Re: [Wiki-research-l] Elicit New Editor Interest

2018-06-11 Thread Pine W
Hi Leila,
Thanks for the explanation.
Further down the road, I hope that we can help newbies with onboarding by 
improving the ease of use of talk pages, and by automatically presenting them 
with more helpful resources (like links to the ENWP Teahouse or its equivalents 
on other wikis), and welcoming and explanatory videos.
Good luck with the project.
Pine
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 Original message From: Leila Zia  Date: 
6/11/18  8:37 PM  (GMT-08:00) To: Research into Wikimedia content and 
communities  Subject: Re: 
[Wiki-research-l] Elicit New Editor Interest 
Hi Pine,

On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 8:32 PM Pine W  wrote:
>
> Hi Leila,
>
> This looks interesting. I have a few questions.
>
> 1. Why are users being asked for their email addresses? This creates
> privacy concerns regarding the handling of PII. I think that using
> usernames would be preferable.

As you can imagine, we deliberated on this for quite some time. The
issue is that on-wiki discussions are not easy for newcomers and we
don't want the complexity of figuring out how to communicate on wiki
get on the way of assessing the performance of the model. The users
will need to make a conscious choice for sharing their emails though,
and there will be a privacy statement associated with this experiment.

> 2. I'm unclear on whether the plan is to invite newbies to contact veterans
> who may have edited similar pages.

No, the plan is to pair newcomers with each other.

I hope this helps.

Best,
Leila

> Pine
> ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
>
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 10:33 AM, Leila Zia  wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > We just added a new formal collaboration with Ramtin Yazdanian from
> > EPFL to develop, design and test models that can help us learn about
> > New Editor Interests. While the applications of these models are
> > numerous, we expect to use them at least in the line of research in
> > addressing Wikipedia contributor diversity gaps.
> >
> > This research is aimed to address the cold start problem in Wikimedia
> > projects, when a user enters the system and you have almost no
> > information about the user and yet you want to engage with the user in
> > the areas they're interested in. Please see project details at
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Voice_and_exit_
> > in_a_voluntary_work_environment/Elicit_new_editor_interests
> >
> > Best,
> > Leila
> >
> > --
> > Leila Zia
> > Senior Research Scientist, Lead
> > Wikimedia Foundation
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] Elicit New Editor Interest

2018-06-11 Thread Leila Zia
Hi Pine,

On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 8:32 PM Pine W  wrote:
>
> Hi Leila,
>
> This looks interesting. I have a few questions.
>
> 1. Why are users being asked for their email addresses? This creates
> privacy concerns regarding the handling of PII. I think that using
> usernames would be preferable.

As you can imagine, we deliberated on this for quite some time. The
issue is that on-wiki discussions are not easy for newcomers and we
don't want the complexity of figuring out how to communicate on wiki
get on the way of assessing the performance of the model. The users
will need to make a conscious choice for sharing their emails though,
and there will be a privacy statement associated with this experiment.

> 2. I'm unclear on whether the plan is to invite newbies to contact veterans
> who may have edited similar pages.

No, the plan is to pair newcomers with each other.

I hope this helps.

Best,
Leila

> Pine
> ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
>
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 10:33 AM, Leila Zia  wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > We just added a new formal collaboration with Ramtin Yazdanian from
> > EPFL to develop, design and test models that can help us learn about
> > New Editor Interests. While the applications of these models are
> > numerous, we expect to use them at least in the line of research in
> > addressing Wikipedia contributor diversity gaps.
> >
> > This research is aimed to address the cold start problem in Wikimedia
> > projects, when a user enters the system and you have almost no
> > information about the user and yet you want to engage with the user in
> > the areas they're interested in. Please see project details at
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Voice_and_exit_
> > in_a_voluntary_work_environment/Elicit_new_editor_interests
> >
> > Best,
> > Leila
> >
> > --
> > Leila Zia
> > Senior Research Scientist, Lead
> > Wikimedia Foundation
> >
> > ___
> > Wiki-research-l mailing list
> > Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
> >
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] Elicit New Editor Interest

2018-06-11 Thread Pine W
Hi Leila,

This looks interesting. I have a few questions.

1. Why are users being asked for their email addresses? This creates
privacy concerns regarding the handling of PII. I think that using
usernames would be preferable.

2. I'm unclear on whether the plan is to invite newbies to contact veterans
who may have edited similar pages. If that is the plan, I would strongly
encourage you to solicit veterans to sign up to opt in to this experiment.
Some veterans may be more willing than others to help newbies. Many veteran
editors have plenty of work on their agendas and I'm not sure that asking
them to take on yet more work is something that's a good idea. If they opt
in to the experiment, like mentors, then I think that would be okay within
the scope of this experiment, although I would be very cautious about
rolling that out on a large scale to thousands of veterans whose time is
very precious.

Thanks,

Pine
( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )

On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 10:33 AM, Leila Zia  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> We just added a new formal collaboration with Ramtin Yazdanian from
> EPFL to develop, design and test models that can help us learn about
> New Editor Interests. While the applications of these models are
> numerous, we expect to use them at least in the line of research in
> addressing Wikipedia contributor diversity gaps.
>
> This research is aimed to address the cold start problem in Wikimedia
> projects, when a user enters the system and you have almost no
> information about the user and yet you want to engage with the user in
> the areas they're interested in. Please see project details at
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Voice_and_exit_
> in_a_voluntary_work_environment/Elicit_new_editor_interests
>
> Best,
> Leila
>
> --
> Leila Zia
> Senior Research Scientist, Lead
> Wikimedia Foundation
>
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[Wiki-research-l] Elicit New Editor Interest

2018-06-11 Thread Leila Zia
Hi all,

We just added a new formal collaboration with Ramtin Yazdanian from
EPFL to develop, design and test models that can help us learn about
New Editor Interests. While the applications of these models are
numerous, we expect to use them at least in the line of research in
addressing Wikipedia contributor diversity gaps.

This research is aimed to address the cold start problem in Wikimedia
projects, when a user enters the system and you have almost no
information about the user and yet you want to engage with the user in
the areas they're interested in. Please see project details at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Voice_and_exit_in_a_voluntary_work_environment/Elicit_new_editor_interests

Best,
Leila

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Senior Research Scientist, Lead
Wikimedia Foundation

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