeiff...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:49 PM, Philip Jägenstedt > >wrote: >> >> On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 04:32:21 +0200

Re: [whatwg] Fwd: Discussing WebSRT and alternatives/improvements

2010-08-25 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:49 PM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 04:32:21 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer < > silviapfeiff...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Philip Jägenstedt > >wrote: >> >> Aside: WebSRT can't con

Re: [whatwg] Discussing WebSRT and alternatives/improvements

2010-08-24 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:21 AM, Henri Sivonen wrote: > On Aug 5, 2010, at 18:01, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: > > > I developed WMML as a xml-based caption format that will not have the > problems that have been pointed out for DFXP/TTML, namely: there are no > namespaces, it does

Re: [whatwg] On implementing videos with multiple tracks in HTML5

2010-08-23 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Eric Carlson wrote: > > On Aug 20, 2010, at 5:53 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Eric Carlson wrote: > >> >> On Aug 19, 2010, at 5:23 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: >> >> > >> > * Whet

Re: [whatwg] Fwd: Discussing WebSRT and alternatives/improvements

2010-08-23 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 01:32:49 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer < > silviapfeiff...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:53 PM, Philip Jägenstedt > >wrote: >> >> On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 00:42:04 +0200

Re: [whatwg] Volume and Mute feedback on

2010-08-22 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Nils Dagsson Moskopp < nils-dagsson-mosk...@dieweltistgarnichtso.net> wrote: > Silvia Pfeiffer schrieb am Sat, 21 Aug 2010 > 16:28:07 +1000: > > > Another example is a Web page that has music playing back as constant > > background,

Re: [whatwg] question about canvas globalCompositeOperation

2010-08-21 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
Sorry, forget about this question. I have managed to get it working after all. Apologies, Silvia. On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: > Hi all, > > I've tried to work with the globalCompositeOperation [1] over the last days > for a particular use case where I

[whatwg] question about canvas globalCompositeOperation

2010-08-21 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
Hi all, I've tried to work with the globalCompositeOperation [1] over the last days for a particular use case where I am trying to use a gradient to merge with a canvas as a mask. I now wonder if the globalCompositeOperation is indeed meant to be used this way and what transparency means. For exa

Re: [whatwg] Volume and Mute feedback on

2010-08-20 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: > On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 5:57 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: > >> >> >> On Thu, 10 Jun 2010, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: >> > >> > That requires editing the resource. Think about it from a process >>

Re: [whatwg] On implementing videos with multiple tracks in HTML5

2010-08-20 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Eric Carlson wrote: > > On Aug 19, 2010, at 5:23 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: > > > > > * Whether to include a multiplexed download functionality in browsers for > media resources, where the browser would do the multiplexing of the active &

Re: [whatwg] Volume and Mute feedback on

2010-08-20 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 5:57 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: > > > On Thu, 10 Jun 2010, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: > > > > That requires editing the resource. Think about it from a process > > point-of-view: you're a Web developer and have been given a set of media > >

Re: [whatwg] Fwd: Discussing WebSRT and alternatives/improvements

2010-08-20 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:53 PM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 00:42:04 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer < > silviapfeiff...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Philip Jägenstedt > >wrote: >> >> Yeah, so the only conform

Re: [whatwg] A standard for adaptive HTTP streaming for media resources

2010-08-19 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: > On Tue, 25 May 2010, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: > > > > We've in the past talked about how there is a need to adapt the bitrate > > version of a audio or video resource that is being delivered to a user > > agent

Re: [whatwg] On implementing videos with multiple tracks in HTML5

2010-08-19 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
> When the user chooses to download the full video, the full Matroska file > > is downloaded with no overhead. The downside is the server-side demuxing > > and remuxing; fortunately most users only need to choose once. Also, > > there's the problem of having to download the fu

Re: [whatwg] Timestamp from video source in order to sync (e.g. expose OGG timestamp to javascript)

2010-08-18 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Ian Hickson wrote: > > > On Mon, 24 May 2010, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > > > > I think we both agree but aren't understanding each other very well, or > I'm > > not thinking very clearly. People will write players assuming that > currentTime > > starts at 0 and e

Re: [whatwg] Fwd: Discussing WebSRT and alternatives/improvements

2010-08-17 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 5:12 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: > On 12.08.2010 10:09, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > >> ... >> >> The core "problem" is that WebSRT is far too compatible with existing SRT >> usage. Regardless of the file extension and MIME type used, it's quite >> improbable that anyone will h

Re: [whatwg] Fwd: Discussing WebSRT and alternatives/improvements

2010-08-17 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 02:11:55 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer < > silviapfeiff...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 1:26 AM, Philip Jägenstedt > >wrote: >> >> On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 15:38:32 +0200

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 video dimensions and bitrate

2010-08-13 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Chris Double wrote: > On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 4:05 AM, Zachary Ozer > wrote: > > > > It would still be nice if the made dropped frame information > > available, but that's probably not in the cards. > > > > I have a work in progress bug with patch that adds this

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 video dimensions and bitrate

2010-08-13 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 2:05 AM, Zachary Ozer wrote: > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer > wrote: > > As far as I am aware, the adaptive HTTP streaming approaches work with an > > ordinary HTTP server such as Apache, so do not need anything special on > the

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 video dimensions and bitrate

2010-08-12 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 1:17 AM, Zachary Ozer wrote: > On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer > wrote: > > It's good to have thought this through. I agree, this isn't a workable > > solution, since the whole bandwidth switching logic is introduced into >

Re: [whatwg] Fwd: Discussing WebSRT and alternatives/improvements

2010-08-11 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 1:26 AM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 15:38:32 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer < > silviapfeiff...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Philip Jägenstedt > >wrote: >> >> On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 01:43:01 +0200

Re: [whatwg] Fwd: Discussing WebSRT and alternatives/improvements

2010-08-11 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: > On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 15:09:34 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer < > silviapfeiff...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> HTML and CSS have predefined structures within which their languages grow >> and are able to grow. WebSRT ha

Re: [whatwg] Fwd: Discussing WebSRT and alternatives/improvements

2010-08-11 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 01:43:01 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer < > silviapfeiff...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Philip Jägenstedt > >wrote: >> >> I have checked the parse spec and >

Re: [whatwg] Fwd: Discussing WebSRT and alternatives/improvements

2010-08-11 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: > On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 13:35:30 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer < > silviapfeiff...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Anne van Kesteren >> wrote: >> >>> While players are transitioni

Re: [whatwg] Fwd: Discussing WebSRT and alternatives/improvements

2010-08-11 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: > On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 10:30:23 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer < > silviapfeiff...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Anne van Kesteren >> wrote: >> > > Also, I can see that structur

Re: [whatwg] Fwd: Discussing WebSRT and alternatives/improvements

2010-08-11 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: > On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 01:43:01 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer < > silviapfeiff...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> That's a good approach and will reduce the need for breaking >> backwards-compatibility. In an xml-based f

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 video dimensions and bitrate

2010-08-10 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 2:35 AM, Zachary Ozer wrote: > On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer > wrote: > > Have you looked at the @media attribute? I would suggest to put them > there. > > As that's not currently specified in media queries, you might want to &g

Re: [whatwg] Fwd: Discussing WebSRT and alternatives/improvements

2010-08-10 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 01:34:02 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer < > silviapfeiff...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 12:04 AM, Philip Jägenstedt > >wrote: >> >> On Sat, 07 Aug 2010 09:57:39 +0200

Re: [whatwg] HTML5 video dimensions and bitrate

2010-08-09 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
Have you looked at the @media attribute? I would suggest to put them there. As that's not currently specified in media queries, you might want to demonstrate how it could work and make a proposal to extend the media queries. Cheers, Silvia. On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Zachary Ozer wrote: >

Re: [whatwg] Fwd: Discussing WebSRT and alternatives/improvements

2010-08-09 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 12:04 AM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > On Sat, 07 Aug 2010 09:57:39 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer < > silviapfeiff...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Philip, >> >> On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 1:50 AM, Philip Jägenstedt >> wrote: >> >> * th

Re: [whatwg] text-format discussion from today's call

2010-08-08 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: > > (This is presumably slightly off-topic, for which I apologise. I've set > follow-ups to the WHATWG list.) > > On Sat, 7 Aug 2010, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: > > > > > > However I've looked at w

[whatwg] Fwd: Discussing WebSRT and alternatives/improvements

2010-08-07 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
Hi Philip, On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 1:50 AM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > If @profile should have any influence on the parser it sounds like this > isn't actually XML at all. In particular, the "HTML" would have to be > well-formed XML, but would still end up in the null namespace. Yeah, you are r

Re: [whatwg] Discussing WebSRT and alternatives/improvements

2010-08-07 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 1:50 AM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > Snipping liberally... > > On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 17:01:47 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer < > silviapfeiff...@gmail.com> wrote: > > CONSIDERING EXISTING FORMATS >> > > Note that the subtitling community has

Re: [whatwg] Timed tracks for

2010-08-06 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
Hi Ian, I think there's a typo in the description of the TimedTrack mode at http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/complete/video.html#timed-track-mode. It says: Hidden Indicates that the timed track is active, but that the user agent is not actively displaying the cues. If no attempt

[whatwg] Discussing WebSRT and alternatives/improvements

2010-08-05 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
Hi Ian, all, I'd like to pick up again on the discussion about what file format should be supported as baseline in HTML5 for providing time-synchronized text for media resources. This is particularly important now that we have the WebSRT proposal http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/w

Re: [whatwg] Built-in image sprite support in HTML5

2010-08-03 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
ackground image sprites you > > can have a CSS class that abstracts away the name of the sprite image. > > With tags you would have to specify the URL and height/width > > individually on every sprited image. > > I think the right solution is a fragment identifier. > >

Re: [whatwg] resource selection algorithm and NETWORK_NO_SOURCE

2010-07-27 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 00:01:26 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer < > silviapfeiff...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 1:37 AM, Philip Jägenstedt > >wrote: >> >> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:53:43 +0200

[whatwg] Fwd: Timed tracks for

2010-07-26 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
Some further thoughts on the element. http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/video.html#the-track-element The @kind attribute is currently serving several purposes. This may be ok, but we need to be aware of it and maybe include a note in its description about it. Firstly,

Re: [whatwg] resource selection algorithm and NETWORK_NO_SOURCE

2010-07-26 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 1:37 AM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:53:43 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer < > silviapfeiff...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Philip Jägenstedt > >wrote: >> >> >>> >>>

Re: [whatwg] resource selection algorithm and NETWORK_NO_SOURCE

2010-07-26 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:02:34 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer < > silviapfeiff...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Philip Jägenstedt > >wrote: >> >> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 02:58:07 +0200

Re: [whatwg] resource selection algorithm and NETWORK_NO_SOURCE

2010-07-26 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:12 PM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:53:50 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer < > silviapfeiff...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Philip Jägenstedt > >wrote: >> >> I actually don't think there

Re: [whatwg] resource selection algorithm and NETWORK_NO_SOURCE

2010-07-26 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 02:58:07 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer < > silviapfeiff...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: >> >> >>> On Jul 23, 2010, at 7:16 AM, Phili

Re: [whatwg] resource selection algorithm and NETWORK_NO_SOURCE

2010-07-26 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > I actually don't think there's anything wrong about the spec as it is. > > NETWORK_NO_SOURCE is not a state of failure, it is a waiting state. Here's > what happens as the parser inserts elements into the DOM: > > > > > > > > >

Re: [whatwg] Timed tracks for

2010-07-25 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
ked at were in UTF-8, but in all sorts of other character sets. Another solution to this problem would be to have WebSRT know what charset their characters are in - then we don't need to add such information to the element. It will still not work with legacy SRT files though. ** Then the quest

Re: [whatwg] resource selection algorithm and NETWORK_NO_SOURCE

2010-07-25 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: > > On Jul 23, 2010, at 7:16 AM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > > Silvia made we aware of discrepancy in how browsers implement the resource > selection algorithm, see forwarded message. It's my assessment that Opera is > the only browser foll

Re: [whatwg] Timed tracks for

2010-07-24 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 6:57 AM, Paul Ellis wrote: > On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Henri Sivonen wrote: > >> On Jul 23, 2010, at 08:40, Ian Hickson wrote: >> > - Keep implementation costs for standalone players low. >> >> I think this should be a non-goal. It seems to me that trying to cater

Re: [whatwg] [URL] Starting work on a URL spec

2010-07-23 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
Is that URLs as values of attributes in HTML or is that URLs as pasted into the address bar? I believe their processing differs... Good luck with it, anyway. I'm sure you've seen http://esw.w3.org/UriTesting . Cheers, Silvia. On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 5:11 AM, Adam Barth wrote: > I've begun worki

Re: [whatwg] resource selection algorithm and NETWORK_NO_SOURCE

2010-07-23 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
sn't > NETWORK_NO_SOURCE. > > Test case: http://people.opera.com/philipj/2010/07/23/networkState.html > > Please fix implementation or spec :) > > > -- > Philip Jägenstedt > Core Developer > Opera Software > > --- Forwarded message --- > From: &q

Re: [whatwg] HTMLMediaElement.preload and stalled event

2010-07-22 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
To me, stalled implies that the UA is trying to receive stuff, but is being stalled. So, my understanding is that the resource fetch algorithm in [1] should include the word "unexpectedly" - that would fix it. Then, if no data has been received for more than 3 seconds, the "stalled" event would be

Re: [whatwg] media resources: addressing media fragments through URIs spec

2010-07-06 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Marques Johansson wrote: > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Silvia Pfeiffer > wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> The W3C WG for media fragments has published a Last Call Working Draft >> at http://www.w3.org/TR/media-frags/ . >

Re: [whatwg] media resources: addressing media fragments through URIs spec

2010-07-04 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 4:23 AM, timeless wrote: > On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer > wrote: >> Note that I do understand the need and am trying to explain how it can >> be made to work. Also I am trying to show that what might look as the >> simplest app

Re: [whatwg] media resources: addressing media fragments through URIs spec

2010-07-04 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 2:46 AM, Aryeh Gregor wrote: > On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Silvia Pfeiffer > wrote: >> All of the image formats that you are pointing out have an image mime >> type. I am merely pointing out that to support ogg theora browsers >> would need to s

Re: [whatwg] media resources: addressing media fragments through URIs spec

2010-07-04 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 9:43 PM, timeless wrote: > On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 5:26 AM, silviapfeiffer1 > wrote: >> It doesn't actually matter what element the URI appears in - your >> element has to deal with the data that it receives and if >> "file.ogv#t=1:00,1:15" is an Ogg Theora segment out of a

Re: [whatwg] media resources: addressing media fragments through URIs spec

2010-07-02 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
ent. The whole media fragment URI spec is based on retrieving byte ranges. I'd encourage you to read it and see if it matches your expectations. Cheers, Silvia. > On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 4:55 AM, Silvia Pfeiffer > wrote: >> Actually, a point in time is nothing - it's an em

Re: [whatwg] media resources: addressing media fragments through URIs spec

2010-07-02 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
selected point to the end of the video, given > that most commonly when wanting to point out a particular point in a > video you actually just want to represent a point. > > / Jonas > > On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:46 AM, Silvia Pfeiffer > wrote: >> BTW: I will try and

Re: [whatwg] media resources: addressing media fragments through URIs spec

2010-07-01 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
BTW: I will try and make a screencast of that firefox plugin, which should clarify things further. Stay tuned... Cheers, Silvia. On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: > Hi Jonas, > > On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 4:41 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: >> Hi Silvia, >> >

Re: [whatwg] media resources: addressing media fragments through URIs spec

2010-07-01 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
Hi Jonas, On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 4:41 AM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > Hi Silvia, > > Back in may last year I brought [1] up the fact that there are two use > cases for temporal media fragments: > > 1. Skipping to a particular point in a longer resource, such as > wanting to start a video at a particul

Re: [whatwg] media resources: addressing media fragments through URIs spec

2010-06-30 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 14:11:44 +0200, Silvia Pfeiffer > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> The W3C WG for media fragments has published a Last Call Working Draft >> at http://www.w3.org/TR/media-frags/ . >&g

[whatwg] media resources: addressing media fragments through URIs spec

2010-06-30 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
Hi all, The W3C WG for media fragments has published a Last Call Working Draft at http://www.w3.org/TR/media-frags/ . The idea of the spec is to enable addressing sub-parts of audio-visual resources through URIs, such as http://example.com/video.ogv?t=10,40 to address seconds 10-40 out of video.o

Re: [whatwg] HTML 5 : The Youtube response

2010-06-30 Thread Silvia Pfeiffer
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 7:35 PM, schalk wrote: > Hi there, > > Has anyone/everyone read the blog entry on Youtube’s blog > (http://apiblog.youtube.com/2010/06/flash-and-html5-tag.html) regarding their > feeling about HTML5 video and why they still feel that Flash for video is the > preferred choic

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