James Graham wrote:
They have to use LaTeX to prepare documents
for publication,
it is the only language they know for typesetting
mathematics and, in general, the web is not their major target medium.
However, for current markup proposal, web is major target medium,
which means that if
James Graham wrote:
I assume you meant to send this to the list.
Oops, I missed the on-list copy. Sorry.
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James Graham wrote:
However,
elsewhere on this thread you have convinced me that a lot of CSS work is
needed
before it can display maths with any degree of complexity in a pleasant
manner
without requiring extensive, per-formula, adjustments to the style properties
that would produce
[ Sorry for the delayed reply guys, being quite busy for a week and I have
to do some catching up on this thread. ]
Le Thu, 01 Jun 2006 19:22:50 +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
a écrit:
Michel Fortin wrote:
One thing I know however is that the next time I'll have to put an
equation on a web
Le Thu, 01 Jun 2006 21:25:49 +0300, James Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit:
But authors _will_not_ learn anything other than LaTeX.
Authors will learn something else _if_ that's proven to be better. Yes,
it's true authors don't generally jump on whatever comes new (that's the
reason
White Lynx wrote:
James Graham wrote:
However,
elsewhere on this thread you have convinced me that a lot of CSS work is needed
before it can display maths with any degree of complexity in a pleasant manner
without requiring extensive, per-formula, adjustments to the style properties
that
Le Tue, 06 Jun 2006 17:22:11 +0300, Michel Fortin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit:
Maybe a number element would be valuable, both inside and outside
formulas, to provide format-neutral machine-readable numeric values:
n value=123456789.12123 456 789,12/n
But it surly seems a little
Le 5 juin 2006 à 9:51, White Lynx a écrit :
Sketch of the proposal is available, comments are welcome.
At this stage prose is far from being polished, but I hope it is
readable.
Ok, so let's comment. First I'd say I like the path you've taken. I
like the fact that you make it easy to
Quoting White Lynx [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I think you make a compelling case for adding math to HTML the simple
way. Personally, I'm open to adding it to HTML5. How much would it add
to the specification?
Description of math markup tends to grow larger that it was
originally expected, but I
Quoting Michel Fortin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I would also use f instead of formula (as Juan used in one of his
example), because it's shorter and fits well with many other wildly
used container elements: p, h1-h6, ol, ul, li, dl, dt,
and dd.
This would only work if it would in fact be wildly used.
Quoting Michel Fortin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Maybe a number element would be valuable, both inside and outside
formulas, to provide format-neutral machine-readable numeric values:
n value=123456789.12123 456 789,12/n
So the machine can just infer the format inside from the locale. The
only
On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 23:09:57 +0700, Michel Fortin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would also use f instead of formula (as Juan used in one of his
example), because it's shorter and fits well with many other wildly used
container elements: p, h1-h6, ol, ul, li, dl, dt, and
dd.
Why have f at
On Wed, 7 Jun 2006, Mihai Sucan wrote:
Yes, it's true authors don't generally jump on whatever comes new
(that's the reason MathML is not as widely used as LaTeX).
I would say MathML is not widely used because MathML doesn't work in HTML,
personally. If we made MathML work in HTML, possibly
[originally sent privately by mistake; sorry Ian.]
Ian Hickson wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jun 2006, Mihai Sucan wrote:
Yes, it's true authors don't generally jump on whatever comes new
(that's the reason MathML is not as widely used as LaTeX).
I would say MathML is not widely used because MathML
Le 7 juin 2006 à 12:46, Anne van Kesteren a écrit :
Quoting Michel Fortin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I would also use f instead of formula (as Juan used in one of his
example), because it's shorter and fits well with many other wildly
used container elements: p, h1-h6, ol, ul, li, dl,
dt,
and dd.
Also sprach Martin Atkins:
I would say MathML is not widely used because MathML doesn't work in
HTML, personally. If we made MathML work in HTML, possibly with rules
that make the syntax easier (by implying tags as I suggested earlier),
then that might well change, especially given
On Mon, 5 Jun 2006, White Lynx wrote:
Ian Hickson wrote:
What we need, to move forwards on this, would be a full proposal for
what you want added to HTML5. Currently this thread seems mostly to be
along the lines of we should add maths, but we shouldn't make it
hard.
Sketch of
A couple weeks ago I was at XTech and talked with some Opera developers
about the possibility of standardizing a method of doing web widgets
similar to the current Opera widgets (and somewhat similar to Dashboard
widgets). I am planning on implementing a similar widget functionality for
On Jun 7, 2006, at 20:54, Ian Hickson wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jun 2006, Mihai Sucan wrote:
Yes, it's true authors don't generally jump on whatever comes new
(that's the reason MathML is not as widely used as LaTeX).
I would say MathML is not widely used because MathML doesn't work
in HTML,
On Thu, 8 Jun 2006, Henri Sivonen wrote:
If we made MathML work in HTML, possibly with rules that make the
syntax easier (by implying tags as I suggested earlier)
The implied stuff seems scary. I was hoping for no more tag inference
beyond HTML 4 legacy.
Oh? Why?
FWIW, I
On Wed, 7 Jun 2006, Michel Fortin wrote:
I'd like to try something a little simpler. So here is my idea for a
math markup.
I would be very cautious about introducing an entirely new language to do
this (even if it is just an extension of HTML4). For something as big as
Mathematics, we want
* Ian Hickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-06-08 00:28+]
On Wed, 7 Jun 2006, Michel Fortin wrote:
I'd like to try something a little simpler. So here is my idea for a
math markup.
I would be very cautious about introducing an entirely new language to do
this (even if it is just an
Michel Fortin wrote:
n dec=,123 456 789,12/n
...
n base=16329F 2CA0/n
What about using it to mark up roman numerals as well? Or, I guess, any
other number system in the world?
nMMVI/n
Of course, people could use the roman numerals in Unicode: U+2160 to
U+2183, but most people
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