Hi,
We would like to request that addCueRange/removeCueRanges be dropped from
the spec before going into Last Call. We are not satisfied with it and
want to see it replaced with a solution that includes (scriptless) timed
text (a.k.a captions/subtitles). I don't think that this will be
I agree with this assessment.
Please note that at this stage this is my personal opinion, since I
haven't discussed it with other Mozilla developers yet.
Regards,
Silvia.
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Philip Jägenstedtphil...@opera.com wrote:
Hi,
We would like to request that
Erik Vorhes writes:
So the definition of cite in HTML5 should currently be title of
work or something that could be construed as a title where one doesn't
exist in the explicit sense of 'title.' But not people's names, even
if they're the citation, because using cite for citations is silly.
On Tue, 4 Aug 2009, Henri Sivonen wrote:
On Aug 3, 2009, at 05:45, Ian Hickson wrote:
Instead of preventing anyone from not using quote marks, I would
instead recommend asking your validator vendor to offer you an option
to require quote marks and warn you when you have forgotten them.
On Tue, 4 Aug 2009, Drew Wilson wrote:
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
It seems like a direct solution to these would be to have a way for
Web pages to expose a service that clients could subscribe to, which
could send up database updates and
On Tue, 4 Aug 2009, Henry Bridge wrote:
With the video tag and web games gaining traction, it seems like there
should be a way for apps to provide fullscreen and better control
schemes to users. Of course, spoofing and clickjacking are major
concerns, but I liked Alpha Omega's suggestion
Ian Hickson wrote:
On Tue, 4 Aug 2009, Drew Wilson wrote:
Sure, although I'd say that persistent storage is
addressed by the Web Storage and Web Database
features. Shared state is also addressed, but that's
not the primary goal. If I have a tree of objects
that I'd like to share
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:59 AM, Smylerssmyl...@stripey.com wrote:
As Ian has pointed out, the above is technically non-conforming with
what the HTML 4 spec claims. But it's how I've been using cite for
years, since it makes sense and has a use.
I defy you to show me in the HTML 4.01
Hi,
please note that with cue ranges removed, the last HTML 5 method to
perform audio subinterval selection is gone.
AFAIK, when dropping support for 'start' and 'end' attributes it was
noted on this list that cue ranges would provide a replacement to
dynamically select, say, a 3-second range
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:34:55 +0200, Dr. Markus Walther walt...@svox.com
wrote:
Hi,
please note that with cue ranges removed, the last HTML 5 method to
perform audio subinterval selection is gone.
AFAIK, when dropping support for 'start' and 'end' attributes it was
noted on this list that
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Erik Vorhese...@textivism.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:59 AM, Smylerssmyl...@stripey.com wrote:
As Ian has pointed out, the above is technically non-conforming with
what the HTML 4 spec claims. But it's how I've been using cite for
years, since it
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:59 AM, Smylerssmyl...@stripey.com wrote:
For words that you wish to have no distinct presentation from the
surrounding text -- words that readers don't need calling out to them as
being in any way 'special' -- simply don't mark them up.
Interesting point. Should the
Erik Vorhes writes:
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:59 AM, Smylerssmyl...@stripey.com wrote:
As Ian has pointed out, the above is technically non-conforming with
what the HTML 4 spec claims. But it's how I've been using cite for
years, since it makes sense and has a use.
I defy you to show
Tab Atkins Jr. writes:
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Aryeh
Gregorsimetrical+...@gmail.com wrote:
I haven't noticed many progress bars on the web
You see them a lot more in the indeterminate form, as a 'spinner'
image or the like. ... I suspect, though, that there are a lot of
13.08.2009, в 4:42, Ian Hickson написал(а):
A note explaining that the close event will be dispatched at server's
discretion (or on subsequent connection timeout), potentially long
time
after close() is called, would likely make the intention clearer.
It won't be long after the close().
Erik Vorhes writes:
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:59 AM, Smylerssmyl...@stripey.com wrote:
For words that you wish to have no distinct presentation from the
surrounding text -- words that readers don't need calling out to
them as being in any way 'special' -- simply don't mark them up.
From http://dev.w3.org/html5/webdatabase/:
The openDatabase() method on the Window and WorkerUtils interfaces
must return a newly constructed Database object that represents the
database requested.
The spec does not make it clear what the UA on an extremely
resource-constrained device (e.g. a
At 10:31 +0200 13/08/09, Philip Jägenstedt wrote:
Hi,
We would like to request that
addCueRange/removeCueRanges be dropped from the
spec before going into Last Call. We are not
satisfied with it and want to see it replaced
with a solution that includes (scriptless) timed
text (a.k.a
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:07 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
Additionally, any server-side-feed-based solution has the implication
that it won't work for offline apps. If I am using a web calendar, I
want my event notifications regardless of whether I'm online or offline
(the event
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:34:47 +0200, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+...@gmail.com
wrote:
I'd think that the author in this use-case is not likely to be happy using
an unstyle-able progress element and getting some kind of unknown
appearance that might clash with their color scheme or such.
You seem
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:07 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
Sure, although I'd say that persistent storage is addressed by the Web
Storage and Web Database features. Shared state is also addressed, but
that's not the primary goal. If I have a tree of objects that I'd like
to share
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 5:13 AM, Mike Wilson mike...@hotmail.com wrote:
Maybe I'm mistaken, but I think Drew wanted handling of
live objects, where each window gets access to the same
concrete objects (possibly protected by private proxy
objects) so the graph can be walked without cloning.
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Aryeh Gregorsimetrical+...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Anne van Kesterenann...@opera.com wrote:
You seem to base most of your argument on that progress will not be
stylable. I think the idea is that it will be stylable though.
Yes, I
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, Nathan Hammond wrote:
With regards to pushState not triggering a hashchange event, I like it,
but I do want to be absolutely sure that all implementers get this
right. So, could we clarify this in the spec? Right now I think that the
spec could be read where since it
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 3:31 AM, David Singersin...@apple.com wrote:
At 10:31 +0200 13/08/09, Philip Jägenstedt wrote:
Hi,
We would like to request that addCueRange/removeCueRanges be dropped from
the spec before going into Last Call. We are not satisfied with it and want
to see it
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, Jenn Braithwaite (�~C��~E��~K~R) wrote:
In the AppCache section of the HTML5 spec, the new wildcard value '*'
for the online whitelist section allows one to 'whitelist all'
regardless of scheme. However, the spec requires a URL in the online
whitelist section to have
Hi Markus,
2009/8/13 Dr. Markus Walther walt...@svox.com:
please note that with cue ranges removed, the last HTML 5 method to
perform audio subinterval selection is gone.
Not quite. You can always use the video.currentTime property in a
javascript to directly jump to a time offset in a video.
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote:
Section 1.4 currently states:
Work on HTML 5 originally started in late 2003, as a proof of concept to
show that it was possible to extend HTML 4's forms to provide many of
the features that XForms 1.0 introduced, without requiring browsers
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote:
I suggest simply deleting It must be admitted that many aspects of HTML
appear at first glance to be nonsensical and inconsistent. I would
disagree with nonsensical, and in any case this sentence adds nothing to
the text.
However if this
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote:
completely serialising the execution of all scripts.
--
serializing (i.e. use the American spelling used throughout the rest of
the document.)
Thanks. Fixed.
--
Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009, Andrew Oakley wrote:
The rules in the HTML5 spec for which plugin to load for an object do
not seem to be followed by any browser, and in some cases are different
to behavior that is common to Opera, Webkit and Gecko (I haven't tested
with IE due to its lack of nsplugin
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009, Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote:
This specification defines an abstract language for describing
documents and applications, and some APIs for interacting with in-memory
representations of resources that use this language.
The phrase abstract language concerns me. It's not
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009, Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote:
Section 1.7:
The first such concrete syntax is HTML5. This is the format
recommended for most authors. It is compatible with all legacy Web
browsers.
I challenge the claim that HTML5 is compatible with *all* legacy Web
browsers. I can
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:10 PM, Ian Hicksoni...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009, Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote:
This specification defines an abstract language for describing
documents and applications, and some APIs for interacting with in-memory
representations of resources that use this
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009, Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote:
The first such concrete syntax is HTML5. This is the format
recommended for most authors. It is compatible with all legacy Web
browsers. If a document is transmitted with the MIME type text/html,
then it will be processed as an HTML5
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009, Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote:
Section 1.9 uses this DOCTYPE twice:
!DOCTYPE HTML
Unless the intention is to demonstrate case-insensisitivity, which
doesn't seem to be the case since that's not otherwise mentioned in this
section, I think this should be:
!DOCTYPE
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009, Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote:
I suggest deleting the parenthetical remark (they are in the
per-element partition). I'm not sure what this term means. I've never
encountered either partition or per-element partition in an XML
namespace context before.
It was a term from
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009, Cready, James wrote:
Is there any good reason why a script tag with the src attribute
specified can�t be self-closing?
No elements in text/html can be self-closing. In the case of script in
particular, allowing it would be a compatibility problem at best and a
security
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009, Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote:
Applications and tools that process HTML and XHTML documents for reasons
other than to either render the documents or check them for conformance
should act in accordance to the semantics of the documents that they
process.
2.2 editorial
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009, Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote:
In particular, the algorithms defined in this specification are
intended to be easy to follow, and not intended to be performant.
Yech. The recently coined word performant just grates on my ears; and
I'm not the only one as a Google search
In section 4.10.4.1.4 URL state, the text reads:
The input element represents a control for editing a single absolute
URL given in the element's value.
If the is mutable, the user agent should allow the user to change the
URL represented by its value.
I believe that last line should read:
If
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009, Darin Adler wrote:
6.9.4, paragraph 7 says, �applications caches never include fragment
identifiers� and I think this should just be �application caches�.
Fixed, thanks.
--
Ian Hickson U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL
http://ln.hixie.ch/
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009, Kevin Benson wrote:
In section 4.10.4.1.4 URL state, the text reads:
The input element represents a control for editing a single absolute
URL given in the element's value.
If the is mutable, the user agent should allow the user to change the
URL represented by its
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