On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Adam Barth w...@adambarth.com wrote:
Regardless, the ability does not exist in JavaScriptCore. If you'd
like to contribute a patch that makes it possible, I'm sure it would
be warmly received.
That is surprising to me. Isn't it necessary in order to implement
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Oliver Hunt oli...@apple.com wrote:
In a lot of cases all you want to do is ignore NaN and Infinite values,
otherwise you basically have to prepend every call to canvas with NaN and
Infinity checks if you're computing values unless you can absolutely
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 12:43 AM, Oliver Hunt oli...@apple.com wrote:
The various html collections aren't fixed length, they're not assignable, so
they can't used interchangeably with arrays at the best of times.
Array generics work on arrays that aren't fixed-length, perhaps
obviously, and I
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 4:48 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote:
These days, though, all major browsers have javascript consoles which
you can bring up and paste that into.
That doesn't typically apply to content tabs or windows, though.
I have a couple of questions:
What is the
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Luke Hutchison luke.hu...@mit.edu wrote:
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Mike Shaver mike.sha...@gmail.com wrote:
What is the proposed change to which specification, exactly? URL-bar
behaviour, especially input permission, seem out of scope for the
specs
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Nils Dagsson Moskopp
nils-dagsson-mosk...@dieweltistgarnichtso.net wrote:
(clients try to guess based on
incorrect information and you end up with stupid switches).
Could you be more specific about the incorrect information? My
understanding, from this thread
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Nils Dagsson Moskopp
nils-dagsson-mosk...@dieweltistgarnichtso.net wrote:
Mike Shaver mike.sha...@gmail.com schrieb am Wed, 21 Jul 2010
09:15:18 -0400:
and furthermore that the appropriate MIME type
for ogg-with-VP8 vs ogg-with-theora isn't clear (or possibly
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Chris Double chris.dou...@double.co.nz wrote:
How much data are you willing to sniff to find out if the Ogg file
contains Theora and/or Vorbis? You have to read the header packets
contained within the Ogg file to get this.
A few kilobytes certainly seems
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:15:18 +0200, Mike Shaver mike.sha...@gmail.com
wrote:
Could you be more specific about the incorrect information? My
understanding, from this thread and elsewhere, is that video formats
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote:
Right, sniffing is currently only done in the context of video, at least
in Opera. The problem could be fixed by adding more sniffing, certainly.
A warning that you're about to open a 5MB text document might be
humane
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Chris Double
chris.dou...@double.co.nz wrote:
When content sniffing are we ignoring the mime type served by the
server and always sniffing? If so then incorrectly configured servers
can result in more downloaded data due to having to read the data
looking for
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Chris Double
chris.dou...@double.co.nz wrote:
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 2:15 AM, Mike Shaver mike.sha...@gmail.com wrote:
...I would probably suggest that the
developers of said browser implement basic Ogg support (enough to say
this is Ogg, so we don't support
One advantage is almost the same as your footnote: JavaScript source is
permitted in the values of many attributes, and can certainly contain the
operator.
On Jun 25, 2010 12:34 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu
wrote:
On 06/25/2010 11:50 AM, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
It seems like
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Ashley Sheridan
a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote:
I think it's quite a fringe case. What about things that are more used:
type=number - a browser could aid input with some sort of spinner
type=price - a browser could use the locale to select a monetary format,
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote:
The WHATWG has a steering council made up of browser developers.
Officially, they can override Ian's decisions or make him step down as
editor. They've never had to exercise this power yet, though.
Could you elaborate
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
I value technical merit even higher than convergence.
How is technical merit assessed? Removing Theora from the
specification, for example, seems like it was for political rather
than technical reasons, if I understand how you
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Ashley Sheridan
a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote:
On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 17:09 -0400, Aryeh Gregor wrote:
type=number has been in the spec for years.
Do you have a link to this to verify?
http://dev.w3.org/html5/markup/input.number.html is the fourth hit for
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote:
Bottom of the charter: http://www.whatwg.org/charter
I believe the decision process is knife fight to first blood.
Editors should reflect the consensus opinion of the working group
when writing their specifications,
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote:
How
can one learn of the technical motivations of decisions such as the
change to require ImageData for Canvas,
On the WHATWG wiki a Rationale page is being assembled by a volunteer
(don't know their name, but they
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote:
I wasn't precise in my language - don't read too much into my exact wording.
No, certainly; I'm much more interested in the spirit here than the
wording, since it doesn't match my experience or understanding. I'll
take
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm pretty sure they won't be. Any significant implementer has always
had veto power over the spec.
I fear that simply refusing to implement is indeed the WHATWG's
equivalent of how Tab described FO-threats in the
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.org wrote:
Who from Mozilla objected? I didn't object, because I thought Ian's approach
(manifests) was better than ours (JAR files). And I thought ours was quite
different from Gears' (which used manifests, IIRC).
There were
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Ashley Sheridan
a...@ashleysheridan.co.ukwrote:
On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 10:37 -0400, Simpson, Grant Leyton wrote:
Are you wanting the user to manually enter the filename, including the
file:// scheme? If not, are you envisioning the file dialog box to provide
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Ashley Sheridan
a...@ashleysheridan.co.ukwrote:
Yes, and the rest of my email said that.
Sorry, I am not familiar with KIO, and didn't see the need for OS support.
KIO slaves on KDE work just like that. It's not something that I think a
user agent can
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 11:45 AM, John Tamplin j...@google.com wrote:
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Simon Pieters sim...@opera.com wrote:
From our testing it seems that Vista has a limit of 1398 open sockets.
Apparently Ubuntu has a limit of 1024 file descriptors per process.
On Linux,
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Perry Smith pedz...@gmail.com wrote:
Hosts have limits on open file descriptors but they are usually in the ten's
of thousands (per process) on today's OSs.
I have to admit, I'd be a little surprised (I think pleasantly, but
maybe not) if I could open ten
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 3:05 AM, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote:
=== Summary of Data ===
1) In all browsers tested, copying to an ImageData and then back to a canvas
(two blits) is faster than a 2x scale.
2) In all browsers tested, twice the cost of a canvas-to-canvas blit is
2010/3/11 Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) ife...@google.com:
I think apps will have to deal with hitting quota as you describe, however
with a normal desktop app you usually have a giant disk relative to what the
user actually needs. When we're talking about shipping something with a 5mb
or 50mb default
2010/3/11 Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) ife...@google.com:
AFAIK most browsers are setting a default quota for storage options that is
on the order of megabytes.
Could well be, indeed. It sounded like you'd done some thinking about
the size, and I was curious about how you came up with that number
2010/3/10 Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) ife...@google.com:
As I talk with more application developers (both within Google and at
large), one thing that consistently gets pointed out to me as a problem is
the notion of the opaqueness of storage quotas in all of the new storage
mechanisms (Local Storage,
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 6:20 AM, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote:
Reading or writing a property on a native object doesn't do it, so
window['x'].document.forms['y'].value = 'foo';
...doesn't release the mutex, though this (identical code) would:
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Rob Ennals rob.enn...@gmail.com wrote:
If you run your browser in super-warnings-enabled mode then you
could have it warn you if you did anything remotely suspect between
calls to localStorage (e.g. calling a function defined by an external
javascript file or
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Rob Ennals rob.enn...@gmail.com wrote:
How about this for a solution for the localStorage mutex problem:
the user agent MAY release the storage mutex on *any* API operation except
localStorage itself
This guarantees that the common case of several storage
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Rob Ennals rob.enn...@gmail.com wrote:
Or to put it another way: if the thread can't call an API then it can't
block waiting for another storage mutex, thus deadlock can't occur, thus we
don't need to release the storage mutex.
Right, but the spec text there
concerns with Database, but they are higher-level and
therefore likely less compelling to its advocates. :-) )
Mike
On 9/11/09, Aaron Boodman a...@google.com wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 6:45 AM, Mike Shaver mike.sha...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm especially concerned to hear you say that DB is basically
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Ian Hicksoni...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Mike Shaver wrote:
The multiple server-side processes that end up involved over the course
of the user's interaction do need to share state with each other, and
preserving blocking semantics for accessing
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 6:11 AM, Ian Hicksoni...@hixie.ch wrote:
We can't treat cookies and persistent storage differently, because
otherwise we'll expose users to cookie resurrection attacks. Maintaining
the user's expectations of privacy is critical.
By that reasoning we can't treat cookies
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Ian Hicksoni...@hixie.ch wrote:
Furthermore, consider performance going forward. CPUs have pretty much
gotten as fast as they're getting -- all further progress is going to be
in making multithreaded applications that use as many CPUs as possible. We
should
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Jeremy Orlowjor...@chromium.org wrote:
Can a plugin ever call into a script while a script is running besides when
the script is making a synchronous call to the plugin? If so, that worries
me since it'd be a way for the script to lose its lock at _any_ time.
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 9:44 PM, Ian Hicksoni...@hixie.ch wrote:
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009, Mike Shaver wrote:
It's also pretty common to enter multiple email addresses or tracking
numbers or URLs one-per-line for batch operations on sites, and they
would benefit from having client-side validation
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 10:36 PM, Jeremy Orlowjor...@chromium.org wrote:
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 10:28 PM, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.org
wrote:
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Jeremy Orlow jor...@chromium.org
wrote:
To me, getStorageUpdates seems to imply that updates have
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Linus Upsonli...@google.com wrote:
The
candidate delete list will be thousands long and hidden in that haystack
will be a few precious needles.
While that is certainly one of the outcomes, and I agree a bad one, I
am not sure that the user experience needs to
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Jonas Sickingjo...@sicking.cc wrote:
So for the pattern attribute, a use case would be on a site that
accepts US addresses (for example a store that only ships within the
US), the site could use a textarea together with a pattern that
matches US addresses.
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Jim Jewettjimjjew...@gmail.com wrote:
Currently, SharedWorkers accept both a url parameter and a name
parameter - the purpose is to let pages run multiple SharedWorkers using the
same script resource without having to load separate resources from the
server.
Can the historical-timeline community perhaps work with a microformat
for such things, so that we can standardize on the basis of experience
using the technology in the field, rather than on speculative uses?
Mike
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 5:10 AM, Keryx Webwebmas...@keryx.se wrote:
Mike, I know what you are doing at Mozilla, and have a ton of respect for
you. But I fail to see how you could misunderstand my analogy to JSLint. Or
do you suggest that Doug Crockford should drop manual semi-colon insertion
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 5:15 AM, Keryx Webwebmas...@keryx.se wrote:
My analogy was simply this: Just like it makes sense for a JavaScript lint
tool to enforce semi-colons, it makes sense for an HTML conformance checker
to enforce quotation marks.
A lint tool is not a conformance checker. Your
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 5:47 AM, Keryx Webwebmas...@keryx.se wrote:
I think my suggestion is totally analogous to e.g. semi-colon insertion in
ECMAScript. JSLint demands that those should be present, and I've yet to
hear anyone say it's a matter of style. Omitting semi-colons is a known
cause
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Ian Hicksoni...@hixie.ch wrote:
We've narrowed codecs down to two. The spec could say that UA which
supports video MUST implement at least one of Theora or H.264. All
vendors can comply with that, and that's better than not specifying any
codecs at all (e.g.
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Peter Kastingpkast...@google.com wrote:
It makes sense if you think about it -- whether YouTube sends videos encoded
as H.264 is irrelevant to what the _baseline_ codec for video needs to be,
it is only relevant as additional info for vendors deciding whether to
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 12:50 AM, Ian Hicksoni...@hixie.ch wrote:
Finally, what is Google/YouTube's official position on this?
As I understand it, based on other posts to this mailing list in recent
days: Google ships both H.264 and Theora support in Chrome; YouTube only
supports H.264, and
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Gregory Maxwellgmaxw...@gmail.com wrote:
No one has bothered
porting Theora to the TMS320c64x DSP embedded in the OMAP3 CPU used in
this handheld device is an obviously surmountable problem.
Unless I'm mistaken about the DSP in question, that work is in fact
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Chris DiBonacdib...@gmail.com wrote:
Comparing Daily Motion to Youtube is disingenuous.
Much less so than comparing promotion of H.264-in-video via
Google's sites and client to support for legacy proprietary content
via plugin APIs, I would say. But also, I
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Chris DiBonacdib...@gmail.com wrote:
I tried funding dirac a while back, to some good end, and we provide
students, but here's the challenge: Can theora move forward without
infringing on the other video compression patents?
We certainly believe so, but I'm
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Chris DiBonacdib...@gmail.com wrote:
No, but it is what I worry about. How agressive will mpeg.la be in
their interpretation of the direction that theora is going? I don't
think that is a reason to stop the current development direction (or
the funding of it)
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Chris DiBonacdib...@gmail.com wrote:
actually shipping with Theora (also on android, too)
I was looking for a reference to this, but haven't found anything yet.
http://developer.android.com/guide/appendix/media-formats.html lists
Vorbis, but not Theora, and I
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Chris DiBonacdib...@gmail.com wrote:
Let me ask David Sparks and see where it went, I remember we had it in
the inital drops, or thought we did.
That'd be great -- all I can find reference to is Vorbis, as used for
the ringtones and system sounds (righteous!)
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Chris DiBonacdib...@gmail.com wrote:
It'll take a little while, I'm travelling a bit this month (brazil ,
new york, etc..)
Yep, I'll reach out to the o3d guys directly as well, see if they have
the source video for that clip. More than happy to do the
Apologies for the poor threading, I wasn't subscribed when the message
here was sent.
In http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2009-June/020237.html
Chris DiBona wrote:
The incredibly sucky outcome is that Chrome ships patent-encumbered
open web features, just like Apple. That
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