Re: [whatwg] summary/details - proposal

2014-04-10 Thread Steve Faulkner
On 8 April 2014 21:54, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote: I still don't understand. Do you think that what Hixie is saying (about clicking on non-interactive text in summary toggling the details) is wrong? nope. The behavior that Hixie describes is roughly what implementations

Re: [whatwg] summary/details - proposal

2014-04-08 Thread Steve Faulkner
On 7 April 2014 20:06, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: Should there be a particular need for an accessible name for the details control, ARIA can be used to set the name. But I must admit to not understanding why you would need that in practice, if the page is well written. (I find most

Re: [whatwg] summary/details - proposal

2014-04-08 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 5:25 AM, Steve Faulkner faulkner.st...@gmail.com wrote: avoiding unnecessary recourse to web component use is a reasonable and expected goal - built in vs bolt on accessibility is better. Having to use a web component to overcome the inability to make a html control

Re: [whatwg] summary/details - proposal

2014-04-07 Thread Steve Faulkner
-- Regards SteveF HTML 5.1 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/ On 6 April 2014 05:11, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Sat, 5 Apr 2014, Steve Faulkner wrote: The summary itself is not interactive, so only the triangle provides the actionable control. The spec doesn't

Re: [whatwg] summary/details - proposal

2014-04-07 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sun, 6 Apr 2014, Steve Faulkner wrote: On 6 April 2014 05:11, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Sat, 5 Apr 2014, Steve Faulkner wrote: The summary itself is not interactive, so only the triangle provides the actionable control. The spec doesn't disallow making clicks on

Re: [whatwg] summary/details - proposal

2014-04-07 Thread Steve Faulkner
-- Regards SteveF HTML 5.1 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/ On 6 April 2014 21:08, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Sun, 6 Apr 2014, Steve Faulkner wrote: On 6 April 2014 05:11, Ian Hickson i...@hixie.ch wrote: On Sat, 5 Apr 2014, Steve Faulkner wrote: The

Re: [whatwg] summary/details - proposal

2014-04-07 Thread Ian Hickson
On Mon, 7 Apr 2014, Steve Faulkner wrote: All that should be necessary is: details summary Foo /summary ... /details Adding two attributes and an elements is thus more complicated than necessary. This seems pretty unambiguous to me. for the case details summary

Re: [whatwg] summary/details - proposal

2014-04-05 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sat, 5 Apr 2014, Steve Faulkner wrote: The summary itself is not interactive, so only the triangle provides the actionable control. The spec doesn't disallow making clicks on (non-interactive) parts of the summary defer to the disclosure triangle. Browsers should just match platform