[Bug 26716] use external editor preference causes problems when people who don't know what they're doing play with it
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26716 --- Comment #7 from jason brown edit...@journalismcrisis.org 2011-01-16 10:20:37 UTC --- (In reply to comment #6) Yes, a link to http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:External_editors from the default [[mediawiki:tog-externaleditor]] and [[mediawiki:tog-externaldiff]] should be added at a minimum (if they are kept). Excelllent. Maybe that's the first option and the other options can be phased in at a less urgent pace, if Wikipedia ever runs out of priorities , ) Great work. Is there another list these ideas need to be proposed to, or does it just flow from here? ... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 26716] use external editor preference causes problems when people who don't know what they're doing play with it
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26716 --- Comment #5 from jason brown edit...@journalismcrisis.org 2011-01-16 00:04:58 UTC --- (In reply to comment #4) Be good to get some stats on how widely used it is. Absolutely. Exactly what I was suggesting to Prodego. No idea how such stats might be collected but I guess that's why I am not a techy! Alternatively to removal, a how-to or what's this link to explain it's use, as you raised above. Tech-challenged idiots like me won't get it but maybe others more capable might make greater use of it. My wonder: Is anyone running a wikipedia help site with screen grabs etc? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 26716] use external editor preference causes problems when people who don't know what they're doing play with it
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26716 --- Comment #6 from Bawolff bawolff...@gmail.com 2011-01-16 04:02:27 UTC --- Yes, a link to http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:External_editors from the default [[mediawiki:tog-externaleditor]] and [[mediawiki:tog-externaldiff]] should be added at a minimum (if they are kept). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 26716] use external editor preference causes problems when people who don't know what they're doing play with it
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26716 --- Comment #4 from Bawolff bawolff...@gmail.com 2011-01-14 22:52:54 UTC --- I wonder how often people (correctly) use that preference. I believe that the majority of people who use external editors, use it for images. I wonder if people who use it for articles, generally use the url parameter method. If people generally use the url method, we might consider removing the preference altogether. Be good to get some stats on how widely used it is. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 26716] use external editor preference causes problems when people who don't know what they're doing play with it
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26716 Bawolff bawolff...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||bawolff...@gmail.com Component|Site requests |General/Unknown Product|Wikimedia |MediaWiki Summary|my preferences + |use external editor |editing | some options|preference causes problems |unclear ... and unneeded? |when people who don't know ||what they're doing play ||with it --- Comment #2 from Bawolff bawolff...@gmail.com 2011-01-14 03:29:31 UTC --- Well it does say for experts only. Basically what it does is you download a file, and you're supposed to have a program on your computer that takes that file and helps you edit it. For more info about what the option does, see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:External_editors We could potentially add a comment in the file explaining what the deal with it is, and how to stop it from happening. (the downloaded file is an ini file, i think that format supports comments of some sort) Do you have some sort of text that would be clearer for the option text is special:preferences. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 26716] use external editor preference causes problems when people who don't know what they're doing play with it
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26716 --- Comment #3 from jason brown edit...@journalismcrisis.org 2011-01-14 04:18:04 UTC --- Thanks very much for the quick response. Answers following your points, in quotes, as follows. Well it does say for experts only. Basically what it does is you download a file, and you're supposed to have a program on your computer that takes that file and helps you edit it. Yup. But the experts bit gets a bit lost among the 21 or so other options on the page - and that's just for editing ! For more info about what the option does, see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:External_editors; Cool. Just read this bit - This is accomplished using a very simple system - cue crazed non-techy laughter. We could potentially add a comment in the file explaining what the deal with it is, and how to stop it from happening. (the downloaded file is an ini file, i think that format supports comments of some sort) Just tried to open one of the said PHP files but got a Windows cannot open this file: error box. Maybe INI files are linked on computers owned by people with IT skills, but not most IITs - Idiot Information Technologists - like me. Short story: people can't read INI notes if their computer is not set to open it. Do you have some sort of text that would be clearer for the option text is special:preferences. Yup, and your responses helped me figure out some ideas. I was just about to suggest an advanced options tab when I checked and there already is one! Okay, as a format layout guy, I would suggest making the words advanced options - currently in light grey - much bolder, bigger and in the colour RED. Too easy to miss as it is, especially when there are literally dozens of other options to go through. Even better, would be, eventually, a similar arrangement as the new text input box with an advanced link. So that idiots, like me, never get tempted to even look at such things, or at least have to make a conscious decision to access advanced features. For now, though, red lettering might cut back on the number of people clicking things they shouldn't. Again, thank you, Bawolff and hope this feedback is not a total pain. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
