Re: [Wiki-research-l] Women on Wikidata

2014-04-21 Thread Jane Darnell
Gerard, Actually historically speaking, there will be fewer Harvard alumni as women because they graduated from Radcliffe, not Harvard, no? Anyway, how about a trade - I will send you all of my male-female data with Wikipedia entity names, and you send me back the Q numbers? Or can you only

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Women on Wikidata

2014-04-21 Thread Jane Darnell
Stuart, we also know that there were women in the arts working in the Renaissance and I wonder how many Master of name artists were women. In fact, I once spent a long time trying to see if there was any evidence that Geertgen tot Sint Jans was a man, because certain aspects of his life seem quite

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Women on Wikidata

2014-04-21 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, There are only 264 people identified as Radcliffe alumni. Someone did a job on adding this fact to Wikidata so I started off with some 250 already. I completed the list. The category information on Wikidata includes a query that shows you the current number.. There is a similar query on the

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Women on Wikidata

2014-04-21 Thread Magnus Manske
I don't work for the Foundation. This is my opinion, and I do not require any lawyers to sign off on it. What a sad world that would be. On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 2:06 AM, Stuart A. Yeates syea...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 7:10 AM, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote:

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Women on Wikidata

2014-04-20 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The problem that I want to solve is that the number of humans that are neither male nor female is currently 419.862 and growing. I am not particularly interested in other sex/gender issues. I know from a conversation with DBpedia people that they have a property for penis length.. Not

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Women on Wikidata

2014-04-20 Thread Stuart A. Yeates
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: To be blunt, Wikidata gains the quantitative quality I am looking for when only male and female is added where applicable. Transgender issues with respect are edge cases. Transgender issues are primarily raised

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Women on Wikidata

2014-04-20 Thread Stuart A. Yeates
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 7:10 AM, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: The success of Wikidata is tightly coupled to the re-use of its wealth of data, both in Wikimedia projects and by third parties. Completeness of data is very much a factor here; for some research purposes,

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Women on Wikidata

2014-04-20 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I blogged about the issue of sex ratios on Wikidata [1]. The experiment I did with Harvard alumni was to get some idea about the number of humans who were not yet known as human. I added a substantial number of them to have an item for each entry in the category on the English Wikipedia. I

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Women on Wikidata

2014-04-19 Thread Stuart A. Yeates
I have huge issues with using wikidata in this fashion. The blp and gender guidelines on wiki.en have evolved over a very long time for some very good rreasons. I invite you to explain for example how culturally appropriate your approach is for non western cultures with more than two genders. Or

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Women on Wikidata

2014-04-19 Thread Stuart A. Yeates
On 20/04/2014 11:05 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: What I do know is that at Wikidata we harvest information from all Wikipedias. It does include en,wp but it is not exclusively so. It does include the Russian, the Chinese, the Arabic ... all Wikipedias. As you know, the

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Women on Wikidata

2014-04-19 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Again, what is done is harvest from everywhere. Such actionar are not exclusive to Wikidata, it is also done by DBpedia, they have been longer at it and at this time they are better at it. What I hope is that there is quality data in the research done in the past. Making this available will

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Women on Wikidata

2014-04-19 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 6:14 AM, Stuart A. Yeates syea...@gmail.com wrote: On 20/04/2014 11:05 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: What I do know is that at Wikidata we harvest information from all Wikipedias. It does include en,wp but it is not exclusively so. It does

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Women on Wikidata

2014-04-19 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, Again, what is done is harvest from everywhere. Such actionar are not exclusive to Wikidata, it is also done by DBpedia, they have been longer at it and at this time they are better at it. What I hope is