[whatwg] The truth about Nokias claims

2007-12-11 Thread Shannon
, as many have requested - AS IS APPROPRIATE! Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [whatwg] persistent storage changes

2007-12-11 Thread Shannon
)? Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ian Hickson wrote: I just checked in a change to make globalStorage far simpler -- I dropped all the domain manipulation stuff, and made it same-origin instead. I also dropped StorageItem and just made the Storage stuff return strings.

Re: [whatwg] several messages regarding Ogg in HTML5

2007-12-12 Thread Shannon
on this? I know that's a lot of questions but I feel they SHOULD be answered rather than simply attacking the Ogg format. Shannon

Re: [whatwg] The truth about Nokias claims

2007-12-13 Thread Shannon
the format of the cite tag to me. Shannon

Re: [whatwg] The truth about Nokias claims

2007-12-14 Thread Shannon
importance and therefore not a reason to shut down the debate. Shannon

Re: [whatwg] The truth about Nokias claims

2007-12-14 Thread Shannon
are altruistic (sorry Dave). Shannon

Re: [whatwg] The truth about Nokias claims

2007-12-14 Thread Shannon
the fact the formats in question were believed to be public-domain. However, I acknowledge the speculative nature of this as I acknowledge the speculative nature of your other claims (like browser manufactures not supporting OGG when the spec becomes final). Shannon

Re: [whatwg] The truth about Nokias claims

2007-12-14 Thread Shannon
' as a corporation to wreck standards for the benefit of their shareholders? They sound very reasonable, until you realise that one way or another the public will be paying for it. Shannon

Re: [whatwg] The truth about Nokias claims

2007-12-14 Thread Shannon
if the vendors refuse. Which right now is Ogg. Shannon

Re: [whatwg] The truth about Nokias claims

2007-12-14 Thread Shannon
discussions and I'll concede your point (and join - it is public, and free right?) Ok so I found the other list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Nokia state their reasons and clearly it was discussed (at Cambridge apparently) but why two lists for one standard? Shannon

[whatwg] The political and legal status of WHATWG

2007-12-14 Thread Shannon
then please don't just answer them here. Anything short of a formal document on the WHATWG can't possibly represent the group as a whole and is just going to be raised again anyway. In other words the mailling list is not the best place to archive these answers (if any are forthcoming). Shannon

[whatwg] public-html list

2007-12-14 Thread Shannon
Ian Hickson wrote: On Sat, 15 Dec 2007, Shannon wrote: Ok so I found the other list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Nokia state their reasons and clearly it was discussed (at Cambridge apparently) but why two lists for one standard? Historical reasons -- the W3C initially wasn't interested

Re: [whatwg] The political and legal status of WHATWG

2007-12-14 Thread Shannon
an IMPOSSIBLE condition as a method for 'moving forward' and then expect people to take your claims seriously. Shannon

Re: [whatwg] The truth about Nokias claims

2007-12-15 Thread Shannon
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Re: [whatwg] The political and legal status of WHATWG

2007-12-19 Thread Shannon
said all that I don't want this thread to continue the video codec discussion. What I want is a clearer position statement from WHATWG on the publics role in defining this specification. Shannon

Re: [whatwg] The political and legal status of WHATWG

2007-12-19 Thread Shannon
. A legal contract signed by members and defining rules and penalties for non-compliance would be a step in that direction. I don't think the public are prepared to accept promises anymore. Shannon

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for a link attribute to replace a href

2008-02-28 Thread Shannon
thing - only *simpler* (no scripting, events, bubbling, etc). So on all counts I find the claims in the FAQ incorrect and urge the WHATWG and browser vendors to reconsider the inclusion of a global link or href attribute. Shannon

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for a link attribute to replace a href

2008-02-28 Thread Shannon
Pawe? Stradomski wrote: W li?cie Shannon z dnia czwartek 28 lutego 2008: How should nested links work? Suppose I put href=http://a; on p element and href=http://b; on a span inside that p. What should happen when the user clicks on that span? That's the reason why nested a's are forbidden

Re: [whatwg] Thoughts on HTML 5

2008-03-03 Thread Shannon
Dnia 01-03-2008, So o godzinie 19:36 -0800, Nicholas C. Zakas pisze: Perhaps it would better be named callout/? Aside is customary in dialogue annotations, I have never seen any callout. Chris Call it note. It may sound crude but it's hard to mistake its meaning. Shannon

Re: [whatwg] several messages about cite

2008-04-14 Thread Shannon
this purpose already. It also has less potential for conflicts than the type attribute since I have only ever seen rel used in the header whereas type has existing meaning for input fields and script tags. cite rel=book class=small blueThe Neutronium Alchemist/cite Shannon

Re: [whatwg] several messages about cite

2008-04-14 Thread Shannon
consideration. Shannon

Re: [whatwg] several messages about cite

2008-04-15 Thread Shannon
on a page. Shannon

Re: [whatwg] several messages about cite

2008-04-15 Thread Shannon
: - 4 book citations - 2 book_class citations - 1 squiggly_underline citations Hope that makes my position on this clearer. If I misunderstood somebodies comments then I apologise. Shannon

Re: [whatwg] ALT and equivalent representation

2008-04-18 Thread Shannon
half a chance. Shannon

Re: [whatwg] ALT and equivalent representation

2008-04-19 Thread Shannon
worth of keywords in there. You can add insanity to the problems facing blind users on the web! Shannon

Re: [whatwg] ALT and equivalent representation

2008-04-20 Thread Shannon
in an altgroup are unavailable then display the value of the altgroup tag. The alt attribute would then be optional where altgroup is defined but required in all other cases. Shannon

Re: [whatwg] ALT and equivalent representation

2008-04-20 Thread Shannon
Shannon wrote: What about this as a possible solution? img src=part1.png altgroup=rating img src=part2.png altgroup=rating img src=part3.png altgroup=rating altgroup id=rating value=3/5 I don't think this would raise any serious implementation issues as the logic is quite simple; Bill

Re: [whatwg] ALT and equivalent representation

2008-04-21 Thread Shannon
of alt optional as far as formal validation is concerned. If you are implying a group can be denoted by being at the same block level or in the correct order in the stream (no intervening images) then I doubt that would work in practice. Shannon

Re: [whatwg] ALT and equivalent representation

2008-04-21 Thread Shannon
consideration for blind users. It is this situation I am trying to avoid. A valid document should provide valid alt information, not empty ones. An altgroup supports this - empty alt tags do not. Shannon

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for a link attribute to replace a href

2008-05-30 Thread Shannon
on browser vendors? Unlikely. It's behaviour is nearly identical to onclick=window.location=foo which is already supported on the majority of modern browsers except Lynx. Is denying designers features they want going to increase standards compliance? No. It will reduce compliance. Regards, Shannon

Re: [whatwg] TCPConnection feedback

2008-06-17 Thread Shannon
to stop serving requests? Would this work through Tor? Shannon

Re: [whatwg] TCPConnection feedback

2008-06-18 Thread Shannon
and gadgets. Shannon

Re: [whatwg] TCPConnection feedback

2008-06-18 Thread Shannon
it is important to remember that these sockets will enable full read/write access to arbitrary services whereas existing methods can only write once per connection and generally not do anything useful with the response. Shannon

Re: [whatwg] Web Sockets

2008-07-21 Thread Shannon
that Javascript can open, read, write and close a connection object and handle errors in a consistent manner. The handshaking requirement and new headers appear to complicate matters rather than help. Shannon

Re: [whatwg] Web Sockets

2008-07-23 Thread Shannon
to the points I've made I will put time into reframing my objections as a compete specification proposal. Shannon

Re: [whatwg] Web Sockets

2008-07-23 Thread Shannon
on these ports (multiple web servers, shared host, tunnelled connections, 2 websocket apps on one host, etc...). My mistake. I misread this as *requiring* port 81 and 815. It appears that is not the case. All ports are valid. Shannon

Re: [whatwg] Web Sockets

2008-07-23 Thread Shannon
rules out both CGI and proxy support entirely since it cannot handle the addition of otherwise valid HTTP headers (such as Expires, X-Forwarded-For or Date) in the first 85 bytes. Shannon

Re: [whatwg] Thoughts on HTML 5

2008-07-30 Thread Shannon
Ian Hickson wrote: On Sat, 8 Mar 2008, Nicholas C. Zakas wrote: From: Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dnia 01-03-2008, So o godzinie 19:36 -0800, Nicholas C. Zakas pisze: Perhaps it would better be named callout/? Aside is customary in dialogue annotations, I have never

Re: [whatwg] video element now working in Firefox nightlies

2008-07-31 Thread Shannon
though, since it was apparently finalised in January. Is this being planned? Would any other vendors care to comment on Dirac? Shannon

[whatwg] Joined blocks

2008-07-31 Thread Shannon
be a significant rewrite of current parsers. I accept this proposal may be difficult to implement but its use case is significant with regards to articles and blogs, especially in an era of user-submitted content and wide screen layouts. Shannon

Re: [whatwg] Joined blocks

2008-07-31 Thread Shannon
this block follows that one. Nonetheless I will do as you suggest. Shannon Ian Hickson wrote: On Fri, 1 Aug 2008, Shannon wrote: Something I think is really missing from HTML is linked text (in the traditional desktop publishing sense), where two or more text boxes are joined so that content

Re: [whatwg] Joined blocks

2008-08-02 Thread Shannon
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. Already done. The topic is currently waiting on moderation. Shannon

[whatwg] WebWorkers vs. Threads

2008-08-09 Thread Shannon
to achieve something that every other major language already provides. Shannon

Re: [whatwg] WebWorkers vs. Threads

2008-08-10 Thread Shannon
Jonas Sicking wrote: Shannon wrote: I've been following the WebWorkers discussion for some time trying to make sense of the problems it is trying to solve. I am starting to come to the conclusion that it provides little not already provided by: setTimeout(mainThreadFunc,1) setTimeout

Re: [whatwg] WebWorkers vs. Threads

2008-08-12 Thread Shannon
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[whatwg] WebWorker questions

2008-08-12 Thread Shannon
running on seperate threads or even sets of threads per open tab/window)? Shannon

Re: [whatwg] WebWorkers vs. Threads

2008-08-13 Thread Shannon
Jonas Sicking wrote: Shannon wrote: I've been following the WebWorkers discussion for some time trying to make sense of the problems it is trying to solve. I am starting to come to the conclusion that it provides little not already provided by: setTimeout(mainThreadFunc,1) setTimeout

Re: [whatwg] WebWorkers vs. Threads

2008-08-14 Thread Shannon
(removing any custom properties they might have been given). Marshalling everything through Unicode strings is a terrible idea. Shannon

Re: [whatwg] WebWorkers vs. Threads

2008-08-14 Thread Shannon
Shannon wrote: Think about the kind of applications that use parallel compute nodes and you'll realise that 98% don't exist outside of academia and laboratories due to synchronisation, network latencies and other issues that implementing Javascript workers won't solve. More importantly though

[whatwg] Client-side includes proposal

2008-08-18 Thread Shannon
that allowed untrusted users to write their own head tags to be incurable insecure; however this requirement should ensure that the majority do not suddenly experience a wave of new exploits in HTML5 browsers. Shannon

Re: [whatwg] Client-side includes proposal

2008-08-18 Thread Shannon
Ian Hickson wrote: On Mon, 18 Aug 2008, Shannon wrote: The discussion on seamless iframes reminded me of something I've felt was missing from HTML - an equivalent client functionality to server-side includes as provided by PHP, Coldfusion and SSI. What advantage does this have over

Re: [whatwg] Client-side includes proposal

2008-08-18 Thread Shannon
endlessly. I'm just stating my case for going ahead with this feature. Shannon

Re: [whatwg] Client-side includes proposal

2008-08-18 Thread Shannon
is massive effort, client-side includes is quite trivial, relatively speaking. Certainly worth further investigation in light of its obvious benefits. Shannon

Re: [whatwg] Client-side includes proposal

2008-08-19 Thread Shannon
be specific to HTML as a rendering protocol. I've offered many good arguments for this proposal. The rest depends on those arguments being weighed across your claims of alternatives and implementation problems. You should have a pretty good idea how I view those arguments by now. Shannon

Re: [whatwg] number-related feedback

2008-08-21 Thread Shannon
integers and consistently call the full range integer and the positive range integer greater than 0? Shannon

Re: [whatwg] Ghosts from the past and the semantic Web

2008-08-27 Thread Shannon
be useful. Since it can reuse existing CSS parsers, editors and behaviour (selectors, cascading model) it should have a lower implementation burden than XML+Namespaces. Shannon

Re: [whatwg] Ghosts from the past and the semantic Web

2008-08-27 Thread Shannon
Ben Adida wrote: Shannon wrote: I think you were on to something with the CSS-like approach. Ian has stated earlier that class should be considered a generic categorisation element rather than only a CSS hook. Three things: 1) specifying the semantics only in a separate file rules

Re: [whatwg] Ghosts from the past and the semantic Web

2008-08-29 Thread Shannon
Ben Adida wrote: Shannon wrote: link rel=vocabulary href=http://some.official.vocabulary/1.1/metadata.cm; Not workable, as this in the HEAD of the document and oftentimes we simply can't expect users to be able to modify the head of the document (widgets, blog engines where you can

Re: [whatwg] Generic Metadata Mechanisms (RDFa feedback summary wiki page)

2008-09-10 Thread Shannon
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Re: [whatwg] Generic Metadata Mechanisms (RDFa feedback summary wiki page)

2008-09-10 Thread Shannon
Ian Hickson wrote: On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, Shannon wrote: I would like to restore the pros and cons. I just merged the non-obvious ones into the text and removed the obvious ones. Merging pros and cons into the opening paragraph is a poor design choice. It makes it more difficult

Re: [whatwg] WebSocket support in HTML5

2008-09-21 Thread Shannon
as an asynchronous binary TCP socket. What exactly are you concerned about? Shannon

Re: [whatwg] Simplified WebSockets

2008-10-12 Thread Shannon
header. Shannon

[whatwg] WebSocket and proxies

2008-10-13 Thread Shannon
would resolve the cross-domain issues (the CGI can relay the actual service via a backend connection) and most of the proxy issues above (since proxy GET and CONNECT are more reliable on these ports). Shannon

Re: [whatwg] Workers feedback

2008-11-13 Thread Shannon
to flag if a cleanup operation failed to complete. Storage and Database interfaces are too heavy for the purpose of simple data like this. Shannon

Re: [whatwg] Workers feedback

2008-11-16 Thread Shannon
Ian Hickson wrote: On Fri, 14 Nov 2008, Shannon wrote: I don't see any value in the user-agent specified amount of time delay in stopping scripts. How can you write cleanup code when you have no consistency in how long it gets to run (or if it runs at all)? The user-agent

[whatwg] Persistent storage is critically flawed.

2006-08-27 Thread Shannon Baker
be fixed or removed. Shannon Web Developer

Re: [whatwg] Persistent storage is critically flawed.

2006-08-28 Thread Shannon Baker
DATA foo.bar baz kj43h545j34h6jk534dfytyf A string. Just one idea. Shannon Web Developer

Re: [whatwg] Persistent storage is critically flawed.

2006-08-29 Thread Shannon Baker
. On the other hand if Jim is right and the authors of the storage proposal are really just pushing for a better user-tracking system under the guise of a user feature then this argument is already over. Do whatever you like and I'll make sure it's turned off in my browser. Shannon Web Developer

Re: [whatwg] Codecs for audio and video

2009-07-01 Thread Adam Shannon
of Trojan codecs: it would help if third-party plug-ins for codecs could be sandboxed so that they cannot have access to anything they do not have to access in order to do their job, and only via an API provided by the host. IMHO, Chris -- - Adam Shannon ( http://ashannon.us )

Re: [whatwg] Codecs for audio and video

2009-07-02 Thread Adam Shannon
there is a black screen (or still image), even though they can hear the audio. -Charles -- - Adam Shannon ( http://ashannon.us )

Re: [whatwg] autobuffer on new Audio objects

2009-07-05 Thread Adam Shannon
for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and by his wounds we are healed. We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way; and the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all. [Isaiah 53:5-6] -- - Adam Shannon ( http://ashannon.us )

Re: [whatwg] autobuffer on new Audio objects

2009-07-05 Thread Adam Shannon
On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.orgwrote: On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Adam Shannon ashannon1...@gmail.comwrote: What about slower, public, or WIFI connections that can't support 5 people going to yahoo.com and having audio of interviews load? Yahoo

Re: [whatwg] Codecs for audio and video -- informative note?

2009-07-05 Thread Adam Shannon
/2009-July/ ) -jJ -- - Adam Shannon ( http://ashannon.us )

Re: [whatwg] Codecs for audio and video -- informative note?

2009-07-06 Thread Adam Shannon
decline to do it. -- - Adam Shannon ( http://ashannon.us )

Re: [whatwg] Make Vorbis a baseline codec for audio

2009-07-15 Thread Adam Shannon
* Vorbis is widely adopted by major companies in portable media players * Vorbis is royalty-free It has been tried but Apple will not implement it due to hardware limitations. Remco -- - Adam Shannon ( http://ashannon.us )

Re: [whatwg] Removing versioning from HTML

2009-08-09 Thread Adam Shannon
never cut things off then the spec will really never be finished before 2020. I agree that somethings can be reopened but there are also some which have been resolved and any new discussions are coming a year++ later. -- - Adam Shannon ( http://ashannon.us )

Re: [whatwg] Removing versioning from HTML

2009-08-09 Thread Adam Shannon
of development. -- - Adam Shannon ( http://ashannon.us )

Re: [whatwg] Multipage spec

2009-09-30 Thread Adam Shannon
faster to work with, and I'm sure I'm not alone.  So hopefully it can be brought back to life some time soon? Cheers, Remy Sharp -- - Adam Shannon ( http://ashannon.us )

Re: [whatwg] [Input type=submit] Disable after submitting

2010-01-26 Thread Adam Shannon
) button in HTML to be clicked more than once or is this clearly a behavior (and therefore be solved with JS)? Regards -- Adam Shannon Web Developer http://ashannon.us

Re: [whatwg] Subtitles, captions, and other tracks augmenting video or audio

2010-04-17 Thread Adam Shannon
http://ln.hixie.ch/       U+263A                /,   _.. \   _\  ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer.   `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.' -- Adam Shannon Web Developer http://ashannon.us

Re: [whatwg] input type=ink proposal

2010-06-08 Thread Adam Shannon
profile, a user submits a simple doodle as their avatar. Use Case: To quickly log into an online system, a user scribbles a password, which their server tests for fidelity to their prior scribbled input. -Charles -- Adam Shannon Web Developer http://ashannon.us

Re: [whatwg] input type=location proposals

2010-06-18 Thread Adam Shannon
/Long coordinates which can be entered either manually or with some kind of map like interface. These are two separate proposals and I both could co-exist one as type=location and the other as type=gps -- Eitan Adler -- Adam Shannon Web Developer http://ashannon.us

Re: [whatwg] input type=location proposals

2010-06-18 Thread Adam Shannon
, Adam Shannon a...@ashannon.us wrote: How would the browser assist you?  Would you start to type in new yor and it would drop down a list giving you options? How will browsers get the list (and future) lists which have to be customized to the input?  Remote listing?  Buit-in database? On Fri

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for IsSearchProviderInstalled / AddSearchProvider

2011-05-16 Thread Adam Shannon
asking for permission to be the default.) -- Adam Shannon Web Developer University of Northern Iowa Sophomore -- Computer Science B.S. http://ashannon.us

Re: [whatwg] Proposal for IsSearchProviderInstalled / AddSearchProvider

2011-05-16 Thread Adam Shannon
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 18:39, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Mon, 16 May 2011, Adam Shannon wrote: I don't like having the only barrier between changing the default search engine for a user's browser be a single dialog box. This list (and others) have repeatedly found that dialogs don't