[Wien] Formula full-potential

2015-12-29 Thread Tuan Vu
Dear Pro. F. Tran

Reason do i need details of the potential:

Time is coming for me to protect my PhD dissertation as part of the
University-supported project.
One of the key question that I will answer before the dissertation council
is that how formula 2.10 in the userguide's.pdf is formed.
The council includes professors from many universities and academies in
Russia, so I can't avoid that questions because the reliability
of the calculation package depends on the full-potential, and so does my
work. With all of my respect, I hope that you can help me
with this question about the full-potential.

Rest regards
PhD. Student Tuan Vu
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Re: [Wien] Formula full-potential

2015-12-29 Thread Laurence Marks
Careful, what you said is not completely right, there is a basis although
it is more complete than a limited set of Gaussian functions.

The angular part (potential, wave function etc) is a truncated spherical
harmonic expansion. The radial part of the wavefunction in the spheres is a
rather complex expansion - best to read carefully the user guide & lectures
for exactly what Lapw, APW+lo are.

---
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Department of Materials Science and Engineering
Northwestern University
http://www.numis.northwestern.edu
Corrosion in 4D http://MURI4D.numis.northwestern.edu
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"Research is to see what everybody else has seen, and to think what nobody
else has thought"
Albert Szent-Gyorgi
On Dec 29, 2015 21:49, "delamora" <delam...@unam.mx> wrote:

> The point about the full potential is that the radial part inside the
> sphere is numerical, you have a net of points going from r=0 to Rmt, so no
> basis is needed as in the Gaussian program where the radial part is formed
> by gaussian functions.
>
>
> --
>
> Tuan,
>
> What that equation means is that you have a full basis for your
> potentials, functions, etc.
>
> The plane waves outside muffin tin sphere is ok in a region where
> the potential does not vary too much, but it is hopeless near the atomic
> nuclei where the potential varies as 1/r, near a nucleus the atomic like
> functions work well with this kind of potential, so the problem is to match
> both functions both in value and in slope at the muffin tin sphere.
>
> It is like the step function where you have two plane waves with
> different frequency and you have to match them at the step.
>
>
> Saludos
>
>
> Pablo
>
>
> --
> *De:* wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at <
> wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at> en nombre de Tuan Vu <
> kesitinhkhongdu...@gmail.com>
> *Enviado:* martes, 29 de diciembre de 2015 09:22 p. m.
> *Para:* Wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at
> *Asunto:* [Wien] Formula full-potential
>
> Dear Pro. F. Tran
>
> Reason do i need details of the potential:
>
> Time is coming for me to protect my PhD dissertation as part of the
> University-supported project.
> One of the key question that I will answer before the dissertation council
> is that how formula 2.10 in the userguide's.pdf is formed.
> The council includes professors from many universities and academies in
> Russia, so I can't avoid that questions because the reliability
> of the calculation package depends on the full-potential, and so does my
> work. With all of my respect, I hope that you can help me
> with this question about the full-potential.
>
> Rest regards
> PhD. Student Tuan Vu
>
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Re: [Wien] Formula full-potential

2015-12-29 Thread delamora
The point about the full potential is that the radial part inside the sphere is 
numerical, you have a net of points going from r=0 to Rmt, so no basis is 
needed as in the Gaussian program where the radial part is formed by gaussian 
functions.




Tuan,

What that equation means is that you have a full basis for your 
potentials, functions, etc.

The plane waves outside muffin tin sphere is ok in a region where the 
potential does not vary too much, but it is hopeless near the atomic nuclei 
where the potential varies as 1/r, near a nucleus the atomic like functions 
work well with this kind of potential, so the problem is to match both 
functions both in value and in slope at the muffin tin sphere.

It is like the step function where you have two plane waves with 
different frequency and you have to match them at the step.


Saludos


Pablo



De: wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at 
<wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at> en nombre de Tuan Vu 
<kesitinhkhongdu...@gmail.com>
Enviado: martes, 29 de diciembre de 2015 09:22 p. m.
Para: Wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at
Asunto: [Wien] Formula full-potential

Dear Pro. F. Tran


Reason do i need details of the potential:

Time is coming for me to protect my PhD dissertation as part of the 
University-supported project.
One of the key question that I will answer before the dissertation council is 
that how formula 2.10 in the userguide's.pdf is formed.
The council includes professors from many universities and academies in Russia, 
so I can't avoid that questions because the reliability
of the calculation package depends on the full-potential, and so does my work. 
With all of my respect, I hope that you can help me
with this question about the full-potential.

Rest regards
PhD. Student Tuan Vu
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Re: [Wien] Formula full-potential

2015-12-29 Thread delamora
Tuan,

What that equation means is that you have a full basis for your 
potentials, functions, etc.

The plane waves outside muffin tin sphere is ok in a region where the 
potential does not vary too much, but it is hopeless near the atomic nuclei 
where the potential varies as 1/r, near a nucleus the atomic like functions 
work well with this kind of potential, so the problem is to match both 
functions both in value and in slope at the muffin tin sphere.

It is like the step function where you have two plane waves with 
different frequency and you have to match them at the step.


Saludos


Pablo



De: wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at 
<wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at> en nombre de Tuan Vu 
<kesitinhkhongdu...@gmail.com>
Enviado: martes, 29 de diciembre de 2015 09:22 p. m.
Para: Wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at
Asunto: [Wien] Formula full-potential

Dear Pro. F. Tran


Reason do i need details of the potential:

Time is coming for me to protect my PhD dissertation as part of the 
University-supported project.
One of the key question that I will answer before the dissertation council is 
that how formula 2.10 in the userguide's.pdf is formed.
The council includes professors from many universities and academies in Russia, 
so I can't avoid that questions because the reliability
of the calculation package depends on the full-potential, and so does my work. 
With all of my respect, I hope that you can help me
with this question about the full-potential.

Rest regards
PhD. Student Tuan Vu
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Re: [Wien] Formula full-potential

2015-12-22 Thread tran

Hi,

I was wrong, since there is no detail on the construction of the potential
in Dufek's thesis. To my knowledge, there is unfortunately no document
where the construction of the potential is explained in great details
specifically for WIEN2k. This is not trivial and made more complicated by
the use of cubic harmonics for cubic symmetry. Also, in the interstitial
there is the concept of stars which is used for the Fourier coefficients.

A few more links to documents which may be helpful depending on what you
want to know in particular:

http://scitation.aip.org/content/aip/journal/jmp/22/11/10.1063/1.524800
http://journals.aps.org/prb/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevB.26.4571

Actually, for which reason do you need details of the potential?

F. Tran

On Mon, 14 Dec 2015, Tuan Vu wrote:



Dear Prof. F. Tran


The links on the site, we did not find detailed information on the construction 
and use of the full-potential in the
code WIEN2k. As you can see the thesis P. Dufek, you mentioned?

We will be very grateful, if you send us this thesis, even in hard copy at:

Russian Federation, Rostov-on-Dou, pl. Gagarin 1, Don State University, the 
department of "Electrical and
Electronics".

 

Kind Regards

Doctor of physical and mathematical sciences, Prof. Lavrentyev A.A. and PhD 
Student Tuan Vu


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[Wien] Formula full-potential

2015-12-14 Thread Tuan Vu
Dear Prof. F. Tran


The links on the site, we did not find detailed information on the
construction and use of the full-potential in the code WIEN2k. As you can
see the thesis P. Dufek, you mentioned?

We will be very grateful, if you send us this thesis, even in hard copy at:

Russian Federation, Rostov-on-Dou, pl. Gagarin 1, Don State University, the
department of "Electrical and Electronics".



Kind Regards

Doctor of physical and mathematical sciences, Prof. Lavrentyev A.A. and PhD
Student Tuan Vu
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Re: [Wien] Formula full-potential

2015-12-09 Thread tran

A few details here:

http://www.springer.com/us/book/9780387287805
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.155.1413=rep1=pdf
http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/0953-8984/26/36/363202/pdf

The document which contains the largest amount details is probably the
thesis from P. Dufek that we have only as a hard copy (no PDF).

F. Tran

On Wed, 9 Dec 2015, Tuan Vu wrote:



Dear All

 

I just read paper “Computation of Materials Properties at the Atomic Scale // 
Karlheinz Schwarz 2015” (4.2. The choice of the potential) and User's Guide 
(2.2.3
General considerations, formula 2.10), In its general form the LAPW (APW+lo) 
method expands the potential in the following form V(r) - inside sphere and 
outside
sphere.

Can you tell me where can I find more detailed formula for building potential 
used in the code WIEN2k? As an example, this is done in optics article “Linear 
optical
properties of solids within the full-potential linearized augmented planewave 
method // Claudia Ambrosch-Draxl , Jorge O. Sofo // Computer Physics 
Communications 175
(2006) 1–14.”


Kind Regards

Tuan Vu

PhD Student

Rostov-On-Don, Russia.


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[Wien] Formula full-potential

2015-12-08 Thread Tuan Vu
Dear All



I just read paper “Computation of Materials Properties at the Atomic Scale
// Karlheinz Schwarz 2015” (4.2. The choice of the potential) and User's
Guide (2.2.3 General considerations, formula 2.10), In its general form the
LAPW (APW+lo) method expands the potential in the following form V(r) -
inside sphere and outside sphere.

Can you tell me where can I find more detailed formula for building
potential used in the code WIEN2k? As an example, this is done in optics
article “Linear optical properties of solids within the full-potential
linearized augmented planewave method // Claudia Ambrosch-Draxl , Jorge O.
Sofo // Computer Physics Communications 175 (2006) 1–14.”


Kind Regards

Tuan Vu

PhD Student

Rostov-On-Don, Russia.
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